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factory
8th July 2014, 12:31 PM
Hi all, 
First time post but so far I am finding this a really interesting forum. Hoping you can help me out with my purchase. 
I am currently looking at getting a D4 and am deciding which model to buy. I think I really like the SDV6 SE the best but here in WA they do not import them as stock cars, only TDV6 and HSE. I cannot wait for an ordered vehicle so choice comes down to TDV6 optioned with 7 seats leather, Hi ICE, Xenon, Park Sensors and RVC vs HSE.
Obviously the HSE is nice as in addition you get ‘leccy seats, Nav, wood grain etc and the full fat 600Nm engine.
Thinking don’t really need the nav or memory seats but would like the engine. Decisions, decisions…. 
Has anyone driven the newer TDv6 engine and 8 speed vs the SD and 8 speed? Lots of comapros on the old 2.7 but not so many with the new engine in the TDv6, Keen to know how these compare in real world. I won’t be doing any regular heavy towing or off-roading. 
PS: have done a search but all the TD vs SD threads seem to be on the old 2.7
Cheers
TerryO
8th July 2014, 12:36 PM
For what's its worth in my humble opinion, an HSE is very good value compared to a specked up base model, even more so when comparing the SE to an HSE. Plus while you can always haggle the price of any Disco down, from my observations ver time you can usually haggle a HSE down even further than a base model D4.
nat_89
8th July 2014, 01:19 PM
I've got a new HSE D4 8spd sadly I just test drove the HSE and that's all so I don't really know between the SD and the TD, but yes I'll agree the HSE is a awesome model and if you bargain hard you can get a great deal almost the same as an SE with a few options. In the end I can guarantee you'll be over the moon with any D4 model you get haha they are an awesome car can not beat them!!
factory
8th July 2014, 01:53 PM
Thanks for replies guys, agree once you tick a few option boxes on the SE you may as well go HSE.
Another question...how important is the e-diff? I'm not really that into off-roading but would like to be able to do some beach driving, maybe some Vic high country (in summer!) stuff like Wonangatta, Dargo etc. Assume the standard vehicle will be more than capable? Reason being I will need to order and wait for an e-diff vehicle and really need one sooner than that.
thanks
TerryO
8th July 2014, 02:05 PM
An e-diff is not a must have option for off roading even in most of the harshest terrains that the majority of punters like to occassioally play in, so I wouldn't stress about that. 
However they are a relatively cheap and very good option that does enhance any model Disco off road if you really like to do the hard stuff (which most people never will) and as well as that they are a very good selling point when it comes time to move your Disco on into the second hand market where your more likely to find a potential buyer wanting to build up a late model Disco for serious off road usage.
letherm
8th July 2014, 02:09 PM
Thanks for replies guys, agree once you tick a few option boxes on the SE you may as well go HSE.
Another question...how important is the e-diff? I'm not really that into off-roading but would like to be able to do some beach driving, maybe some Vic high country (in summer!) stuff like Wonangatta, Dargo etc. Assume the standard vehicle will be more than capable? Reason being I will need to order and wait for an e-diff vehicle and really need one sooner than that.
thanks
I agree with the previous comments about the HSE being a good choice if you're going to option up an SE.  I was in the same position - wanted a few extras on an SE.  By the time they were added an HSE became an obvious choice instead and it came with a few "nice to have" extras.  I also got a good deal and ended up paying way less than I thought I would for the HSE.  Bought mine November last year during a factory offer period - cash off.
As for the E Diff.  Would  I have liked to have it fitted, obviously, as it's good value.  Did I really need it, no,  because I know I won't be doing heavy 4WD trips.  So it became a nice to have rather than a must have.  From what I've read and heard the latest D4's are very good without the E Diff compared to earlier ones that really needed an E Diff if you wanted to do other than everyday 4WDriving.  I also was able to buy one straight away without the long wait.  It was transferred from Victoria to Sydney where I live.  Even that took a couple of weeks as they wait for a full load before transport.
nat_89
8th July 2014, 04:10 PM
It does seem about right if you bargain hard you can get a HSE for around the $93k mark so I'm sure thats about the same as an SE with a few options plus you get a few nice extras you cant get in the SE such as memory settings and the interior lights in all the door handles and a few others.
I was chasing a car with an ediff for resale and the reasons stated most people buying second hand really want the ediff, but they are that awesome off road that they are not needed unless its severe, but if i remember correctly they come with a bigger stronger diff not that anyone has had any problems with the normal one. I didn't want to wait to order one either just found one that had it luckily!!
Plane Fixer
8th July 2014, 05:28 PM
I was so lucky that I walked into the showroom and the SE sitting there ticked every box for me so I bought it on the spot. Now after 2 1/2 years and 74000km I am still overjoyed with it.
It is a matter of being persistent or lucky that one has your name on it.
captcam68
8th July 2014, 07:30 PM
Had a 2009 TDV6 2.7 did Cape York and Tassie and every where in between, awesome car! Traded last year on a 2013 8 speed TDV6 fitted with E diff, awesome car just got even better! For around $1100 they are the best option you can fit if you intend to do lots of off-road. I climb up wet muddy slopes that much easier and proved it on a few club days. HSE fitted with Ediff, dosnt get any better!
go-disco4
8th July 2014, 08:05 PM
Hi
E-Diff would be definitely be good to have, but a non e-diff car will get you everywhere from my experience.
I have a 2.7 L TDV6 without E-diff and been everywhere in the Vic High country, Flinders and Simpson Desert without too much difficulty
And have easily kept up with dual locked cars
regards
GD-4
gazcoonar
9th July 2014, 06:04 AM
I thought the HSE SDv6 comes standard with the E-diff. I bought mine, and they had it listed as standard.
letherm
9th July 2014, 09:39 AM
I thought the HSE SDv6 comes standard with the E-diff. I bought mine, and they had it listed as standard.
Luck of the draw I think.  Mine doesn't have it and it's an HSE SDV6.
nat_89
9th July 2014, 10:19 AM
Luck of the draw I think.  Mine doesn't have it and it's an HSE SDV6.
I don't think the HSE is standard on any i think its an option on all models maybe the HSE V8 came with it, but yeah not the diesels i don't think. Might be getting confused with the centre diff lock?
letherm
9th July 2014, 01:40 PM
I don't think the HSE is standard on any i think its an option on all models maybe the HSE V8 came with it, but yeah not the diesels i don't think. Might be getting confused with the centre diff lock?
No, it's definitely not standard.  By luck of the draw I meant if you took one off the showroom floor or second hand that happened to have an E-diff rather than ordering one from the UK in which case you would have to specify it.
nat_89
9th July 2014, 04:00 PM
No, it's definitely not standard.  By luck of the draw I meant if you took one off the showroom floor or second hand that happened to have an E-diff rather than ordering one from the UK in which case you would have to specify it.
Oh haha my mistake yeah i guess its always a bonus if you got it and didn't expect it :D
letherm
9th July 2014, 04:51 PM
I only wish I had been luckier:p  Shouldn't complain too much though, the car I agreed to buy was in QLD but it was sold out from under my dealer.  I rang back the next morning to confirm the contract and they said they would source another.  End of that day I got a phone call and the new one from VIC had digital radio - their cost not mine at their suggestion.  Most impressed with the dealer.  Definitely would have preferred the E-diff though :D
nat_89
9th July 2014, 05:11 PM
Definitely i got an edit haven't really used it that much off road yet one day ill do it just haven't got around to it plus i got the elec steering column which isn't all that great but for the discounted price was happy either way haha plus i just love it either way there an awesome car!
gazcoonar
10th July 2014, 04:28 PM
Check out the features on this one. Under Transmission and drivetrain.  http://www.carsales.com.au/demo/details/Land-Rover-Discovery-4-2014/AGC-AD-16059050
Mine was similar spec. The car was bought by the dealer to set up as a demo car, but I saw it and they sold it to me before it could be made a demo. 
I assumed mine had it as it was listed in the same manner under features.
gazcoonar
10th July 2014, 04:30 PM
How can I check if mine actually has it or not?
nat_89
10th July 2014, 04:38 PM
How can I check if mine actually has it or not?
If you have the HSE with the screen just go to the 4x4i screen and it will show a centre lock and it will show you have a rear one if you have one.
gazcoonar
10th July 2014, 08:38 PM
Cheers nat-89. Will check and confirm tomorrow.
Goaroving
10th July 2014, 09:39 PM
The screen will show the rear diff even if you don't have an e-diff! I know cause mine doesn't have one but it's there. - mad
nat_89
11th July 2014, 06:50 AM
The screen will show the rear diff even if you don't have an e-diff! I know cause mine doesn't have one but it's there. - mad
Hmm righto well from what i understood it shows 2 locks one in the centre and one in the rear if you have one, i could be wrong but thats what i understood.
tiddy
11th July 2014, 01:44 PM
How can I check if mine actually has it or not?
Go to topix, enter your VIN, it will tell you exactly what is or isn't fitted to the vehicle.
You may have to register first.
tiddy
gghaggis
11th July 2014, 02:06 PM
Hmm righto well from what i understood it shows 2 locks one in the centre and one in the rear if you have one, i could be wrong but thats what i understood.
There are two padlock symbols regardless of whether the rear diff is an eLocker or not. If the symbol changes colour (from green to red) when off-road, then you know you have the rear eLocker.
Cheers,
Gordon
nat_89
11th July 2014, 04:01 PM
There are two padlock symbols regardless of whether the rear diff is an eLocker or not. If the symbol changes colour (from green to red) when off-road, then you know you have the rear eLocker.
Cheers,
Gordon
Ahh righto no worries cheers wasn't sure.
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