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crusty62
9th July 2014, 08:16 PM
G'day all. I was wondering if it wa possible build your own 101in Austraia. I've read abouta few projects around the world. Thought it might be something I'd liketo try.
Homestar
9th July 2014, 08:35 PM
Hmm, good question. I've moved your post to a new thread so the discussion can run freely.:)
Sitec
9th July 2014, 09:22 PM
I think the time spent accumulating all the parts, building it and then going thru the rigmarole of deciding its I.D, and then the pits etc etc would outweigh buying one locally and doing a full resto. Choose wisely and you'd have a complete vehicle with local rego and everything to do a ground up resto! Can't wait to see Stuee's when done!! That's a good thread to follow if you want an idea of what's involved! :)
Homestar
9th July 2014, 09:43 PM
Although I think you may be right Simon, it would still be a cool build. Just have to tick off the Engineering, and it can be done. A series 3 as a donor is the right age, but that would be a 109 unless the chassis was shortened. An RRC gives you coil springs and a 100" wheel base, which would also make a great unit. A forward control on a coil spring chassis... Mmmmm.... Coil springs......:D
Mick_Marsh
9th July 2014, 10:53 PM
Yes indeed Gav.
I'd forget about the 101 idea. There's plenty about.
Now, a coiled FC. That has merit.
On a 100" chassis, interesting. I'd put it on a 110" chassis. You are setting it up as a camper, right?
Better still, build it on a Perentie 6x6 chassis. There are bound to be a few suitable wrecks coming up in the near future.
101RRS
9th July 2014, 11:03 PM
Now, a coiled FC. That has merit.


What like this

LAND ROVER 101 Forward Control - coil sprung 2.8 TD 1975 | eBay
Homestar
9th July 2014, 11:10 PM
Well, that's a nice setup.:)
Mick_Marsh
9th July 2014, 11:16 PM
What like this

LAND ROVER 101 Forward Control - coil sprung 2.8 TD 1975 | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-101-Forward-Control-coil-sprung-2-8-TD-1975-/121379330890?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item1c42c59b4a)
As nice and desirable as it is, it is still a 101.
If crusty62 wants a 101, he could do worse than that one.
But,
I gather he wants to build one from scratch. Why limit yourself to a 101?
I quite like the idea of a FC on a Perentie 6x6 chassis. Maybe with a twin turbo V8 diesel.
123rover50
10th July 2014, 07:06 AM
Hi Mick.
I dont have the twin turbo,s on mine and its a 6.2.
I have had no trouble from the engine but built it pre-internet so I hadnt read all the forum posts that say what a dog the 6.2 is.
Now I am worried:(
If I did it again it would be Isuzu or Cummins.:)

Keith
Brute
10th July 2014, 08:38 AM
There was an unfinished project for sale in WA a few years ago, with rangy chassis converted to forward control with Nissan patrol diesel and gearbox and a cab made from OKA drawings. I didn't have The funds at the time but was tempted. Think he ended up selling all the bits separately. Would have been an awesome unit if completed.
Sitec
10th July 2014, 05:18 PM
Re using series/defer/Rangie chassis's for a 101 project... Not the way to go! The 101 chassis is a flat ladder, the rest are stepped and swept. The straight chassis with its flat usable top in a 101 is part of a 101's character. Coils would be easy... Using 4 110/130 rear 7" coils and carriers to suit.. They'd have to be stepped into the chassis, and use the original springs cut in half and still attached to the front hangers... The colls would sit atop the axles as in a 110 etc. An 'A' frame would be needed on each axle but that's how I'd do it.... Still think the original springs are soft enough with weight in it or 1 rear leaf removed. :)

Just had a look at the pics on the Ebay advert.. Wonder what the go is with the headlights.. Don't look good stickin out! Its not the tidiest of vehicles. Clever bugger has uploaded a pic of his email address tho!! Never thought of doin that! ;)
DasLandRoverMan
11th July 2014, 05:22 PM
I recall there being a lot more pictures of that one the last time it was up for sale on eBay.
The suspension setup on the thing if frankly pretty scary looking, a selection of Range Rover mounting brackets attached to the original chassis and the radius arm mounts all braced together with angle.

The whitbread one that was on a few weeks back had it done a bit more convincingly on a scratch built chassis.

A coil sprung IIB FC type vehicle is quite a simple prospect in terms of building the appropriate framework on a 110 chassis and attaching the body.
I've done one myself and seen a few others do similar.
Sitec
11th July 2014, 05:34 PM
The suspension setup on the thing if frankly pretty scary looking, a selection of Range Rover mounting brackets attached to the original chassis and the radius arm mounts all braced together with angle.

Those were my thoughts but thought I wouldn't say it! :)
jakeslouw
8th September 2014, 03:48 PM
Just saw this thread: Das I saw your post about a 110 chassis with a flat sub-frame added like the FC2A/B ?

Has anybody got the FC101 body in CAD or something similar like Sketchup?
loanrangie
9th September 2014, 01:16 PM
The only swept part of a 110 chassis is after the rear axle so it would be easy to straighten that out so then its almost completely flat.
FC110 or FC130 would be pretty cool, i did see someone on one of the AULRO trips that had a slightly stretched 101 with a sort of extra cab arrangement.
DasLandRoverMan
9th September 2014, 05:04 PM
The entire chassis is 'swept' hence the need to build the top frame to support the cab.

You'd need to do similar to build one on a Disco or 110 chassis, whilst the back end would need a fair bit of work to shorten it to suit the 101 rear overhang.

All doable though.
loanrangie
9th September 2014, 05:08 PM
The entire chassis is 'swept' hence the need to build the top frame to support the cab.

You'd need to do similar to build one on a Disco or 110 chassis, whilst the back end would need a fair bit of work to shorten it to suit the 101 rear overhang.

All doable though.

You mean the 101's is swept ? Just looked at Lockey's cummins 101 build and his 110 chassis is flat from front crossmember to just before rear axle.
Sitec
9th September 2014, 06:36 PM
You mean the 101's is swept ? Just looked at Lockey's cummins 101 build and his 110 chassis is flat from front crossmember to just before rear axle.

A 101 chassis is totally flat across the top face from front to back..

Lockey's Cummins 101?? Thought he was doing a 110... Pictures Lockey!!! :D
Mick_Marsh
9th September 2014, 07:06 PM
i did see someone on one of the AULRO trips that had a slightly stretched 101 with a sort of extra cab arrangement.
That would have been MudSkull. It was stretched by 20".
jakeslouw
10th September 2014, 03:31 PM
OK I found some Sketchup models on 3DWarehouse:

https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model.html?id=3d42cc0cb8ae3c7c2e3920e4cf00844c

Now I just have to get my brain around CAD...........
101RRS
10th September 2014, 03:59 PM
That would have been MudSkull. It was stretched by 20".

The Colonel - has a P76 4.4 V8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMDv5b_YtAo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntri41h1HNA

Garry
loanrangie
11th September 2014, 12:30 PM
A 101 chassis is totally flat across the top face from front to back..

Lockey's Cummins 101?? Thought he was doing a 110... Pictures Lockey!!! :D

Dyslexic moment :D, yeah so its really only after the rear axle where a 110 chassis changes.
DasLandRoverMan
11th September 2014, 04:36 PM
No, they are very different.

101

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/09/1168.jpg (http://s460.photobucket.com/user/DasLandRoverMan/media/101%20rebuild/6f78f4c7.jpg.html)

110

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/09/1169.jpg

A IIB chassis looks like this

http://www.brit-car.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/IMAG0381.jpg

Do you see?