Toilets on the Canning

[Hopalong]

On a recent trip on the southern [well 33 south ] section of the Canning stock route we were pleased to note that the industrious souls from trackcare WA have installed several elevated toilets at various points along the way. We were disappointed to find all the ones we looked in were full.There were instructions on how to empty but you needed a tow bar for the trailers and to dig a big hole to burn and bury. We had no tow bars and not fit enough to dig a big enough hole in hard ground, so the problem remains. So if you are going on the Canning you may need to take a tow bar rubber gloves and a big shovel ?

[isuzurover]

... not fit enough to dig a big enough hole in hard ground, ...

???

We had no problems digging holes anywhere along the canning. Even the OAPs in our group.

We avoided the built toilets for similar reasons. A single use toilet you dig yourself smells a lot better and has a better view.

[cactus]

I used to work for the government using the canning as an access route for geological mapping work. toilets on the stock route is not something I would have ever thought to appear. to me lts a bit of a frontere although since my time there, im sure tourism has had an impact. but toilets.... next they will have service stations and maccas.

[mikehzz]

The whole world is a potential toilet for real men...:D

[Vern]

Toilets at durba springs is a good idea though due to the camp area, bit of a hike to find privacy there

[bob10]

The facilities are maintained by the traditional owners. There must have been a bit of a mess out there, to warrant toilets. Perhaps an indication of the numbers travelling the stock route now. Went down the gunbarrel in the eighties, not many there then. Giles had toilets, but the main attraction was the bar, Bob :D




Canning Stock Route (http://www.canningstockroute.net.au/management-of-the-canning-stock-route.aspx)

[bob10]

This is a disgrace, Bob


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/07/812.jpg
Tourists helping the Martu rangers to clean off
the graffiti at Pinpi (Durba Springs)

[Vern]

Who on earth would carry paint all the way out there just for that, what dickheads, Such a nice area, and many miles from nowhere:angry:

[Tank]

Toilets would be much preferred to crap stained toilet paper blowing in the wind, take your own toilets (Porta-Potti) with you, leave nothing behind, Regards Frank.

[Vern]

Tank, how are you going to transport 2 weeks worth of crap with you?:(

[BigJon]

Toilets would be much preferred to crap stained toilet paper blowing in the wind, take your own toilets (Porta-Potti) with you, leave nothing behind, Regards Frank.

It is pretty simple.

Dig hole.
Excrete and wipe.
Burn used dunny paper.
Backfill hole.

[ramblingboy42]

Tank, how are you going to transport 2 weeks worth of crap with you?:(

funny that.....people always mange to carry several weeks of booze with them....it's just a priority thing isn't it?

[BMKal]

funny that.....people always mange to carry several weeks of booze with them....it's just a priority thing isn't it?

Several weeks of booze ...................... :eek:

I'd need a bloody tandem trailer. :p

Much easier to just carry enough for a few nights, and buy more along the way. ;)

[ramblingboy42]

Several weeks of booze ...................... :eek:

I'd need a bloody tandem trailer. :p

Much easier to just carry enough for a few nights, and buy more along the way. ;)

mate, I hope you take your empties with you.....

not try to hide them like arseholes do on the Simpson

[GoldCloverLeaf]

Yep that is the key ***burn*** your toilet paper after use, animals will otherwise dig it up and it blows all over the place. Even in May there was a fair bit of toilet paper around Cape York, i can't imagine what it's like towards the end of the dry. I can imagine it would be a bit of a downer seeing toilet paper in a remote section of the CSR...!

Burning it also keeps the flies away while you cover up the hole you dug.

[bob10]

Toilets would be much preferred to crap stained toilet paper blowing in the wind, take your own toilets (Porta-Potti) with you, leave nothing behind, Regards Frank.


There are chemicals on the market now, that are bio-degradable. And, there is toilet paper designed to break down. I can't remember the name, there is a portable toilet chemical now, where you can safely dispose of the waste in a hole in the ground. The other alternative, is disposing of the waste at dedicated disposal points, usually at caravan parks, & some boat ramps. Bob

[gusthedog]

Tank, how are you going to transport 2 weeks worth of crap with you?:(

My porta potti holds two or even three weeks of crap easy. Number 1's in the bush, number 2's in the potti. Easy;). And you don't leave campsites stinking like **** and animals don't have anything to dig up. Burn or carry out your loo paper and it's like you were never there.

IMHO you should never **** in a hole in the ground in a bush environment. There is just no need these days. I reckon you are just being plain lazy if you do. Again, my opinion so if you don't agree that's fine. But I may call you a ****! :D

[bob10]

This is from the internet, Bob


Portable Toilet Chemicals @ ExplorOz Forum (http://www.exploroz.com/Forum/Topic/87093/Portable_Toilet_Chemicals.aspx)

[ramblingboy42]

This really is a **** thread

When you're driving up and down and bouncing around in crook country , what happens to the contents of the 'potty'?

[gusthedog]

This really is a **** thread

When you're driving up and down and bouncing around in crook country , what happens to the contents of the 'potty'?

They are sealed. I did 45,000kms with one in the camper and it never leaked once. No ****. :D

I have mine in a large plastic box just in case though.....

[mikehzz]

My porta potti holds two or even three weeks of crap easy. Number 1's in the bush, number 2's in the potti. Easy;). And you don't leave campsites stinking like **** and animals don't have anything to dig up. Burn or carry out your loo paper and it's like you were never there.

IMHO you should never **** in a hole in the ground in a bush environment. There is just no need these days. I reckon you are just being plain lazy if you do. Again, my opinion so if you don't agree that's fine. But I may call you a ****! :D

Mate, are they easy to empty? And where do you empty them? This really is a **** conversation. :D

[bob10]

Mate, are they easy to empty? And where do you empty them? This really is a **** conversation. :D


Yes , and into a hole in the ground, I really suggest you go back a couple of posts, and be educated. Bob

[bob10]

This really is a **** thread

When you're driving up and down and bouncing around in crook country , what happens to the contents of the 'potty'?


Nothing. If the potti is secured by gaffa tape. Jeez, I'm nearly 66 years old, and I know this. What's wrong with you young fellas, brain dead? Bob

[mikehzz]

Yes , and into a hole in the ground, I really suggest you go back a couple of posts, and be educated. Bob

Thanks for the **** answer. What my dead brain was really interested in was can you empty them into a normal toilet, does it get everywhere in the process, does the outlet stink after it is emptied....**** like that.

[bob10]

Thanks for the **** answer. What my dead brain was really interested in was can you empty them into a normal toilet, does it get everywhere in the process, does the outlet stink after it is emptied....**** like that.


Well why didn't you say that in your post. Bob

[ramblingboy42]

gaffa tape.....**** that stuff's good isn't it?

and thanks for the compliment Bob.

[gusthedog]

Thanks for the **** answer. What my dead brain was really interested in was can you empty them into a normal toilet, does it get everywhere in the process, does the outlet stink after it is emptied....**** like that.

It's easiest to empty them into the screw opening thing on the drain pipe of the toilet on the outside of the house. The outlet fits in nice and snug with less chance of 'slop' or 'spashback'. If you empty into a toilet itself it's easier to get poo on you.

It's the main clean out point on the outside of the house like in this photo:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/07/791.jpg


But that's at home. There are thousands of RV dump points all round Oz.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/07/792.jpg

And they generally have a hose incase you get splashed. But you rarely if ever get splashed at all if you take your time. The screw on outlet pipe to drain the porta potti tank has a screw on cap at each end with a rubber seal - so no smell. The good biodegradable chemicals really take the smell out of it too. So the drain pipe really just smells like toilet air freshener, not poo.

[Tank]

Tank, how are you going to transport 2 weeks worth of crap with you?:(
With great care, Regards Frank.

[Tank]

It is pretty simple.

Dig hole.
Excrete and wipe.
Burn used dunny paper.
Backfill hole.
Must be a lot of people that can't afford matches, going by the loads of ****ty crap paper streamers around at most camp sites, Regards Frank.

[Vern]

This thread is about the canning, for those who have not done it, you are very limited to what you can carry as you need two weeks of supplies, fuel, water, food etc...not many camper trailers and caravans on the canning, and not many dump points either, unless you count your own personal dump point ;)

[BigJon]

Must be a lot of people that can't afford matches, going by the loads of ****ty crap paper streamers around at most camp sites, Regards Frank.


Nope, just lots of stupid, selfish, ignorant people.

[2stroke]

Another thing I noticed on the Canning is the 44 gallon drums left around the place, not so much the drums themselves, guess they'll eventually rust away like the car bodies, but people seem to think they're rubbish bins, the amount of rubbish left in them was truly sad. Do they think the council will be through next week to empty them?

[bob10]

This thread is about the canning, for those who have not done it, you are very limited to what you can carry as you need two weeks of supplies, fuel, water, food etc...not many camper trailers and caravans on the canning, and not many dump points either, unless you count your own personal dump point ;)


The point is, you don't need a dump point with the new bio degradable chemicals. It is quite safe to deposit the contents of the bottom tank along the way.[ at least that was told to me by the gentleman selling the product] Even the paper degrades down . A porta potti weighs a couple of kilos, best fitted in a roof top basket, and you have to factor in the water used. If there is room, a valuable addition to your camping gear, I think, Bob

[bob10]

gaffa tape.....**** that stuff's good isn't it?

and thanks for the compliment Bob.


Sorry, mate, no offence meant, I think I get my abrupt nature from my father, he sneaks up on me sometimes, Bob
:twisted:

[Vern]

True bob, but my point is, do you have room for something that's not actually a necessity. Water, food, fuel are a bit more important on that track, I know we had no room, nore did any of the other cars for a makeshift toilet.
I saw no evidence of toilet paper and rubbish on the canning, yes a lot of 44's, and the only ones we came across with rubbish in them was at well 33, which are actual bins that get emptied by the nearby community..
Well 6 is building a self composting toilet from memory, it already has the trailer under the long drop job.:)

[AndyG]

Since we are talking ****, Porta Potti is a generic term and a brand, like Hoover.

Is the Porta Potti the best brand to purchase, or are there better alternatives.

I would hate to buy a crap brand and end up in the ****.

[djam1]

A little bit off post but I put one of these in my Motorhome and have found it to be excellent.
Nice and green so should please the hairy arm pitters as well

Airhead - A Better Way To Go (http://www.abetterwaytogo.com.au/products/airhead.aspx)

[spudboy]

Hey djam - that's really similar to the one we got from the USA for our MAN Truck build.

Nature's Head Composting Toilets: Saving Our Water for Tomorrow (http://natureshead.net/)

Does it have any odors at all? How long can you travel for before it needs emptying? Is it a drama to empty?

Thanks
David

[djam1]

David
Yes they are closely related to the Natures Head
They will go for about 60 craps

Must admit I was cynical but they don't smell at all and the soil that you empty out isn't at all unpleasant.

If anyone needs one I have a Dometic VT2500 Vacuum Toilet that I removed from the Motorhome sadly I was foolish enough to spend $750 on it before I pulled it out.

[ramblingboy42]

My comment wasn't sarcastic or anything Bob.

I was genuinely thanking you for calling me a young bloke.

no **** mate.....

[bob10]

True bob, but my point is, do you have room for something that's not actually a necessity. Water, food, fuel are a bit more important on that track, I know we had no room, nore did any of the other cars for a makeshift toilet.
I saw no evidence of toilet paper and rubbish on the canning, yes a lot of 44's, and the only ones we came across with rubbish in them was at well 33, which are actual bins that get emptied by the nearby community..
Well 6 is building a self composting toilet from memory, it already has the trailer under the long drop job.:)


True, you have to load the vehicle to suit the trip. I'm just a little bit agog with this new fangled dunny, like a rat with a gold tooth. Bob
:D

[bob10]

Since we are talking ****, Porta Potti is a generic term and a brand, like Hoover.

Is the Porta Potti the best brand to purchase, or are there better alternatives.

I would hate to buy a crap brand and end up in the ****.


I have a Thetford. Does the job, no complaints so far. We have a popup tent [ shower tent] we use for privacy, we also use the Thetford at home when we have a do, use it as an outside toilet. Possibly the only criticism is it's a bit close too the ground for tall people, consideration for some kind of stand/ couple of logs etc., could be useful, Bob

[gusthedog]

True, you have to load the vehicle to suit the trip. I'm just a little bit agog with this new fangled dunny, like a rat with a gold tooth. Bob
:D

Um, they've been around since the 1960's. I take it you drive a series eh? :D

And Thetford make the brand PortaPotti. They are the original and best IMHO. They don't leak and the flush works brilliantly. They also have a non stick bowl surface. Which is important. Trust me :)

[bob10]

Um, they've been around since the 1960's. I take it you drive a series eh? :D




I'm from Qld., :angel: Bob

[AndyG]

The thunder box is an interesting solution, but you still have the bury/burn/carry issue.

[Tank]

True bob, but my point is, do you have room for something that's not actually a necessity. Water, food, fuel are a bit more important on that track, I know we had no room, nore did any of the other cars for a makeshift toilet.
I saw no evidence of toilet paper and rubbish on the canning, yes a lot of 44's, and the only ones we came across with rubbish in them was at well 33, which are actual bins that get emptied by the nearby community..
Well 6 is building a self composting toilet from memory, it already has the trailer under the long drop job.:)
Damien, your statement "that's not actually a necessity" will come back to bite you in years to come.
I was talking to 2 Rangers in a South Coast NP about the problem of toilet paper streamers all over the place, even under 50m from a perfectly good drop toilet.
They said that once the 3 drop toilets in this park were full they were not going to be replaced, I said that would create more ****ty streamers than now.
They said if people could not take their **** and toilet paper back out of the park with them then the parks would have to be closed as they didn't have the resources to clean up after these pigs that leave their crap all over the place.
So Damien when you see your local NP closed to 4WD's and Campers because people don't bring there own toilets and take out their crap with them you will realise it is a Necessity, NOW not later after the parks are closed.
Before I got my Camper trailer I used to carry all my gear and my Porta-Potti in the back of my Disco 1, you just have to plan your loading a lot better and don't take anything you don't need, Regards Frank.

[bob10]

Found this, like their style, Bob


Canning stock route . Full Movie. - YouTube

[Vern]

Once again frank, I'm not talking about a national park on the south coast, I am talking the canning stock route, where you need to carry everything to last for the two week jaunt. This thread is about toilets on the canning.
I never saw any signs of toilet paper on the track when I did it a few weeks ago.