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phibbzy
15th July 2014, 09:18 AM
Is 6T enough capacity for wheel bearings, gearbox/transfer bearings, bushes etc in the land rover world?

I have a set of bushes I want to look at doing myself in the 110.

Kincrome Shop Press - 6000kg - Supercheap Auto Australia (http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Kincrome-Shop-Press-6000kg.aspx?pid=322399#Cross)

Would this do the task or should I be looking in the 10-15T range?

I doubt there would be anything I would use this for outside of these duties - perhaps some forming of steel/bending etc...

pop058
15th July 2014, 09:23 AM
I would have thought around 15-20 T would be more suitable.

phibbzy
15th July 2014, 09:41 AM
Space and budget are the limiting factors but I understand the concept of poor man pays twice...

MacMan
15th July 2014, 10:12 AM
Having just done some suspension bushes in my FIL's 12 ton press (with difficulty) and having done ALL of my LT77 and LT230 rebuild work with nothing more than manual pullers and a small hand held ram kit, I would say go hard or go elsewhere. For a normally infrequently used floor standing tool, one which takes up the same floor space and still can't do the job is less than useless.

landy
15th July 2014, 11:06 AM
I have a supacheap 6t. It's ok for bearings. But struggles read can't cope with bushes. It was useless trying to press out the A frame ball joint. Ended up using a large hammer.

jboot51
15th July 2014, 11:12 AM
Same press as mine. The jack died and I use a 4t jack.
I personally have done 3 full sets of bushes with it, usually the rear trailing arm bushes put up a fight and need a little heat.

phibbzy
15th July 2014, 12:12 PM
Thanks guys.

Any advice on what press to go for in the 10-20T range?

workingonit
15th July 2014, 12:28 PM
Like Landy indicates, I'd go for something better, even better than 12T if tackling the A-frame - otherwise it is mallet time. I have a 12T SuperCheap, but at its max it starts to bend the support rails underneath the ram rather than applying that force to the job. While on the A-frame, its the rust and crud that makes it hard to force out. Once the receiver is cleaned up the new ball assembly goes in with little effort - my experience with an MR Automotive serviceable unit.

Jordan
15th July 2014, 12:32 PM
Go for the one with the heaviest/stiffest frame.
It's probably more important than the ram tonnage.
Flex is hard to control. You can slowly built up pressure, and then it all moves suddenly as the frame springs back.

Another detail I like is having 4 separate upright members.
The ones with 2 channels don't allow long parts to go through them sideways.

I once used a 5 inch cast iron vice to press a 500cc motorcycle bigend apart and back together again - worked great. Surely couldn't have been even 1 ton?

chopper
15th July 2014, 12:33 PM
look at the gap between rails on the bed, most cheapies are 100mm which is next to useless, and 12 t minimum

FANTOM P38
15th July 2014, 08:18 PM
Is 6T enough capacity for wheel bearings, gearbox/transfer bearings, bushes etc in the land rover world?

I have a set of bushes I want to look at doing myself in the 110.

Kincrome Shop Press - 6000kg - Supercheap Auto Australia (http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/Kincrome-Shop-Press-6000kg.aspx?pid=322399#Cross)

Would this do the task or should I be looking in the 10-15T range?

I doubt there would be anything I would use this for outside of these duties - perhaps some forming of steel/bending etc...

Well for what it's worth I read a few posts that suggested I would need a 20T press to remove/replace the rear wheel hub bearings on the Fantom (P38) but I have a 12T press & it did the job no problem.

Roverlord off road spares
18th July 2014, 08:08 PM
Thanks guys.

Any advice on what press to go for in the 10-20T range?
The difference from 10 to 20 ton is usually just the jack. Hare & forbes do a 20 ton for $297, should be plenty on ebay for similar money.
P144 | HP-20 Workshop Hydraulic Press | machineryhouse.com.au (http://www.machineryhouse.com.au/P144)

there have been times when you are glad you have 20 ton, as it's a good feeling when a tough bush gives up under a hell of a lot of pressure. The swear jar is cashless then:)

steveG
18th July 2014, 08:51 PM
I've got a 12T Supercheap that I got on special for around $80 a couple of years back. Looks like the Kinchrome one you linked to, but different colour.
I definitely wouldn't pay $200 for it.

Didn't cope with fitting the rear axle bearings on my daughter's Triton, but other than that its been extremely useful and done most jobs I've needed to do on the County.
Yes, I'd like more grunt, and larger physical size as there have been times its struggled, but for that price its MUCH better than no press at all.

It has proper rolled C channel for the beams (like the Kinchrome one), not just formed section, and I haven't had an issue with flex.

Steve