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kingo
15th July 2014, 11:33 AM
Hi, I'm considering getting my 2.7TDV6 RRS remapped and want to know from someone who has done it, whether it is worth the money. I don't do much towing, but like the idea of some extra horses and torque. They are claiming about 22% increase in both KW and torque.

Would love to hear from some experiences in the field.

Thanks Andrew

captcam68
15th July 2014, 11:36 AM
Had it done on my old 2009 tdv6 by Bruce Davis at Davis performance Landys, definitely quicker off the mark quite noticeably but best result was acceleration at the high end or: overtaking on the freeway, better economy too!
Cheers

Tombie
15th July 2014, 11:37 AM
Here's the question:
How much are "they" charging
Do you get a remap interface to keep (allowing you to change maps and clear basic error codes)
Is it a generic tune or tailored to your needs?

Who you looking at going with?

101RRS
15th July 2014, 12:09 PM
I had mine done about 2 years ago. Not sure of claims re power and torque increases but my 0-100kph improved by about 2.5secs.

My map (BAS) is tailored to my needs and I did not go for a KW increase (though this may have happened) but a torque increase at around the 100-110kph area, the speed that you overtake at and the speed that you tow at on highways.

Two years later I really do not notice it as you get used to it - I just remember that overtaking at around 100kph and above, while not slow or wanting had to be well calculated where now it is more deliverate.

No difference in fuel consumption, smoothness or smoke.

While I don't notice it now I think if I went back to the basic map I am sure I would notice that.

I have both maps and can change them at will - takes about 5 minutes and that is finding the gear - but haven't done it in a while.

Well worth while but some suppliers pricing is over the top.

garry

kingo
15th July 2014, 12:24 PM
Quote is $990 from Ritters.

Is the BAS map easy to do and what cost, I believe they are quote similar power increases.

Thanks Andrew

Redback
15th July 2014, 12:37 PM
Quote is $990 from Ritters.

Is the BAS map easy to do and what cost, I believe they are quote similar power increases.

Thanks Andrew

You probably find that Ritters use BAS software anyway, so will be similar.

Baz.

101RRS
15th July 2014, 01:25 PM
I had a special deal as I was doing some trial work for BAS so to get the price you will need to check their website.

A thing to note - if you do not have a third party testbook like Faultmate you need to buy their installation hardware - the actual map is quite cheap. The total price of map and hardware was under $1000 the last time I checked so if you get a BAS map elsewhere other than from BAS make sure you get the hardware as well so you can take it on and off as you need.

If someone is charging around $1000 without the hardware you are being ripped off as the actual map is very cheap.

Garry

winaje
15th July 2014, 01:36 PM
Is the BAS hardware VIN locked, can person A use their hardware to load a map bought by person B into person B's vehicle?

Tombie
15th July 2014, 01:41 PM
Vin locked, can be unlocked and on sold.

Tombie
15th July 2014, 01:43 PM
Also check, many with Autologic just load their upgrades which cannot be customised.

BAS can provide (for a fee) 2 different maps and you can switch.

kingo
15th July 2014, 06:38 PM
Thanks for the feedback, do you think the extra power noticeable, I know its not meant to be a sports car, but some extra grunt would be helpful.

What about long term issues, anything to worry about. My RRS has just clocked over 80000kms, so should have plenty of life in it. Would be a shame to do something that will reduce this.

101RRS
15th July 2014, 06:53 PM
Thanks for the feedback, do you think the extra power noticeable.

Yes definitely but over time you get used to it but every now and then every now and then you say to yourself this thing pulls like a train or your passenger says - wow this car has some get up and go - all from 2.7 litres.

kingo
24th July 2014, 09:42 PM
Well just the remap done today and have driven back from the workshop to home so far.
Is it worth it, I think so, noticeable extra grunt through the gears, put your foot down once underway and she really gets up and goes, nice!!!
Off the line there will always be the turbo lag, but put the foot down in the mid of the power band and it goes a lot harder.
So far very pleased, but as mentioned earlier, I'll probably get used to it and not notice the improvement as much.
Bang for buck, not bad. In the old days to get the same result, I had to put extractors, big exhaust, mild cam on my old WB ute and it probably didn't go much harder, but the sound was sensational. That was some 20 years ago, but wasn't it fun.
If anyone is interested in getting a remap, so far all seems good.

101RRS
24th July 2014, 10:02 PM
Turbo lag - not on my 2.7 TDV6 - gearbox delay on selecting the gear yes - the notorious pregnant pause.

What map did you go for?

Garry

kingo
25th July 2014, 03:58 PM
Had it done at Ritters whilst in for a service, they quote the same increases as BAS and Bluefin, I guess they use similar modi factions to the ECU program.

So far the power increase is great, especially 2500-3500 rpm.

jonesy63
26th July 2014, 02:46 PM
That matches up to what most of the 2.7 remaps do. Here's what the Superchips Bluefin reckon:
http://www.mybluefin.com.au/curves/landrovertdv6.pdf

From 1800 RPM up is much better. :cool:

I've had the BAS remap on my previous D3 and reckon it was the better tune. The D4 2.7 on Bluefin is good - but from idle off the line is not as refined as the BAS on D3, imho.

kingo
27th July 2014, 07:21 PM
Had the day at Lerderderg Gorge near Melbourne and the extra power from the remap is great Had my off road tyres on which are 32in and with the extra grunt especially on the highway was noticeable.
A friend on the trip who has the same RRS, with the same Maxxis Bighorns (we bought 8 tyres at once and got a good deal), we were side by side on the freeway and put the foot to the floor, my car pulled away no worries, also I had a roof rack cage with same spare tyre and driving lights on top, he didn't.

So pleased to same the remap has been a great result, worth the money.

Giddyup

TerryO
28th July 2014, 03:16 PM
Hi Kingo, did they tell you what program they used?

kingo
28th July 2014, 03:26 PM
Said it was from Autologic????
Had a look at their website, but couldn't find anything about remaps.
But figures quoted are the same or very similar to BAS's, 22% increase in power and torque.

TerryO
30th July 2014, 06:40 AM
Thanks for that Kingo.