Non fitting exhaust pipe

[Jordan]

I tried to fit a new front exhaust to my S2A SWB, and it's a complete disaster.
Described on ebay as suitable for S3, when I asked if it'd also fit the S2A the answer was yes. It's labelled Britpart.
With nuts all done tight, it leaks badly, and it interferes with the chassis - a useless part.

[Ozdunc]

I've got one of those fitted to my 2a swb fitted fine and didn't leak, although I have headrs now and have chopped it around it bit.
For the money I thought it was a good bit of kit.
If it's leaking and knocking on the chassis, are you sure it's oriented correctly?

[grey_ghost]

Hi,

I had exactly the same problem - and as yet I have not resolved it. It too is a "britpart" exhaust pipe that will not fit to my standard 2.25 4cyl, in my 1960 SWB Series II.

Luckily I kept the old exhaust pipe - and when you compare them there are 2 main differences. The diameter of the pipe as it goes into the manifold is way too big. The other problem is the angle of the pipe at that end is all wrong...

I took both pipes (original and replacement pipe) back to the supplier and they were quite puzzled.. They dragged out other britpart replacement pipes and agreed that they were ALL wrong... So they are currently trying to source another supplier...

Worst case - I will take the old exhaust pipe to an exhaust shop and ask for one to be made.. But it is every frustrating when something like this happens... Grrr..

[Jordan]

If it's leaking and knocking on the chassis, are you sure it's oriented correctly?

Only one way I can see it could go.

[Jordan]

They dragged out other britpart replacement pipes and agreed that they were ALL wrong...

I'm inclined to think that's right - just a badly made part.
Yes, it is annoying but I try to be philosophical. Old machinery has its ups & downs.

I have a stop gap solution. The pipe I removed was OK except for the top conical fitting - the pressed steel had deformed and partly perished.
However, I had a scrapped exhaust pipe from a wrecked S3, which had a much better top bit although the rest was cactus. I did a transplant to join the best bits of 2 condemned pipes, and made a hopefully serviceable one, with the help of an oxy-acet welding kit. The S3 part is solid steel instead of just pressed sheet metal, which is probably why it survived.
When I bolted it to the manifold, the triangular plate came hard up against it, and the pipe remained loose. Curses! But I found some copper (maybe brass) material and made a "gasket" to take up some space. It all seems good now.
It's a miserable alternative to a good, new and well-fitting part, but at least that problem is solved, for the time being.
When checking for leaks (fan belt removed), I discovered one, not from the exhaust pipe this time but from the manifold - manifold joint. To be continued...

Photos - show how Britpart pipe bumps the chassis, the Frankenpipe and the metal gasket.

[grey_ghost]

Hi All,

I took my britpart exhaust back to my local supplier - he has then sourced another exhaust from a different supplier. Today I went and picked-up the new exhaust and it looks like a much better duplicate compared to the britpart one.

So my suggestion is - if you have purchased a part from a Landy supplier and it doesn't fit, take it back! That at least gives your supplier the chance to rectify the problem.

My supplier said that he won't buy this particular part from britpart any more and that he will source it from the new supplier. In fairness to the supplier - there are thousands of parts, and unless somebody tells him that it's not up to scratch - how is he meant to know!

Cheers,
Tom.

[Ozdunc]

Its a bit worrying how someone can buy a part and then someone 2 years later buy the same part and the tolerances be that out.

You feel that if they put an extra bit on care in the quality control and charged accordingly they'd actually sell more stuff.

I bought some rear lights recently where they were very cheap (maybe $6 each), but they were a new product line. The quality is so ordinary, the wiring was shoddy and the bulb holder plastic so soft the spring is able to pull the bulb through the plastic so it falls out.
The only thing of those lights I've kept is the lenses.

You'd think that if they increased the price, and spent some time ensuring the wiring was good and the parts are suitable for the job...

Mind you i've never actually written back to the product maker them selves to say I've had an issue.

[chazza]

In fairness to the supplier - there are thousands of parts, and unless somebody tells him that it's not up to scratch - how is he meant to know!

Cheers,
Tom.

I agree completely Tom. In the past I have been caught out by buying parts in advance of needing them - especially rubber ones - only to find that i haven't kept a record of where I bought it from. :(

So many rubber parts have perished in a dark box, I have vowed never to buy them too early again,

Cheers Charlie

[Ozdunc]

To be honest the rubber parts are rubbish.

2 months ago I bought the handbrake cover/gaiter - its already split ( I don't know who manufactures them ).
They are cheap, but its not like you have a choice. I'd much rather pay extra for something thats likely to last, in the case of the rubber gaiters I'm thinking of sewing up some leather ones, covering them in 'dubbin' and they should be good for ages.

[gromit]

To be honest the rubber parts are rubbish.

2 months ago I bought the handbrake cover/gaiter - its already split ( I don't know who manufactures them ).
They are cheap, but its not like you have a choice. I'd much rather pay extra for something thats likely to last, in the case of the rubber gaiters I'm thinking of sewing up some leather ones, covering them in 'dubbin' and they should be good for ages.

Some of the UK suppliers list 'pattern' or 'Genuine' 338780 HANDBRAKE GAITER | shop | www.lrseries.com (http://www.lrseries.com/shop/product/listing/700/338780-HANDBRAKE-GAITER.html'search=handbrake&page=1)

Aftermarket rubber parts seem to be the most problematic of Land Rover parts. Like Charlie I had tie rod boots decompose in 3 years, most of the time the vehicle was in a dark shed !
I've since managed to source aftermarket ones that will last.......


Colin

[Jordan]

Hi All,

So my suggestion is - if you have purchased a part from a Landy supplier and it doesn't fit, take it back! That at least gives your supplier the chance to rectify the problem.

Cheers,
Tom.

I was overcharged for the delivery - $70, bare pipe didn't even need wrapping.
Yeah, should've got a quote first, but very annoyed so will not deal with the seller again - ever.

[isuzurover]

I am always curious why anyone would buy exhaust pipes from the uk? IME exhaust shops can make a better product for a lower price.

[chazza]

I am always curious why anyone would buy exhaust pipes from the uk? IME exhaust shops can make a better product for a lower price.

I bought a complete system for my 80", mainly because I had nothing at all to copy and the price from the UK was very attractive. Also, the only bloke in town with an exhaust pipe bender, had no one to operate it and politely told me to go away.

Sometimes importing is well-worthwhile,

Cheers Charlie

[chazza]

To be honest the rubber parts are rubbish.

2 months ago I bought the handbrake cover/gaiter - its already split ( I don't know who manufactures them ).


Thank you for reminding me!

Mine was bought from a Field in England and now it lies in tatters - I do remember that much. I bought window rubbers from them at the same time and they have been fine,

Cheers Charlie