Perentie Engine Oil Capacity and Indicators malfunction

[Trraca]

I'm on a steep learning curve with all this mechanical stuff.

I have just changed all the oils and filters in ARN 48206 as a base point for future servicing. I used a Ryco Z419 oil filter since it was immediately available, mentioned on the forum as suitable and cross referenced to the Hitachi 4183853, Fleetguard LF3642 and Baldwin B7144.

I don't know if it was a "seniors moment" of losing count but the engine only seemed to take 7 litres of oil (RX Super) rather than the 8.5 litres listed in the Perentie specs. It shows slightly overfull on the dip stick. On starting the oil light went out after a second or two as it should and after a short 25 km test run the dip stick level hadn't changed.

My question is: is there any way of testing whether the upside-down oil filter is operating correctly since its seems to be a similar volume to the missing 1.5 litres.

The other curiosity is that everything was operating as expected until a short distance from home the indicators stopped working and when I turned off and later restarted the engine I had lost most of the warning lights (ignition,oil, park brake, CDL, glow plugs) except for the headlights and sidelights. The dip switch works which is on the same stalk as the indicators and it still starts immediately. All the (glass) fuses seem to be OK based on checking in situ with a multimeter and the battery is fully charged.

Any help or suggestions on what to do next would be much appreciated.

Cheers

Mike

[Barefoot Dave]

G'Day Mike.
Good on you for getting your hands dirty!
One of the positives of a Perentie is their relative simplicity and workspace in the engine bay. A rare example of design for ease of service rather than the modern 'packaging' designed for ease of assembly on the line using robots.

Ok, did you pre-fill your filter? This could account for the difference. If not, potentially you haven't drained it fully prior to refill. was it sitting flat during the service?

The instrument issues may be down to dirty contacts and earths in the instrument binnacle.
This is a 10 minute- 6 screw job. A squirt of Electrical contact cleaner/ protector will be beneficial:


Remove the screws retaining the Binnacle (check underneath also)
One by one, remove and clean all blade contacts attached to the instruments. Check for tightnes and crimp in if necessary.
Look for the earth points and remove, clean and replace.
Replace the binnacle and test.
Do the same on your indicator stalk.

i hope this helps.

[isuzurover]

You may not have the winged sump, which would account for the difference.

[Trraca]

Many thanks for the quick response Dave.

Yes, the reason I was keen to get an 'old-fashioned' Land Rover was to learn about vehicle maintenance and repair in remote locations when touring, on a straight-forward, non-electronic truck. The Perentie offered the simplicity of a Series landie with more modern power and suspension and build.

I didn't pre-fill the oil filter since it was upside down and I didn't figure out how to! (I did do it with the fuel filter though).

I forgot to mention the horn isn't working either which is on the same stalk but different fuse.

Cheers

Mike

[Trraca]

Thanks isuzurover

What is a winged sump? I haven't come across the term in my research. My vehicle is a Feb 1988 GS.

Cheers

Mike

[Trraca]

This is my sump which appears to be a new addition in the 2009 full rebuild so presumably not winged?

cheers

Mike

[isuzurover]

This is my sump which appears to be a new addition in the 2009 full rebuild so presumably not winged?

cheers

Mike

That is a standard sump - which explains the lower oil capacity.

The winged sump looks like this:
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[Judo]

I had thought the oil capacity either way was the same. Depending on whether you had the winged or wingless sump, the dip stick marks were higher or lower, giving the same oil volume.

Has anyone seen the (different) official oil capacity specs for each?

[Trraca]

Thanks isuzurover. That sorts my oil capacity problem.

Concerning the electrical problem, I arranged to meet up with my friendly auto sparkie and when I started up to go over to him I found everything was working again. Nevertheless we checked it out and found that although the fuses were good some of the holders were loose and not gripping the fuse properly. After a clean up and tighten the problem seems to have gone away.

I'm still a bit suspicious that it will reoccur since the fuse fix did not explain why the oil/ignition and CDL warning lights went on the blink as well and then cured themselves a couple of days later. I hate these intermittent faults, its like going to the dentist and finding the pains gone away when you get there but returns the moment you walk out the door! Anyhow, I'm about to follow Barefoot Dave's advice and clean up all the instrument contacts and earths. This will give a little more peace of mind and a bit of much needed practice at the same time. Not much point in having an easily fixed vehicle if you you don't know how to fix it in the bush is there.

Thanks for all your help guys - much appreciated.

Mike

[BadCo.]

You could also do as I have done (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/coil-sprung-military-land-rovers/201832-fuse-holder-upgrade.html) and get rid of those glass cartridge fuses and replace with reliable blade fuses.

I never had intermittent issues, just a burnt out terminal. But I heard of enough problems to warrant the upgrade.

-Bad

[Trraca]

I'm very impressed with your conversion and will do it one day - just not adept enough at electricals to attempt it at the moment!

Cheers

Mike

[solidrock]

I did an engine oil and filter change (FleetGuard LF3642) on my 1989 Perentie GS last night, and just like Trraca and a few others have noticed, it will only take about 7L to hit the high mark on the dipstick, despite the 1987 EMEI Servicing Information indicating the engine oil capacity as being 8.5L. Just like the others did, I filled her up, took it for a spin, and rechecked the level which was still about 1.5cm above the high mark.

Of course, while draining the excess I had to lose grip of the sump plug, which then fell into and blocked the funnel I was using to catch it all :mad: but I estimate that I did indeed spill about 1.5L of oil onto the concrete and now the level is spot on :D

On the topic of sumps, the Isuzu 4BD1 export parts manual lists 3 sump variants, only one of which has the wings mentioned by Isuzurover.

After some more digging, I found that the 4BD1 Army Landrover Parts list gives part number 8944663610 for the sump which lines up with one of the 2 non winged sumps in the Isuzu Export Parts list.