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Tote
11th March 2013, 06:16 PM
For those who may not know there is a project to restore a Garrett in Canberra at the moment. There is a site here Project 6029 (http://blog.project6029.com/) that details the progress being made.

In the meantime have a look at this

60 class Garratts double-head up Fassifern Bank - Winter, 1968 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-1EWpCQP7eE)

Ausfree
12th March 2013, 09:41 AM
Would be interesting to see one of these loco's in working order again.:D The cost of restoration would be horrendous, I would imagine!!:o

p.s. back again, just had a look at the 6029 site link and the figure of $70k needed is a lot lower than I would have imagined. Volunteers do help to keep costs down.

Rurover
27th July 2014, 10:18 PM
Was excited to see on ABC News tonight that "The biggest steam locomotive in the Southern Hemisphere" has been restored by enthusiasts in Canberra and had its first outing under its own steam this weekend.

Massive restored steam train completes first test run in Canberra - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-25/massive-steam-train-restored-in-canberra/5624482)

Can't wait to have a ride behind that beautiful beast!

Alan

Pedro_The_Swift
28th July 2014, 09:33 AM
Here's a technical question for you lot,
as its a 484+484, does the fact the drives are under a "diminishing load" make traction a problem?

Pedro_The_Swift
28th July 2014, 09:41 AM
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/07/178.jpg

vnx205
28th July 2014, 09:45 AM
Was excited to see on ABC News tonight that "The biggest steam locomotive in the Southern Hemisphere" has been restored by enthusiasts in Canberra and had its first outing under its own steam this weekend.

Massive restored steam train completes first test run in Canberra - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-25/massive-steam-train-restored-in-canberra/5624482)

Can't wait to have a ride behind that beautiful beast!

Alan

Not often you see that expression used literally.:p

robbotd5
28th July 2014, 11:05 AM
It would be great to see 6029 at next years Maitland steamfest!!!.
Regards
Robbo

Lotz-A-Landies
28th July 2014, 04:19 PM
Sorry to hyjack the thread but here is something for railway fans, the Governors carriage.

Go nice behind the Garrett

:twisted: :wasntme:

Tote
28th July 2014, 05:35 PM
Would be interesting to see one of these loco's in working order again.:D The cost of restoration would be horrendous, I would imagine!!:o

p.s. back again, just had a look at the 6029 site link and the figure of $70k needed is a lot lower than I would have imagined. Volunteers do help to keep costs down.

A Total of 400K has been raised so far without Govt assistance. A pretty good effort I reckon

Regards,
Tote

drivesafe
28th July 2014, 06:19 PM
Here's a technical question for you lot,
as its a 484+484, does the fact the drives are under a "diminishing load" make traction a problem?

Hi Pedro and it is actually the reverse.

Garrets have a high tractive effort to weight ratio than other forms of articulated type locomotives

Fatso
29th July 2014, 08:05 AM
Gee this brings back memories , used to fire these things on the Glenlea coal trains ,and from Gosford to Broadmeadow in the sixties before I pulled the pin and went to WA,s northwest . They were a great loco and had to be fired just right when working hard . Crikey it seems eons ago now . Al

isuzutoo-eh
29th July 2014, 09:08 AM
Gee this brings back memories , used to fire these things on the Glenlea coal trains ,and from Gosford to Broadmeadow in the sixties before I pulled the pin and went to WA,s northwest . They were a great loco and had to be fired just right when working hard . Crikey it seems eons ago now . Al

The ARHS ACT brought a South African Garratt driver over to teach them how to set up the auto stoker distribution jets, as they couldn't find anyone with AD60 experience who had an accurate and sound memory! Little did they know they should have put a wanted ad up on AULRO ;)

Fatso
29th July 2014, 10:56 AM
The ARHS ACT brought a South African Garratt driver over to teach them how to set up the auto stoker distribution jets, as they couldn't find anyone with AD60 experience who had an accurate and sound memory! Little did they know they should have put a wanted ad up on AULRO ;)



There should still be firemen around I would have thought that could have helped out , probably did not know !! , it took a while to learn the art , I used to fire flat and hot and not much in the back corners with just a tinge of smoke when working hard out of Broadmeadow , you had to be carefull not to put excess coal on the feed plate just inside the fire box door as the screw stoker could catch you out and build up making a lot of work to clear it with the pricker if you did not keep an eye on it , as the steam jets could not move it to well , that would really **** off the driver and make it a bad day .

isuzutoo-eh
29th July 2014, 01:06 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if the South African fellow was over for other reasons and offered his advice, and the story has improved since ;)

Here's a longer video of the beast on light engine trial:
AD60 6029 rides again, Saturday 26th July 2014 - YouTube

gazk
13th August 2014, 05:37 PM
I saw 6029 this afternoon steaming through Tarago towards Goulburn - Magnificent !! It had a couple of passenger carriages and an old Diesel Locomotive in tow. Nothing like a backup in case something goes wrong.

Ausfree
13th August 2014, 05:40 PM
I saw 6029 this afternoon steaming through Tarago towards Goulburn - Magnificent !! It had a couple of passenger carriages and an old Diesel Locomotive in tow. Nothing like a backup in case something goes wrong.

Wow, I wish I was there with my camera!!!!:)

drivesafe
16th August 2014, 07:22 AM
Here is 6029 on it’s trial run from Goulburn to Canberra on 14/08/14

Check the cattle in the paddock to the right of the line. They have probably seen plenty of trains, but what the hell is this!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NImBrqECYlU&feature=youtu.be

robbotd5
16th August 2014, 09:01 AM
Great clip. Thanks Drivesafe!.
Thoroughly enjoyable to see. It has quite a turn of speed too.
Can't wait to see it up close. I wonder how 6029's great grandfather is doing? 1210?.
Regards
Robbo

Ausfree
16th August 2014, 02:26 PM
Yep, great clip indeed!!!:D A truly magnificent loco and congratulations to the restoration team. They certainly are a dedicated bunch!!!:D

bidds
23rd August 2014, 06:37 PM
I was out for a drive and happened upon the beast at Tarago station, took a few snaps:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/08/502.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/08/503.jpg

Also liked the old Diesel too:
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/08/504.jpg

Ausfree
23rd August 2014, 06:47 PM
Great photo's, mate!!!:)

Bearman
23rd August 2014, 07:00 PM
Here is 6029 on it’s trial run from Goulburn to Canberra on 14/08/14

Check the cattle in the paddock to the right of the line. They have probably seen plenty of trains, but what the hell is this!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NImBrqECYlU&feature=youtu.be

Hey Drivesafe, what are you drinking!!!!! They look like sheep to me:o

Dinty
23rd August 2014, 07:26 PM
I can remember seeing these Locomotives coming through Maitland station when I was going to high school, they made the ground shake as they passed through the station, usually hauling grain from up in the states Nth west, in later years I nursed a chap (R.I.P) who drove Garrat's for more than 20 years, he was interesting to listen too, thanks for posting/sharing, I can't wait to go chasing it somewhere, cheers Dennis:angel::angel:

drivesafe
23rd August 2014, 08:26 PM
As I have posted elsewhere in this section, I hated firing steam locos, but there was one single day I still regret not being able to fire a steam engine.

My regular drive and I were rostered to work a goods train from Enfield yard to Broadmeadows.

We had a loco inspector working with us as I was to work my first Garratt and the inspector was there to qualify me for 60 class working when I finished the run.

We work a set of 46 class electrics to Gosford, where the electrics were supposed to be replaced with a 60 class.

We pulled into the yard at Gosford but sitting in the Loco siding were two 43 class units ( back to back, unusual and against operating regs for these and 42 class locos ).

Apparently the 60 class failed in Broadmeadows yard and the 43 class were a rush replacement.

This was late 1971 and there were very few firemen passed for the 60 class after this time, so I never got to work one.

drivesafe
3rd September 2014, 11:08 PM
Here is a link to some more pictures of 6029.

https://plus.google.com/photos/102519107727013001716/albums/6044039132115593537/6044039149969989618?banner=pwa&pid=6044039149969989618&oid=102519107727013001716>

isuzutoo-eh
4th September 2014, 01:43 PM
Listen to the big girl sing..
6029 load trial - YouTube

6029 - load trial - September 2014 - YouTube

That's about 550 tonnes on the drawbar apparently. The diesels are there as load and in case something goes wrong. Passengers are only museum members.
Rumour has it there won't be any paying passenger trips this year. Before mainline acceptance, they have to trial the engine to determine working load capacity on a variety of grades, just as if it was a brand new class of locomotive.

Ausfree
4th September 2014, 03:01 PM
Good stuff!!!:clap2::clap2: The 60 class has always been my favourite class of steam loco's. Can hardly wait to see it in the Newcastle area after it's accreditation.:)

disco man
7th September 2014, 02:30 PM
What a majestic sight and the sound is incredible WOW!!! she looks alive a living breathing wonderful engine,those diesel locos just look plain ugly and soulless behind that lovely lady.

I am so jealous of you blokes that got to see or work with this amazing loco,god i wish i was born earlier dam it!!!!!:p

Ausfree
7th September 2014, 06:58 PM
What a majestic sight and the sound is incredible WOW!!! she looks alive a living breathing wonderful engine,those diesel locos just look plain ugly and soulless behind that lovely lady.

I am so jealous of you blokes that got to see or work with this amazing loco,god i wish i was born earlier dam it!!!!!:p
I've mentioned it before, but one of my favourite memories is the Garretts double heading, climbing the Fassifern Bank up through Teralba and Cardiff. This was the late 1960's.There is a U-Tube clip of them that has been shown on here before.:)

disco man
7th September 2014, 07:08 PM
I've mentioned it before, but one of my favourite memories is the Garretts double heading, climbing the Fassifern Bank up through Teralba and Cardiff. This was the late 1960's.There is a U-Tube clip of them that has been shown on here before.:)

Thanks Mr free i will have a look for it,you lucky bugger what a sight that would have been:D

Ausfree
8th September 2014, 09:11 AM
Here 'tis!!!:D When you see it you will have to admit they were a grand sight.:):) What they used to do was load coal at nearby Paxton colliery and then back out onto the main line and from a standing start attack the Fassifern Bank as you see in this clip.:D Note the Garrett with empties going the other way.

60 class Garratts double-head up Fassifern Bank - Winter, 1968 - YouTube

drivesafe
8th September 2014, 10:18 AM
They seem to have been in a pretty sad state of disrepair even as far back a 1968.

But these many steam leaks certainly added to their majestic appearance.

disco man
8th September 2014, 10:24 AM
Awesome Mr free:D Thanks for that:) Probably a stupid question but why is the smoke on the second loco white but the leading loco has very black smoke? Is one working harder that the other?

Ausfree
8th September 2014, 10:25 AM
They seem to have been in a pretty sad state of disrepair even as far back a 1968.

But these many steam leaks certainly added to their majestic appearance.

Only a guess, but maybe as they were near the end of their service life, corners where being cut on maintenance. I would imagine they would be a high maintenance piece of equipment and also they were getting the arse worked off them.:D

Ausfree
8th September 2014, 10:28 AM
Awesome Mr free:D Thanks for that:) Probably a stupid question but why is the smoke on the second loco white but the leading loco has very black smoke? Is one working harder that the other?

Can't answer that as I did not work on steam loco's. just an admirer.:) Maybe Drivesafe can answer that!!

Ausfree
8th September 2014, 10:45 AM
Here's another clip of 6024 double heading with a 53 class loco climbing the Fassifern Bank.:D Wonder which loco would be doing most of the work?????

Sorry it is disabled, won't let me play it but if you go to U-Tube and put in something like "Garretts double heading up Fassifern Bank" you may be able to see it.

disco man
8th September 2014, 11:03 AM
Here's another clip of 6024 double heading with a 53 class loco climbing the Fassifern Bank.:D Wonder which loco would be doing most of the work?????

Sorry it is disabled, won't let me play it but if you go to U-Tube and put in something like "Garretts double heading up Fassifern Bank" you may be able to see it.

Bloody hell the 53 class looks very small in front of the big girl!!!! almost looks like 6024 is pushing the 53 along:D Thanks for finding that one:)

drivesafe
11th September 2014, 07:09 AM
Probably a stupid question but why is the smoke on the second loco white but the leading loco has very black smoke? Is one working harder that the other?

Hi disco man, you get changes in the colour of the smoke as fresh coal is blown into the fire box.

Each time coal is added to the firebox, the steam carries more cinders and goes a darker colour.

If you have a hot enough fire banked up in the firebox, you don’t need to add more coal for a while, so the fire is much cleaner and the steam is whiter.

disco man
13th September 2014, 08:13 AM
Hi disco man, you get changes in the colour of the smoke as fresh coal is blown into the fire box.

Each time coal is added to the firebox, the steam carries more cinders and goes a darker colour.

If you have a hot enough fire banked up in the firebox, you don’t need to add more coal for a while, so the fire is much cleaner and the steam is whiter.

Awesome than you very much.

Fatso
17th September 2014, 03:01 PM
Hi disco man, you get changes in the colour of the smoke as fresh coal is blown into the fire box.

Each time coal is added to the firebox, the steam carries more cinders and goes a darker colour.

If you have a hot enough fire banked up in the firebox, you don’t need to add more coal for a while, so the fire is much cleaner and the steam is whiter.



And also the crew in the lead loco always reckoned the crew in the rear were bludging . lol

Ausfree
17th September 2014, 08:56 PM
In those pre-computer days, how did they work out the load sharing between loco's. Would be hard if you have two different types of loco's double heading.:confused: Maybe they both just pulled like buggery!!!

Fatso
18th September 2014, 06:48 AM
In those pre-computer days, how did they work out the load sharing between loco's. Would be hard if you have two different types of loco's double heading.:confused: Maybe they both just pulled like buggery!!!


As you suggest , when double heading you just drove to the track using track knowledge and give it **** where required , got jerked around a bit when the crew got out of sync sometimes , but when you were in the lead it felt like you were doing all the work !! , bit like being the last guy on a tug o war rope .

460cixy
23rd September 2014, 01:00 PM
Great to see it back on the rails again used to spend a lot of time down at the Canberra sheds mostly before i got a life mostly maintaining/ restoring the beautiful carriages they have.

disco man
23rd September 2014, 02:30 PM
Great to see it back on the rails again used to spend a lot of time down at the Canberra sheds mostly before i got a life mostly maintaining/ restoring the beautiful carriages they have.

Talking about carriages,a little of topic i know,but this morning i was down near the Townsville train station as the Queenslander was pulling in and i was shocked at the condition of the carriages. They look run down and very old with a LOT of dinner plate sized rust bubbles that were blistering the paint.

The important parts are probably well maintained but what you see on the outside is a disgrace.Its a shame to see them in this condition:(

460cixy
23rd September 2014, 03:27 PM
Yeah what's happened to some of these carriages is disgraceful

drivesafe
27th September 2014, 02:57 AM
Here is another good 60 class film clip.

Double headed 60 class Garratts, Fassifern station, 1969. - YouTube

Ausfree
27th September 2014, 08:58 AM
Good stuff^^^^^^^:thumbsup:

disco man
27th September 2014, 10:43 AM
Here is another good 60 class film clip.

Double headed 60 class Garratts, Fassifern station, 1969. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbGe4ktw_94)

Thanks for posting that mate, Only drama is everytime i get on youtube to watch these clips i end up stuck there for the next 2-3 hours !!!!!!

Ausfree
27th September 2014, 11:25 AM
Thanks for posting that mate, Only drama is everytime i get on youtube to watch these clips i end up stuck there for the next 2-3 hours !!!!!!
Yeah, the clips always bring back memories of when I was a young bloke watching them in awe as they passed through Teralba and under the Cockle Creek bridge. When we saw them we always stopped our car and got out to watch them. Nothing comes close nowadays, even the class 90 (impressive as they are) but about 15 (maybe 20) years ago the class 48's double heading up through Cardiff with the two engines diesel motors resonating as they passed under the Cardiff bridge and past the station is probably a distant second place.:D:D

V8Ian
28th September 2014, 10:58 AM
Thanks for posting that mate, Only drama is everytime i get on youtube to watch these clips i end up stuck there for the next 2-3 hours !!!!!!So I'm not Robinson Crusoe. :angel:

Ausfree
29th September 2014, 12:32 PM
I know this Thread is about the Garretts, but I mentioned the 48 class in a previous Thread and here is a clip of the 48 class going 4 up coming up the Fassifern Bank with an 82 class at the rear "banking". It is at just over the two minute mark in the clip.:)

There are other interesting trains there to such as the famous 38 class double heading and a sole 59 class...........-please enjoy...:D:D

FASSIFERN BANK - YouTube

disco man
29th September 2014, 12:39 PM
I know this Thread is about the Garretts, but I mentioned the 48 class in a previous Thread and here is a clip of the 48 class going 4 up coming up the Fassifern Bank with an 82 class at the rear "banking". It is at just over the two minute mark in the clip.:)

There are other interesting trains there to such as the famous 38 class double heading and a sole 59 class...........-please enjoy...:D:D

FASSIFERN BANK - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyK6RuMDCno)

Ya mongrel,that's the rest of the afternoon gone for me!!!!! i click on one than i see another suggestion and then i click on that one,and before i know it it's bloody dinner time LOL :D

Ausfree
29th September 2014, 01:06 PM
Ya mongrel,that's the rest of the afternoon gone for me!!!!! i click on one than i see another suggestion and then i click on that one,and before i know it it's bloody dinner time LOL :D
Heh, heh, I'm a tricky little black duck!!!:twisted:

disco man
29th September 2014, 02:22 PM
Heh, heh, I'm a tricky little black duck!!!:twisted:

You evil bugger:p

isuzutoo-eh
26th November 2014, 09:38 AM
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/11/147.jpg

For those in broad gauge territory...
6029 is earmarked to tour Vic and SA through the end of June and all of July. Possible parallel running with broad gauge steam to be organised too.

disco man
16th December 2014, 12:53 PM
I found this page this morning,some really good footage in the film:)

6029 Garratt Training Trip - CP - Fun & Music Videos (http://www.theclassifiedsplus.com/video/video/8m8NP0WufP4/6029-garratt-training-trip.html)

Tote
12th June 2015, 08:44 PM
A couple of photos taken on Monday as she was coming back from Wagga.

Just east of Galong

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y127/toteau/Trains/IMGP2380_zpsvvja5ooq.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/toteau/media/Trains/IMGP2380_zpsvvja5ooq.jpg.html)


And west of Goondah

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y127/toteau/Trains/IMGP2385_zpsekrbzzx4.jpg (http://s4.photobucket.com/user/toteau/media/Trains/IMGP2385_zpsekrbzzx4.jpg.html)

Regards,
Tote

V8Ian
12th June 2015, 10:35 PM
What a majestic old lady, thanks for the pictures.

Pickles2
13th June 2015, 07:12 AM
SENSATIONAL.
Pickles.

Pedro_The_Swift
13th June 2015, 07:39 AM
why black??
they could have painted it anything,,

and please dont say "they were always black"

Pedro_The_Swift
13th June 2015, 07:43 AM
is the wagon after the garret in use?
or just some form of buffer?

V8Ian
13th June 2015, 08:05 AM
I'd say it's carrying water Pedro, seeing stand-pipes are few and far between these days.

Ausfree
13th June 2015, 09:37 AM
Great shots, thanks for sharing.:D I notice a diesel loco being towed behind 6029, I guess it's there "just in case" as a condition for bringing 6029 onto a main line!!!:D

p38arover
13th June 2015, 11:35 AM
I was at the Lachlan Valley Railway roundhouse at Cowra last week and the chap who showed me around told me the Garrett was going to Junee over the long weekend. However, I was in Echuca over the long weekend. (I visited the Junee Roundhouse the day after Lachlan Valley - I might post some pics in another thread.)

drivesafe
13th June 2015, 12:01 PM
I might post some pics in another thread.)

Not MIGHT post up some pictures.

Your story doesn't hold water till you post up some pictures ;)

Rosco8
13th June 2015, 12:03 PM
Great shots, thanks for sharing.:D I notice a diesel loco being towed behind 6029, I guess it's there "just in case" as a condition for bringing 6029 onto a main line!!!:D
For the shuttles 4501 powered it on the return shuttle.

For the main trip hauling all the carriages 4501 and 4403 were powering up all the hills .. was a large load of carriages.

Great video from Bevan and assume the drone shots from his son, Ross

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHPODZfB3Kg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6q2Tz8wRyw

drivesafe
13th June 2015, 03:59 PM
I am never going to get any work done now.

Great videos Rosco8 and thanks for posting them.

Tote
13th June 2015, 09:54 PM
For the shuttles 4501 powered it on the return shuttle.

For the main trip hauling all the carriages 4501 and 4403 were powering up all the hills .. was a large load of carriages.

snip


Yep, didn't look like 6029 was working very hard, understandable but a little disappointing, although better that it's looked after after all the hard work put in to restore it. there was certainly enough steam for the whistle though, we were waiting a couple of Km from Galong and I reckon we heard the whistle a good 20 minutes before she came into sight.

Regards,
Tote

Don 130
14th June 2015, 08:53 PM
I was in Wagga for the long weekend and on finding the big Garratt was doing shuttles from Wagga station to Bomen and back, I went for a spin. I also shot some footage with my I phone (all I had at the time),but am unable to upload it as it comes up as an invalid file. Anyone got a remedy?
Don

Pickles2
15th June 2015, 09:08 AM
I watched the video,..all of it.
Fantastic, How did you get to all of the different sites to take all the different shots?
I've been to the Junee Roundhouse, & took a picture of Wifey standing on the Turntable. Can't remember what time of year it was, but it was absolutely FREEZING!!
I grew up in Manchester U.K. with Steam engines, and where a large number of Aussie Steam Locos were made,..the Bayer Peacock works was just around the corner from where We lived.
TOP video, thanks, Pickles.

Ausfree
15th June 2015, 11:33 AM
I was in Wagga for the long weekend and on finding the big Garratt was doing shuttles from Wagga station to Bomen and back, I went for a spin. I also shot some footage with my I phone (all I had at the time),but am unable to upload it as it comes up as an invalid file. Anyone got a remedy?
Don

I'm jealous, would love to have been there too. Oh well, (sigh) it'll come to Newcastle one day!!:D

cuppabillytea
23rd June 2015, 04:47 PM
Who did the restoration? I'd love to get up close to a 60 class again.

Tote
23rd June 2015, 05:48 PM
ARHS ACT did the restoration, the link to the restoration page is in the first post

Regards,
Tote

simonmelb
8th September 2015, 08:29 PM
I wonder if Heavy Harry is even bigger?

Heavy Harry waits patiently for plans to get him back on track (http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/heavy-harry-waits-patiently-for-plans-to-get-him-back-on-track-20120708-21pi8.html)

My father who recently passed away, was an apprentice at Newport Railway workshops and once jumped up into the cabin of Harry when he had steam up. Apparrently he did get her to move a bit before the foreman told him off!

Thanks for the great videos.

JDNSW
9th September 2015, 06:26 AM
I wonder if Heavy Harry is even bigger?
....

According to the reference I have to hand (Locomotives of Australia), Heavy Harry is about four tons lighter, and about 8,000lbs less tractive effort. But it ran higher boiler pressure, and had a larger grate. But it was designed as an express locomotive for Melbourne - Adelaide, with bridges to be upgraded to cater for it, where the AD-60 was designed as a heavy freight locomotive with low axle loading to allow use on existing branch lines track without any upgrading. So the two had design briefs that could hardly be more different.

(In the event, largely because of the war, the bridges on the Adelaide route were not upgraded and H220 could never be used for its designed purpose.)

John

Pickles2
9th September 2015, 08:21 AM
According to the reference I have to hand (Locomotives of Australia), Heavy Harry is about four tons lighter, and about 8,000lbs less tractive effort. But it ran higher boiler pressure, and had a larger grate. But it was designed as an express locomotive for Melbourne - Adelaide, with bridges to be upgraded to cater for it, where the AD-60 was designed as a heavy freight locomotive with low axle loading to allow use on existing branch lines track without any upgrading. So the two had design briefs that could hardly be more different.

(In the event, largely because of the war, the bridges on the Adelaide route were not upgraded and H220 could never be used for its designed purpose.)

John
EXCELLENT info.
I've seen "Heavy Harry" in the Williamstown Museum, and stood in the cab,....a pretty big engine!!
But surely, the money to restore such a monster will never be found?....I visited Steamtown at Peterborough last week, and the only thing missing there is some live steam,...but the people I spoke to there said that they had almost zero hope of achieving that,...no expert engineers, workers etc, and NO MONEY to either rebuild, maintain, or run, any live steam?
Pickles.

JDNSW
9th September 2015, 09:00 AM
EXCELLENT info.
I've seen "Heavy Harry" in the Williamstown Museum, and stood in the cab,....a pretty big engine!!
But surely, the money to restore such a monster will never be found?....I visited Steamtown at Peterborough last week, and the only thing missing there is some live steam,...but the people I spoke to there said that they had almost zero hope of achieving that,...no expert engineers, workers etc, and NO MONEY to either rebuild, maintain, or run, any live steam?
Pickles.

But 6029 is steaming. I suspect that the advantage it had is that it lives right in the city with one of the highest average levels of disposable income in the country.

John

Pickles2
9th September 2015, 09:38 AM
But 6029 is steaming. I suspect that the advantage it had is that it lives right in the city with one of the highest average levels of disposable income in the country.

John
Yes, and top job too, I was just saying that the Steamtown guys said that they couldn't see any hope at all of ever achieving that (live steam).
Pickles.

Aaron IIA
9th September 2015, 10:56 AM
They did not that long ago. If only they had remembered to store their locomotive properly when they stopped using it.

Aaron

cuppabillytea
10th September 2015, 01:03 AM
Does any one know of the whereabouts of 6042? The last I saw of it was in Cowra. It was alive and well and housed in a Round House. But that was back in the 70s.
Cheers, Billy.

Pickles2
10th September 2015, 06:50 AM
The Bellarine Railway have one that they are going to restore. One of the Society's members said that it wasn't going to be a lot of work relative to that carried out on some other locos.
Pickles.

JDNSW
10th September 2015, 09:13 AM
The Bellarine Railway have one that they are going to restore. One of the Society's members said that it wasn't going to be a lot of work relative to that carried out on some other locos.
Pickles.

There's a lot more of it! Also a very late design in the history of steam, which probably means a lot of extra bits and pieces that simply did not exist when most were designed.

John

V8Ian
10th September 2015, 09:40 AM
Does any one know of the whereabouts of 6042? The last I saw of it was in Cowra. It was alive and well and housed in a Round House. But that was back in the 70s.
Cheers, Billy.
If anybody here knows, it would probably be Mark (Isuzutoo-eh).

Scouse
10th September 2015, 10:07 AM
6042 is here:
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33.3985169,148.0016988,238m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en

Tote
10th September 2015, 10:37 AM
Yep,
Moved to the Lachlan Vintage Village in the 1970s who then went broke. I believe it is owned by the Dorrigo Rail museum who have left it there.

Regards,
Tote

cuppabillytea
10th September 2015, 02:27 PM
6042 is here:
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33.3985169,148.0016988,238m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en

Thanks for that. A sad sight to see. The LVV was a great idea, which started out with real promise, then fizzled. I didn't think any of the engines would be sent back there.

drivesafe
22nd October 2015, 06:11 PM
For those who may be interested, there is a Railway Calendar for 2016, on sale at newsagents.

The front cover is a great picture of 6029.

Pedro_The_Swift
23rd October 2015, 05:58 AM
6042 is here:
https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33.3985169,148.0016988,238m/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en

so sad:(