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incisor
12th August 2014, 08:31 AM
Robin Williams dead: Beloved actor-comedian found dead in California home, aged 63 - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-12/robin-williams-dead/5664414)

world wont be the same....

Gerokent
12th August 2014, 08:44 AM
Another victim of the black dog. RIP Mork.

Chucaro
12th August 2014, 08:45 AM
That is a really very sad news, R.P.I. Robin :(

bob10
12th August 2014, 09:18 AM
He's joined his good mate, John Belushi. Some where, they will have them rolling in the aisles, Bob

Bobeland
12th August 2014, 09:24 AM
This news has made me very sad. What a loss to the worlds humor! :(

Ean Austral
12th August 2014, 09:24 AM
Sad , very sad. Just shows depression doesn't discriminate, it can affect anyone.


Cheers Ean

jerryd
12th August 2014, 09:28 AM
That was a shock to the system when I switched on the internet :eek:, how very sad :(

R.I.P. Robin Williams

Redback
12th August 2014, 09:29 AM
Aaah crap, how bloody sad.

R.I..P Robin, you will be missed.

Baz.

frantic
12th August 2014, 10:15 AM
It's a great loss to the world. A true comedic and acting genius.
R.I.P. Robin Williams.:(

harro
12th August 2014, 10:32 AM
A Dead Poet in A F***** Society.

What a huge loss to humanity.
He saw the world too clearly and paid the price.

RIP Robin and Carpe diem to one and all.
Life is far to short.


Paul.

DiscoMick
12th August 2014, 10:51 AM
Its certainly very sad. Highly intelligent, very creative, sometimes inspiring, often funny. It just shows the black side of being so creative. What a pity he could not find some true peace in his life.

Lotz-A-Landies
12th August 2014, 11:11 AM
:BigCry:

Mork's gone back to Ork!

You will be missed!

:BigCry:

Disco Muppet
12th August 2014, 03:23 PM
Couldn't believe it.
Great loss :(

FeatherWeightDriver
12th August 2014, 04:07 PM
The black dog gives us another sad day :(

Help can be found at beyondblue
(http://www.beyondblue.org.au/)

Ausfree
12th August 2014, 04:37 PM
A very intelligent, witty and funny man. Alas, a victim of the black dog. Indeed he will be missed!!!!:(

ps. I seem to remember another comedian Garry McDonald alias Norman Gunstan was also a victim of depression. He seems to be holding up, fortunately, but Norman Gunstan will never be resurrected.

UncleHo
12th August 2014, 04:59 PM
Yes, very sad,but not helped by his battle with "Nose Powder" aka Coke :(

Kev the Fridgy
12th August 2014, 08:00 PM
You know the sooner some in todays society stop making men feel like they are second class because of this horrible illness that has taken another man who stood tall through lifes dark days the sooner we can help all those that suffer.......Trust me, I know how he felt .......

God rest his beautiful soul

d2dave
12th August 2014, 08:08 PM
A very sad day indeed. This man has had me in stitches at times. A big loss to comedy and movies.

RIP Robin Wiliams.

benji
12th August 2014, 08:13 PM
Having had family members suffer from the same thing, mental illness is the saddest thing in the world.
He will most surely be missed.

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Bytemrk
12th August 2014, 08:21 PM
In my view there are not many in the entertainment industry that truly deserve respect....

Sadly there is now one less....


The statistics tell us that many of us here will have had personal experience with this horrible condition...... do everything you can to find the good in every day....

Cobber
12th August 2014, 09:05 PM
Absolutely gutted by this :( a massive talent gone :(

DiscoKym
12th August 2014, 10:24 PM
RIP to a great man and comedian.

Last one I watched and remember him by..

Robin Williams on Golf

Caution contains funny swear words!

clubagreenie
13th August 2014, 09:33 AM
"Mork & Mindy: In Mork We Trust (#1.21)" (1979)


Orson: The report, Mork.


Mork: This week I discovered a terrible disease called loneliness.


Orson: Do many people on Earth suffer from this disease?


Mork: Oh yes sir, and how they suffer. One man I know suffers so much he has to take a medication called bourbon, even that doesn't help very much because then he can hear paint dry.


Orson: Does bed rest help?


Mork: No because I've heard that sleeping alone is part of the problem. You see, Orson, loneliness is a disease of the spirit. People who have it think that no one cares about them.


Orson: Do you have any idea why?


Mork: Yes sir you can count on me. You see, when children are young, they're told not to talk to strangers. When they go to school, they're told not to talk to the person next to them. Finally when they're very old, they're told not to talk to themselves, who's left?


Orson: Are you saying Earthlings make each other lonely?


Mork: No sir I'm saying just the opposite. They make themeslves lonely, they're so busy looking out for number one that there's not enough room for two.


Orson: It's too bad everybody down there can't get together and find a cure.


Mork: Here's the paradox sir because if they did get together, they wouldn't need one.

Tombie
13th August 2014, 10:11 AM
This has hit my family a bit harder than some, as my Aunty is/was friends with Robin and his family.

A man of exceptional character, haunted by his thoughts.

He brought a light into a room with his humour and observations of the world.

R.I.P Robin...

weeds
13th August 2014, 11:31 AM
Sad day indeed.........

What annoys me is it takes a celebrity to die for free promotion of help groups......normally the likes of beyond blue have to spends 10's of thousands $$$'s in advertising.

clubagreenie
14th August 2014, 09:08 AM
So in reflection, what hope do those of us left have when someone like him, having the resources, backing and friends cannot get through.

Cliffy
14th August 2014, 01:21 PM
Never met him, never saw him live and yet I feel I (we) have lost something so special I doubt we will see his likes again in 1000 years.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-HDwlXMWAhg

zulu Delta 534
14th August 2014, 04:05 PM
He definitely was a good entertainer I must admit, but personally I feel a little bit robbed every time I hear his version of "Good Morning Vietnam" being aired constantly as one if his trade marks.
I listened to the original Adrian Cronauer on AFR every morning (except Tuesdays - That was Radio Australia time) back in the 1960s and I hold a damn sight more respect for that man than any actor who attempts to depict him, however well the depiction.
I admit that he will be missed in some circles and I feel for his direct family as they are now the ones left to handle the results of whatever it was that lead him to take his own life.
Before I bear the brunt of the inevitable flak and lectures on the results of depression etc, from all the "recognised help groups", let me remind some of you that every day I have a lot of personal contact with many Vietnam Vets and mates, and their widowed wives who are living with massive personal problems day to day, through one or three of the Associations I am involved with, and having had to deal with some of those "left behind" I believe suicide to be an extremely selfish "easy way" out.
Those left behind, the wives, parents, kids or whoever, are the ones who bear the brunt and as a result of having seen this only too often I cannot bring myself to honour someone who has taken this cowardly way out.
As an entertainer, (that is one who could entertain others), I respect him, but for what he finally did I am afraid any respect I may have had has well and truly been nullified.
Regards
Glen

brenno
14th August 2014, 05:55 PM
He definitely was a good entertainer I must admit, but personally I feel a little bit robbed every time I hear his version of "Good Morning Vietnam" being aired constantly as one if his trade marks.
I listened to the original Adrian Cronauer on AFR every morning (except Tuesdays - That was Radio Australia time) back in the 1960s and I hold a damn sight more respect for that man than any actor who attempts to depict him, however well the depiction.
I admit that he will be missed in some circles and I feel for his direct family as they are now the ones left to handle the results of whatever it was that lead him to take his own life.
Before I bear the brunt of the inevitable flak and lectures on the results of depression etc, from all the "recognised help groups", let me remind some of you that every day I have a lot of personal contact with many Vietnam Vets and mates, and their widowed wives who are living with massive personal problems day to day, through one or three of the Associations I am involved with, and having had to deal with some of those "left behind" I believe suicide to be an extremely selfish "easy way" out.
Those left behind, the wives, parents, kids or whoever, are the ones who bear the brunt and as a result of having seen this only too often I cannot bring myself to honour someone who has taken this cowardly way out.
As an entertainer, (that is one who could entertain others), I respect him, but for what he finally did I am afraid any respect I may have had has well and truly been nullified.
Regards
Glen

R.I.P - Robin Williams

I'll restrain myself from saying what I'm thinking about your drivel... I will however offer that you should possibly have your say in a different thread than one that remembers a lost (and now gone but not forgotten) soul. Someone that has touched literally millions (possibly billions) of people through a talent and compassion that only comes along very scarcely in life.

Whatever your thoughts/beliefs on suicide (and I have my own), they don't belong in this thread, and nor does the self promotion you've displayed.

bob10
14th August 2014, 09:27 PM
I think we should cut Zulu Delta 534 some slack. I know where he is coming from. I can understand how he feels. Some one who hasn't been there, done that can never understand. Much the same as we can't understand why Robyn Williams did what he did. Williams was a great entertainer, but that is what he was ,no more, no less. He had a great talent, and will be missed. Bob

incisor
15th August 2014, 07:07 AM
brenno, your entitled to have a differing opinion but i will not tolerate personal attacks on other members.

the behavior is unacceptable.

clubagreenie
15th August 2014, 07:13 AM
I believe suicide to be an extremely selfish "easy way" out.

Said no one with depression ever.


I feel a little bit robbed every time I hear his version of "Good Morning Vietnam" being aired constantly as one if his trade marks.

How many people would know the Cronauer name today if it wasn't for the movie?

bob10
15th August 2014, 08:44 AM
Said no one with depression ever.



How many people would know the Cronauer name today if it wasn't for the movie?


I agree with the first comment, and as for the second, the many thousands of Veterans who served there, along with the Stars & Stripes,[ edit, a military newspaper] and all the other little memories that take you back. It may have been insensitive for Zulu Delta to post his thoughts in this thread, but spare a thought for a man who deals with shattered men and their families, on a regular basis. I tried it once, but just couldn't handle it. I have nothing but respect for people trying to put those shattered lives back together.
I also know the aftermath of suicide, having been involved twice. Just a thought, Zulu Delta would be involved in helping veterans from the Vietnam, Timor, Iraq, & Afghanistan conflicts. Bob




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Adrian Cronauer, left, shown in a 1987 photo, talks with Army Times about actor and comedian Robin Williams, who portrayed Cronauer in the 1987 movie "Good Morning Vietnam."(Photo: Charles Krupa, AP)




Actor Robin Williams, who died on Monday, got his breakout movie role in "Good Morning Vietnam," a fictionalized account of Adrian Cronauer's stint in Vietnam (http://www.militarytimes.com/article/20140812/NEWS/308120055/Airman-portrayed-by-Robin-Williams-reacts-actor-s-death) as an Air Force disc jockey.
The movie took many historical liberties. In the movie, Williams' character becomes friends with a Vietnamese boy who turns out to be a Viet Cong terrorist. Eventually, the fictional Adrian Cronauer is forced to leave Vietnam before the end of his tour. None of which happened in real life.
"Those of you who have been in the military know that if I had done stuff that Robin Williams did in that movie, I'd still be in Leavenworth," Cronauer told the American Veterans Center during its 2008 conference.
But Cronauer, who left the Air Force as a sergeant in 1966, said he has no issues with Williams' performance in the movie.
"It was never intended to be a point-by point accurate biography," he told Military Times on Tuesday. "It was intended to be a piece of entertainment, and it certainly was that. It was nominated for an Academy Award and you don't get much better than that."
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USATODAY
Robin Williams' death leaves Hollywood, fans stunned

(http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2014/08/12/robin-williams-death-leaves-world-stunned/13947643/)


In an interview on Tuesday, Cronauer reflected on his memories of the late actor and the movie that made Williams a bona fide movie star.
Q: What was your reaction to news of Robin Williams' death?
Answer: There's a British phrase that I've heard that describes it: "Gobsmacked."
It just hit me. The guy was only 63 years old. I suppose for someone who's 20, that seems like he's older than Methuselah, but for me in my 70s, I think that's still a young age and he should have had a lot more to do.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/08/917.jpgActor Robin Williams in character as Air Force disc-jockey Adrian Cronauer in director Barry Levinson's 1987comedy drama, "Good Morning Vietnam."(Photo: AP/Touchstone Pictures)

Q: What do you think the movie did for the portrayal of service members in the Vietnam War?
First of all, as far as I know, it's the first film that began to show Americans in Vietnam as they really were instead of a bunch of murderers and rapists and baby-killers and dope addicts and psychotics. That was sorely needed at the time.
Q: Did you interact with Williams?
No, the director Barry Levinson deliberately kept us apart. He was afraid that if Robin and I met, that Robin would somehow start to do an unconscious imitation of me, which would change his characterization. So we were kept deliberately apart all through the filming until the film was supposed to premiere in New York.
Robin and I were introduced before the film was shown. We shook hands and he said, "Well, I'm glad to finally meet you." And I said, "Well, I'm glad to finally meet me, too." We got along fine after that.
We exchanged Christmas cards and in 1991 his wife at the time, Marsha, invited 200 or 300 of his very closest friends to California to celebrate his 40th birthday. His mother was the star of the show because she was already in her 80s. She had to leave early because she had a hot date that night. So the apple didn't fall too far from the tree.
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USATODAY
Celebrating Robin Williams' great life and career

(http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2014/08/11/celebrating-robin-williams-great-career/13928261/)


Q: Do you have a memory of Williams that stands out, that shows what kind of a person he was?
I have a memory of Robin, but it doesn't show what he was because he was always on. When you walked up to him and said, "Hello," he started doing a routine for you. The only time my wife and I ever saw him let that down was one time when he was playing with his little kids.
They are, you see, no threat to him. It's unconditional love. That allowed him to let down the facade a little bit.
He obviously loved (his daughter) Zelda. She wrapped him around her little finger — only 5 years old, but she did it.
Q: What do you feel should be included in this story given your unique relationship with Williams?
He and I are politically way far from each other but I enjoyed very much knowing that he was going over to Afghanistan, to Iraq to various places in the Middle East — that he was going over there to entertain the troops.
Regardless of what he felt like politically, he recognized the fact nobody seemed to recognize during Vietnam, which was that there's a difference between the people who are making the policy and the people who are carrying out that policy, the military

Chucaro
15th August 2014, 01:39 PM
Koko the Gorilla Mourns Her Friend, Robin Williams

bob10
15th August 2014, 04:27 PM
It has been reported Williams was diagnosed with the onset of Parkinsons disease. As with any one, this would have played on his mind. He would have seen the effect of the disease on Cassius Clay. Not hard to understand why he did what he did. Me? I'd go for a long swim. Bob

sheerluck
15th August 2014, 04:42 PM
It has been reported Williams was diagnosed with the onset of Parkinsons disease. As with any one, this would have played on his mind. He would have seen the effect of the disease on Cassius Clay. Not hard to understand why he did what he did. Me? I'd go for a long swim. Bob

I agree Bob. Doesn't make it much easier on his family and friends, but I think it is now easier to appreciate his state of mind. Not at all related to a drug or drink bender, or pending poverty, but the start of a wasting disease with no known cure.

Chucaro
15th August 2014, 04:42 PM
I remember very well my dad, when he started to loose control of his body he went to bed and did not want to get up, he just said that he lost his willing to live and prefer terminate his life :(
It is one of the hardest thing that the sick person and the love ones can go trough.
We managed to convince him that he was going to be able to keep writing his primary industry economy articles on the newspaper form his lounge chair but soon the dictator government put stop to it.
It was like if you chop the fingers to a piano player :(
I better stop, my eyes are wet..................

Beckford
15th August 2014, 06:49 PM
So in reflection, what hope do those of us left have when someone like him, having the resources, backing and friends cannot get through.

He lived with the black dog for 60 years. Far too many do not make it past 20 or 30. From what I have read be battled his own demons for years but still kept making others happy with his hummor.

His story has created real discussion around the black dog in the media, unlike many other actors before him. Now that is hope.

Anyone needing hope is welcome to PM me.

BMKal
15th August 2014, 06:57 PM
This is all a pretty moving issue in our family at the moment.

My wife is currently down in Tassie in the same town where Arthur lives - her young 15 year old nephew committed suicide last week. Funeral was Tuesday just gone.

While I can maybe understand some people taking this path later in their life, particularly if they are starting to move into other health issues, I simply can't understand why a 15 year old would do this. It has left a lot of grief for those he leaves behind.

RIP Robin and Jordan.

clubagreenie
16th August 2014, 03:39 PM
So it seems that he'd recently been diagnosed with Parkinsons. Plus he WAS sober at the TOD.

Which makes it more understandable. While prople do continue to live and function through the early stages an on there can be the thought of being a burden on those who remain to care and finally not being able to function, being trapped with one's mind functional but physically being unable to to continue.

Michael J Fox continued to act through his early and mid stage of Parkinsons and continues to do voiceover work. It's not made clear what stage he was but he clearly wasn't comfortable with what it meant for his and his families future.

And best wishes and condolences to BMKal & your family.

bob10
16th August 2014, 04:09 PM
There are a lot of caring people on this forum. I feel good to be part of it. BMkal, I feel your pain. There is no rational explanation , just the word, Why. Bob

Bundalene
16th August 2014, 05:15 PM
This is all a pretty moving issue in our family at the moment.

My wife is currently down in Tassie in the same town where Arthur lives - her young 15 year old nephew committed suicide last week. Funeral was Tuesday just gone.

While I can maybe understand some people taking this path later in their life, particularly if they are starting to move into other health issues, I simply can't understand why a 15 year old would do this. It has left a lot of grief for those he leaves behind.

RIP Robin and Jordan.

Brian,

So sorry to hear about your wife's nephew...such a young age, and as you said, those left behind suffer terrible grief.

Our extended family lost a young friend to suicide last year, a bit older than Jordan, but still a young man. His family and friends are still suffering terribly from their loss, and will for very many years to come. He was such a happy young man who seemed to be really enjoying life. Why? He had so many mates he could have gone to, but chose not to do this.

So very sad. Those suffering depression must find themselves in a very dark place indeed.

All the best mate, and again, condolences .

Erich & Sheila