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whatthe
14th August 2014, 04:19 PM
Looking into buying one of the Land rovers that are currently for sale in the NSW Minto Auction.

Just a couple of questions

I was hoping someone could explain and tell me more about this (see attachment) this MOD plate?

What does it mean what should I be looking out for so on.
When I look at the military service books, what should I be looking for?

All these auction landrovers look the same to me, apart from the general basic inspections. I'm not sure how to tell a good one from the rest.?

Also whats the difference between a

Eg:- Land Rover 110 4X4 Cargo Soft Top 10/1988 and Land Rover 110 4X4 FFR Soft Top 11/1988

as listed Buy Military Online - Promotions - GraysOnline Australia (http://www.graysonline.com/promotions/military'tab=items&sort=close-time-asc)

Thanks for any and all help
Paul

Mick_Marsh
14th August 2014, 04:35 PM
That is a modification plate. When a modification is made to the vehicle, the corresponding number on the plate is defaced.

Oh, a cargo is a base model variant. There are other variants such as RFSV.
FFR means it is fitted for radio. i.e. it has (amongst other things) a 24V power distribution system for powering a radio. The vehicle still operates a 12V system.

dingsy
14th August 2014, 04:51 PM
Do the Cargo GS's have shorter wheel arch boxes than the FFR? It looks like they may but i can't be sure from the photos.

DeeJay
14th August 2014, 04:54 PM
Most people rush in & get an ordinary one where as, if you research first, you can buy a much better one for the same money.
One of the members on here has produced a buying guide that takes the guesswork out of the process. I found it well worth the price, you might get it in time.
Here is the link. What you need is the $47.50 guide.
buymilitaryvehicles.com (http://www.buymilitaryvehicles.com/)


Good Luck,
David

dingsy
14th August 2014, 05:54 PM
One thing worth noting is that the cargo has a rear tailgate whereas the FFR does not. The FFR seems more popular on these forums due to the second alternator and side storage compartments but a rear tailgate may be more important to you depending on your needs. I'd prefer a cargo with a winch if I was allowed another.

Barefoot Dave
14th August 2014, 06:50 PM
G'Day Paul. Welcome to AULRO.
As stated above, the Mod(ification) plate is a record of approved modifications that can't be lost or damaged by water, unlike the GM120 Service Record (Log) book.
From this plate I can tell you it is a Truck, Cargo, Lightweight (4x4 GS/ troop carrier), without winch.
It is up to date with all required safety and general improvement mods bar fitment of the Windscreen washer nozzle guard. Hardly a deal breaker.

I can also tell you that it has been through a full assessment/ rebuild process. They aren't rebuilt from top to toe and they usually have pretty average bodies and paint. However, all the expensive stuff underneath has been checked and repaired/ replaced if necessary.
This knowledge is all in my Buyers Guide and a whole lot more. The mod plate decoder charts run to 6 pages alone.
The Guide does just that, guides you through the process of deciding/ selecting/ inspecting/ maintaining and improving the Perenties.
I wrote the book because, as an ex-serviceman and operator, I was tired of all the rubbish and mis-information about the vehicles.


PS,Deejay, thanks for the Recommendation.

whatthe
14th August 2014, 07:22 PM
Thanks guys.

I'm really after a hard top version. However when they do come up for auction so will every man and his dog.

So I will take a soft top, if the price is right. Whats the average price the last batch where selling for at auction (NSW/Minto).

With so many coming on to the market now and so many buyers almost selling them on straight away. The price must start to drop eventually.

I also think it may be worth getting it private, avoid the buyers 6% and it may even have small things like door locks fitted already hehe. Just a thought, again depends on the auction prices.

Thanks for the info

whatthe
14th August 2014, 07:26 PM
G'Day Paul. Welcome to AULRO.
As stated above, the Mod(ification) plate is a record of approved modifications that can't be lost or damaged by water, unlike the GM120 Service Record (Log) book.
From this plate I can tell you it is a Truck, Cargo, Lightweight (4x4 GS/ troop carrier), without winch.
It is up to date with all required safety and general improvement mods bar fitment of the Windscreen washer nozzle guard. Hardly a deal breaker.

I can also tell you that it has been through a full assessment/ rebuild process. They aren't rebuilt from top to toe and they usually have pretty average bodies and paint. However, all the expensive stuff underneath has been checked and repaired/ replaced if necessary.
This knowledge is all in my Buyers Guide and a whole lot more. The mod plate decoder charts run to 6 pages alone.
The Guide does just that, guides you through the process of deciding/ selecting/ inspecting/ maintaining and improving the Perenties.
I wrote the book because, as an ex-serviceman and operator, I was tired of all the rubbish and mis-information about the vehicles.


PS,Deejay, thanks for the Recommendation.


Thanks BareFoot, I like the idea of all the "expensive" stuff being chucked and replaced.. Maybe that's the one I will keep my eye on. If I can remember which one it is now.
God help you if you drop your wallet in the back off one during inspection. Now which camo landrover was it again.

LandroverScott
17th August 2014, 05:59 PM
HI,

My advice would be to buy Dave's guide and monitor the next couple of auctions working through the inspections with the guide in your hand, gain some knowledge and get used to looking at them, then when the next auction comes up pick the one you want put a value on it and see how you go, if it goes over your limit try again the next auction.

In my opinion most are not sold on but kept, there has been over 500 sold so far, > 1500 to go, but I think the price has settled down and wont go much lower.

I've bought two, so have a bit of an idea.

Be careful there are some real bad ones that aren't worth going near.......

regards
Scott

4x4 MORE
11th September 2014, 07:56 PM
I too am thinking of buying one in the current auction:)

4x4 MORE
13th September 2014, 01:12 PM
Hi guys I don't have the money or time to purchase an ex army 110 right now at the current auction..:(


So just wondering does anyone know how many are left for the army to sell?

LandroverScott
16th September 2014, 06:24 PM
Hi guys I don't have the money or time to purchase an ex army 110 right now at the current auction..:(


So just wondering does anyone know how many are left for the army to sell?

read my post two prior to the one you just put up, the answer is there

Why are you asking so many of the same questions in so many different posts, it's getting annoying especially if as you say you don't have the money to buy one now, read through all the posts in the coil sprung military vehicle section then if you don't get your answer ask a sensible one!

4x4 MORE
17th September 2014, 04:48 PM
I have done some more reading since my last post.. Plenty of time and Land rovers to sell yet

I apologize:o

LandroverScott
17th September 2014, 08:57 PM
I have done some more reading since my last post.. Plenty of time and Land rovers to sell yet

I apologize:o

no dramas, have a good read through the different threads, there is more info than you'll ever need!

regards

4x4 MORE
18th September 2014, 06:57 PM
One thing I don't understand is the differences in specs between models..:confused:

file:///G:/2014%20History%20term%204/Unit%202%20SWD/ALDs/Project%20Perentie.pdf

LandroverScott
18th September 2014, 10:14 PM
One thing I don't understand is the differences in specs between models..:confused:

file:///G:/2014%20History%20term%204/Unit%202%20SWD/ALDs/Project%20Perentie.pdf

OK go to The Registry of Ex Military Land Rovers. Australia, New Zealand and elsewhere. (http://www.remlr.com/)

and then select Land ROver 110 Perentie on the left menu and go for it!

4x4 MORE
19th September 2014, 12:31 PM
cheers:)

Thanks very much for your patience:cool:

I have looked through that site..could't find info on why the difference in off road sats..

LandroverScott
19th September 2014, 09:05 PM
cheers:)

Thanks very much for your patience:cool:

I have looked through that site..could't find info on why the difference in off road sats..

Ok so you will need to ask specific questions

BadCo.
13th October 2014, 05:01 PM
Did you seriously just post that in four different threads?

LandroverScott
13th October 2014, 08:58 PM
nearly all of them have very average paint..all are dull and nothing to write home about..

How ever all of the interiors looked great and clean and shiny

Hi,

Yes paint is supposed to be dull part of the disruptive pattern and low visual effect

Shiny inside because there is heaps of armourall on it

4x4 MORE
14th October 2014, 07:32 AM
Ahh ok..how do people make it look better on the outside, paint, wheel arch flares ect?

I have heard that some people use a kind of oil or something?:confused:

BadCo.
14th October 2014, 08:11 AM
Ahh ok..how do people make it look better on the outside, paint, wheel arch flares ect?

I have heard that some people use a kind of oil or something?:confused:

Lanolin Spray+rag+elbow grease. Give the truck a wash first.

Lanolin is sheep wool oil.

4x4 MORE
15th October 2014, 02:07 PM
Wow..does that only work on camo paint work or matt paint jobs too?:confused:

BadCo.
15th October 2014, 02:13 PM
Wow..does that only work on camo paint work or matt paint jobs too?:confused:

The camo is matt/flat/lusterless/faded

BadCo.
15th October 2014, 02:19 PM
Here is an example, the door has been done. Not the difference between the edges around the door.

4x4 MORE
15th October 2014, 09:26 PM
Ah ok..never heard of this before..the paint must soak up the oil or something?:confused:

JDNSW
16th October 2014, 05:28 AM
Ah ok..never heard of this before..the paint must soak up the oil or something?:confused:
Yes. The finish is matte due to a surface that is "rough" on a microscopic scale. That roughness will hold a suitable liquid. Lanolin will not evaporate easily and so remains there longer.

Similar to a used car yard trick I was introduced to about fifty years ago - washing a car in kerosine will leave it shiny, at least long enough for the sucker to drive away.

John

4x4 MORE
16th October 2014, 07:21 AM
Thanks for that mate, much appreciated!:)