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Tikka7mm08
17th August 2014, 06:16 PM
As the title says...a close one tonight. In the process of painting my 90s boost alloys black and putting the rear back on. Was jacking up with factory jack in the rear right slot. Had a axel stand underneath and the wheel leaning in under the arch ready for fitting.
Gave it a final couple of turns for height and in slow motion the truck rolled forward. The jack went forward to and got push against the rear panel leaving a dent - couldve been a hole. Axel stand was now in the wrong place and the only thing saving it was the wheel holding it off the ground.
Handbrake was on but not in gear. Bent the rod on the jack as in the photo. Pretty angry with myself and off to get a decent floor jack tomorrow.
Managed to use my hi-lift jack off my Series 3 to lift everything up but wondering what others use if not factory that doesnt take up much room in a 90?
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx251/Tikka7mm08/20140817_201629_zpsbtkqrjlk.jpg (http://s761.photobucket.com/user/Tikka7mm08/media/20140817_201629_zpsbtkqrjlk.jpg.html)
Tombie
17th August 2014, 06:25 PM
Don't blame the jack :)
Your first 2 errors!
1. No wheel chocks up front
2. Handbrake AND CDL on to make the brakes hold the front wheels!
Glad nothing major went wrong, although the dent would be frustrating!
Tikka7mm08
17th August 2014, 06:29 PM
Yep...angry with myself...should know better. CDL in...bugger.
firsttracks
17th August 2014, 07:29 PM
I've been hunting for a decent jack for ages, found trade tools have a 3ton trolley jack, for 200 bucks which is the cheapest I found. Its also 50 kilos! But there's no stuffing around under the car anymore with bottle jacks.
landy
17th August 2014, 09:47 PM
I bought a Supacheap trolley jack about 10 years ago. It's still going strong. I think its a 5 ton or something like that. It cost around $100 on one of the sale weekends I think.
I don't think I'd trust it if I was still in the trade and using everyday, but it's fine for what I use it for. 
Cheers,
Nino.
Tikka7mm08
18th August 2014, 02:36 PM
Better... got a Powerbuilt trolley jack from Repco for $110:
http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx251/Tikka7mm08/20140818_123020_zps2tq1jbx4.jpg (http://s761.photobucket.com/user/Tikka7mm08/media/20140818_123020_zps2tq1jbx4.jpg.html)
FeatherWeightDriver
18th August 2014, 05:00 PM
Don't blame the jack :)
Your first 2 errors!
1. No wheel chocks up front
2. Handbrake AND CDL on to make the brakes hold the front wheels!
Glad nothing major went wrong, although the dent would be frustrating!
I know I am going to regret asking this after someone explains it to me and the answer is obvious, but here goes... :angel:
Why does the CDL matter in this scenario?
austastar
18th August 2014, 07:14 PM
Hi,
     Handbrake locks on to the drive shaft, not a pair of wheels. 
CDL locks the connection to 2 wheels on the axle you have not lifted, and these are connected to the engine, so will have some resistance to rotation.
Cheers
JDNSW
18th August 2014, 08:01 PM
To expand on the last post:- 
With the hand brake operating on the driveshaft, as soon as you lift a rear wheel off the ground, the differential on the rear axle allows the other rear wheel to turn. Similarly, the differential in the transfer case allows the front wheels to turn relative to the handbrake unless this centre differential is locked (not possible on some D2s) or the gearbox (and transfer case) is in gear. (This applies to all Landrovers with transmission handbrakes i.e. all except Freelanders, late Rangerovers and D3/4)
It is generally considered good practice in any case to chock at least one other wheel, preferably the diagonally opposite one, when raising a vehicle, even if there is not a transmission handbrake.
John
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