NO SNORKEL

[voltron]

Im curious if I am the only one who hasn't yet fitted a snorkel to my Defender.

The reason being is that they aren't cheap and I keep telling myself the money is better spent on other Mods as I dont see myself flooding my car anytime soon.

Am I missing something, does the snorkel serve a more important purpose then what I think it does. I will get around to it eventually but not any time soon.

Cheers.

[benji]

On dusty roads you'll get cleaner air up there. But that's about it. .I think.

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[FeatherWeightDriver]

I don't have one. It is on the list, but where it is on the list depends on how I am viewing my to do list on any particular day... ;)

It is on the want list for looks primarily, sure you get cleaner air but I can swap a lot of air filters for the price of a snorkle.

As for water, unless the system is sealed the engine will eat water anyway, but that's moot for me as I'm paranoid about water crossings and mud so should never be in anything vaguely approaching dangerous levels.

[pannawonica]

BAS UK recon that a RAI will cost you about ten BHP. Not sure if that is at the crank or wheels. Make sense when you think about it, however it was quite a surprise that it was that much. I will effect economy.:D

[voltron]

BAS UK recon that a RAI will cost you about ten BHP. Not sure if that is at the crank or wheels. Make sense when you think about it, however it was quite a surprise that it was that much. I will effect economy.:D

Cost or gain?

In the grand scheme of things, I don't consider 10bhp to be that much. But when I want power I want bag loads of it. Greedy I guess:D

[TeamFA]

BAS UK recon that a RAI will cost you about ten BHP. Not sure if that is at the crank or wheels. Make sense when you think about it, however it was quite a surprise that it was that much. I will effect economy.:D

That's surprising. I would have thought the extra length of air travel would result in negligible loss of airflow - or is the intake surface area substantially smaller than that of the stock air intake?

[Wildcard8]

Cost or gain?

In the grand scheme of things, I don't consider 10bhp to be that much. But when I want power I want bag loads of it. Greedy I guess:D

10 BHP aint much in normal cars, but its 10% of a defenders output!

[FeatherWeightDriver]

10 BHP aint much in normal cars, but its 10% of a defenders output!

isn't 10% of nothing still nothing?!?! :angel::wasntme:

I wonder why it is that much though, unless the snorkel is narrowest part of the air intake system then why is is having such an impact?

[Tombie]

Will also depend on which snorkel I would suggest!

[PAT303]

I bought mine to get the intake away from the dust,I have no intention of going into water. Pat

[Didge]

I've got one cos it was there when I bought the car but I wouldn't bother now unless I was heading to the Cape - not many water crossings you come across where it would pay for itself. Yeah, I know you can find them but there really aren't that many around. :)

[cripesamighty]

I've always installed them, mostly for the dust factor.

[dawsey]

I havent got 1,,probably will down the the track sometime..best add on I think is a front bar of some sort..looking at all the nicks and scratches all over it from scrub and branches and whatever I've hit along the way..certainly saved the paint on the front of the defender.

[weeds]

I have a snorkel but I'm don't convinced you get cleaner air.....in theory yes but it's marginal.

When you pass somebody I the opposite direction there ain't much difference in air quality between 500mm off the ground to 1800mm off the ground. The air is pretty thick with dust.

[jasonedu]

RVR110 probably has got some views on this one as things don't always go according to plan...

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/49826-show-us-your-deefers-post1432486.html#post1432486

[ian4002000]

I just fitted a snorkel to my 130 , not for water but mainly to fit a precleaner when going on dusty trips. Precleaners save my tractor air filters from huge amounts of debri and the amount of dirt you clean out is awesome.
I will buy one of the new spinning ones rather than a standard precleaner and see what effect it has

[RVR110]

RVR110 probably has got some views on this one as things don't always go according to plan...

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/49826-show-us-your-deefers-post1432486.html#post1432486Hi Jason - long time no see!
Yep - that car was 4 months old when that happened and I hadn't yet gotten down to "Snorkel" on my to-do list. The insurance company wrote it off. You may notice from my position on the track that I was trying to be conservative and tried to drive around the puddle rather than through it. I just chose the wrong side. Nowadays I will either check the depth or be the 2nd car through :angel:

Funnily enough, both of the Defenders that I've bought since then have come with a Snorkel and an Ex-Box... and Mrs RVR110 wouldn't have it any other way!

[alanw]

Have to agree with Ian - and a bit puzzled why others have not mentioned it - but if you want cleaner air from a snorkel then the most important thing is a centrifugal pre cleaner on top. This can filter out an enormous amount of crud.
Very few snorkels have them any more - with the emphasis being on appearance - not function.

[Tombie]

Have to agree with Ian - and a bit puzzled why others have not mentioned it - but if you want cleaner air from a snorkel then the most important thing is a centrifugal pre cleaner on top. This can filter out an enormous amount of crud.
Very few snorkels have them any more - with the emphasis being on appearance - not function.


Correction...

RAI should consider a pre-cleaner

Snorkel is as it's name suggests - for breathing under water :)

[PAT303]

Have to agree with Ian - and a bit puzzled why others have not mentioned it - but if you want cleaner air from a snorkel then the most important thing is a centrifugal pre cleaner on top. This can filter out an enormous amount of crud.
Very few snorkels have them any more - with the emphasis being on appearance - not function.

Mantec has the cyclone top,so it should too considering the price. Pat

[Rurover]

Re fitting a pre-cleaner.
Not sure how good the Uni-Filter pre-cleaner is but it's simple to fit and it works with just about any snorkel.
4x4 Pre-Cleaners (http://www.uniflow.com.au/contents/en-us/d2.html)

Has anybody tried these and if so, how effective as it in reducing the dust & dirt load on the air cleaner element?

Alan

[Ancient Mariner]

I have a 88mm dia snorkel.With a precleaner head it trips the restriction indicator in 5 minutes where with a scoop type no problems. A bigger precleaner would probably be better but with the loss of velocity would possibly be less efficient :(

AM

[n plus one]

Re fitting a pre-cleaner.
Not sure how good the Uni-Filter pre-cleaner is but it's simple to fit and it works with just about any snorkel.
4x4 Pre-Cleaners (http://www.uniflow.com.au/contents/en-us/d2.html)

Has anybody tried these and if so, how effective as it in reducing the dust & dirt load on the air cleaner element?

Alan

Assuming its as effect as moto oiled filter (which I think is a reasonable assumption) then it should be extremely effective. As well as being easily field serviceable.