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Ean Austral
18th August 2014, 06:17 PM
Gday All,


Anyone watch the story about how old is your fresh food at the supermarket.




Be keen to hear some responses as having dealt with the supermarkets myself , its interesting to see this story.


Cheers Ean

pop058
18th August 2014, 07:01 PM
I would hazzard a guess that anything in one of the major supermarkets has been gassed or frozen. I have heard of apples being months old (off the tree) by the time they get to the shelf.

Ean Austral
18th August 2014, 07:15 PM
I would hazzard a guess that anything in one of the major supermarkets has been gassed or frozen. I have heard of apples being months old (off the tree) by the time they get to the shelf.


Yeh its called C.A or controlled atmosphere, fruit has been coming from overseas for years in that way and is usually months old by the time it hits our shelves.
Its OK ( with me anyway ) if its local fruit that is seasonal and they do this to keep these growers supported than that's great, its just they don't say that any food that classed as 2nd they return and charge the grower, or if its discounted for whatever reason they pay the grower the reduced rate.


Cheers Ean

Ferret
18th August 2014, 07:15 PM
Wasn't one of them pinged by the ACCC for 'Fresh' bread that was actually partially baked overseas, several months beforehand.

Ean Austral
18th August 2014, 07:20 PM
Wasn't one of them pinged by the ACCC for 'Fresh' bread that was actually partially baked overseas, several months beforehand.


Yeh baked on the premises with 100% Australian ingredients .


Glad that one was revealed.


Cheers Ean

Andrew D
18th August 2014, 08:04 PM
It's not uncommon to see english muffins (Tip Top) that are at least 6 months past the best before date at Nightcliff Woolworths.

I realise we are a little from most of civilisation but 6 months is a stretch.

I just laughed and threw it back in the racks (just starting to thaw from the freezer, so no damage).

Another chap was also looking at them and I just said they are a bit of a lottery.

Maybe they are a bit loose with fifo or lilo up here being a tad laid back and all the rest.

Regards
Andrew

Bytemrk
18th August 2014, 08:36 PM
I reckon the focus of these stories (Which ACA drag up again year after year) is all wrong..

It shouldn't be about how old the fruit etc is... for god sake, orchardists have been using cool stores since my dad was a kid! Well before the big 2 had even 1% of the market power they enjoy today

The real story here is the way the big supermarket chains bend every supplier over time and time again.... :mad:

Bytemrk
18th August 2014, 08:38 PM
It's not uncommon to see english muffins (Tip Top) that are at least 6 months past the best before date at Nightcliff Woolworths.

I realise we are a little from most of civilisation but 6 months is a stretch.

I just laughed and threw it back in the racks (just starting to thaw from the freezer, so no damage).

Regards
Andrew

That's just a plain simple case of crap retail store management.

Tank
19th August 2014, 06:30 PM
So next time your Doctor or Nutritionist tells you that good quality Vitamin Supplements (not Centrum) are not necessary because we get all the vitamins we need from FRESH foods, you will know we don't get our daily intake from Fresh food, unless you grow it and eat it within a few hours of picking, Regards Frank.

justinc
19th August 2014, 08:06 PM
So next time your Doctor or Nutritionist tells you that good quality Vitamin Supplements (not Centrum) are not necessary because we get all the vitamins we need from FRESH foods, you will know we don't get our daily intake from Fresh food, unless you grow it and eat it within a few hours of picking, Regards Frank.

...and refrain from boiling it translucent:o like me 'ol gran used to with the carrots....lovely orange broth straight down the sink!


JC

ADMIRAL
19th August 2014, 09:33 PM
I would hazzard a guess that anything in one of the major supermarkets has been gassed or frozen. I have heard of apples being months old (off the tree) by the time they get to the shelf.

Old news and an unreasonable angle by ACA ( as usual.... never let the facts spoil a good story ) Controlled atmosphere coolroom storage has been used for decades, and that is by everyone, not just the major chains.

The local F & V store hasn't got a secret source, he gets his stock from the same wholesalers. He can also be a lot more selective in the buying of small batches.

What gets me is the consumer who expects fruit clearly out of season, to be available all the time. Where do they think it comes from, a magic Genie !? If it is out of season, it will come out of storage, or be imported.

Having the range available that we do , clearly comes at a price occassionally.

If you don't like the quality , don't buy it.

bob10
20th August 2014, 07:21 AM
Supermarkets provide a great range of fruit & vegies, but you only have to taste their tomatoes to know they are not "fresh", a lot of the time. But, as mentioned before, if its out of season, its out of storage. I tried to grow vegies in Darwin, when we were there, had no luck . I know some people did, but we relied on the supermarkets. When on the patrol boats there, we used to get our meat from the butcher in Broome. Put in a bulk order, and it was flown to Darwin. We had some kind of sweetheart deal going, so it wasn't too expensive.


The best way , of course, is to grow your own, if possible. I grow my best tomatoes in winter here, you don't seem to get the bugs & diseases you do in summer. I bottle my own pasta sauce, usually get between 20 - 30 bottles, & freeze the bulk of them. I grow my own celery, herbs, cucumbers, broad beans, capsicums, potatoes, in season. I make green tomatoes pickles, marmalade from the oranges & lemons, [not this year, got lazy on it] I grow rosellas in season & make rosella jam, [ a lot of sugar in it, though]. Getting chooks again, soon, even though SWMBO is against it. Getting my first bee hive in September, and this year I will expand my vegie garden in summer, if only to practise proper crop rotation. I get a lot of ideas from organic garden magazines, I'm yet to master the perfect compost, nearly there. My aim is to be as self sufficient as possible, and of course being retired I have the time. When I'm not working on the Discovery.


We have a local baker in our little shopping centre, bread, etc fresh every day. Free horse manure from the local stables, chicken manure from the chicken farm at Virginia [ soon be using my own]. So far growing vegies has just been a hobby, but I'm going to get a little bit more into it. Try to give the super markets the flick, in some things, at least. Bob

Pedro_The_Swift
20th August 2014, 07:30 AM
water tanks and solar panels too Bob?:angel:

bob10
20th August 2014, 07:57 AM
water tanks and solar panels too Bob?:angel:


Water tank, no solar. But we have a spring a few metres down, where the water collects , being at the bottom of the hill, it all comes here. You can tap into it. I haven't yet, my neighbour has. Bob