Who needs a V8 Diesel???

[DiscoKym]

Roos Systems have just released the upgrade for the 2013 Discovery 4 TDV6 HSE.. In an add in the Sept copy of 4X4 Australia..

Disco 4 ECU Remap and Twin 2.5" Exhaust.

Power - 183 kw

Torque - 1083 nm

Combined Economy 6.6L/100km

Is there a face thing for drool?????

:burnrubber:

[sheerluck]

Discussed here back in April http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/194865-roo-systems-remap.html

[CaptAwsm]

Wowee!!! That's ridiculous. Did they end up making one for the Disco3 TDV6?

Ben.

[cripesamighty]

If they could even get that much power out of it like they claim (which I seriously doubt), how long would an engine last before it hand-grenades itself? That's a rather expensive experiment to undertake with your pride and joy.

[Redback]

Why would you need to get a power upgrade for the 3.0l SDV6 or even TDV6 3.0l, I'm fairly happy 140Kw in the 2.7L TDV6, I'd be really happy with 155Kw

[Epic pooh]

See I thought this thread was going to say "when you can have a supercharged V8" .... :)

[TerryO]

if you do all that work and spend all that money and stress the crap out of your engine then it might nearly be as quick as a bog stock standard 5.0 V8 D4. ... :p

[HJF]

Roos Systems have just released the upgrade for the 2013 Discovery 4 TDV6 HSE.. In an add in the Sept copy of 4X4 Australia..

Disco 4 ECU Remap and Twin 2.5" Exhaust.

Power - 183 kw

Torque - 1083 nm

Combined Economy 6.6L/100km

Is there a face thing for drool?????

:burnrubber:

Happy to stick with my SDV8, may not have the torque you are quoting but with 250kw and 700nm it will do the trick

[winaje]

Happy to stick with my SDV8, may not have the torque you are quoting but with 250kw and 700nm it will do the trick

And not suffer from any of the likely issues from boosting torque that high either

[Dougal]

They could get torque higher still by using low range.

Publishing claims like that makes them look like complete muppets.

[LeighW]

From Roo Systems website the warranty explains their side of what it could mean to possess all that power and torque.

See Roo Systems Warranty page (http://roosystems.com.au/warranty/)

I would only suggest that the brave venture forth as I would not want to be 500 odd kilometres from the nearest LR service centre when I need to discuss the matter of what has gone wrong with a stressed engine.

Maybe the Roo Systems exhaust system would be enough for most users? Just my two bobs worth...

[winaje]

From Roo Systems website the warranty explains their side of what it could mean to possess all that power and torque.

See Roo Systems Warranty page (http://roosystems.com.au/warranty/)

I would only suggest that the brave venture forth as I would not want to be 500 odd kilometres from the nearest LR service centre when I need to discuss the matter of what has gone wrong with a stressed engine.

Maybe the Roo Systems exhaust system would be enough for most users? Just my two bobs worth...

The thing that concerns me after reading that is, nowhere do Roo Systems state that THEY have any kind of warranty against the failure of a component that is caused by the additional load placed upon it by their products.

It should be stated that I am not a current or potential future customer of theirs.

[DiscoKym]

Discussed here back in April http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/194865-roo-systems-remap.html

Sorry my quick look before posting has proved to be too quick... :(

Lots of important reading on that thread... :)

[TerryO]

Maybe the Roo Systems exhaust system would be enough for most users? Just my two bobs worth...

While not against a few extra neddies at any time I can't imagine turning a 100k Disco into a loud vibrating heap of poo for the sake of a few more horses.

Unless you could hear and drive a Disco with the exhaust mod I reckon you won't know if you can handle the noise / drone and resulting vibes you usually get from a louder exhaust until after you have shelled out the bucks and then it's to late. Though you would know for sure if you like it or not after an hour driving down the freeway with the thing droning away.

[LandyAndy]

I thought red ones were faster:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
ROO SYSTEMS ECU REMAPPING - YouTube
Andrew

[Celtoid]

if you do all that work and spend all that money and stress the crap out of your engine then it might nearly be as quick as a bog stock standard 5.0 V8 D4. ... :p





Be as quick as .... into the petrol station .... ;)

[Celtoid]

The thing that concerns me after reading that is, nowhere do Roo Systems state that THEY have any kind of warranty against the failure of a component that is caused by the additional load placed upon it by their products.

It should be stated that I am not a current or potential future customer of theirs.


Engine one thing, but there are so many drive and transmission parts that could be damaged too ... then there's the brakes .... then there's the tyres ... then there's the suspension .....


Then there's the insurance problems ....


Dunno ... but it reminds me of a Top Gear episode where the outcome was "well done boys, you've made a fabulous car un-driveable, do you know how much money MB spend on R&D and yet you think you can do better"


It's interesting that they show the Brand Logos at the end of the tape .... have they been endorsed by these OEMs? I very much doubt it.

[tiddy]

The thing that concerns me after reading that is, nowhere do Roo Systems state that THEY have any kind of warranty against the failure of a component that is caused by the additional load placed upon it by their products.

It should be stated that I am not a current or potential future customer of theirs.

Yes I noticed that was missing as well, it's one thing for them to say the onus is on the manufacturer, not the owner, but how many owners would be prepared or have the knowledge to take a manufacturer on if it did **** itself.

I wonder if Mr Roo Systems would fund the legal challenge to a manufacturer if a customers car had a warranty made void by their modification?....I doubt it

[TerryO]

If you mod your vehicle to produce more power then why should a manufacturer be responsible if something breaks?

If I modded mine for extra power and it **** itself then I would accept that it was my decision to do so which makes it my responsibility.

[Dougal]

Ummm guys, the 1000+Nm claim is complete bull****.

Someone got the gear ratio calculation wrong on their dyno and it spat out an inflated torque figure. Hence my earlier statement about doing it in low range and getting an even higher number.

If the engine is producing around the claimed 180kw then the torque will be pretty close to the 600Nm of the factory 180kw SDV6.

[LeighW]

Ummm guys, the 1000+Nm claim is complete bull****.

...

If the engine is producing around the claimed 180kw then the torque will be pretty close to the 600Nm of the factory 180kw SDV6.

Buggar - if it was going to put out that sort of torque than I could have fitted steel rims and taken over the job of either the Indian Pacific or the Ghan when either became unserviceable. Smooth ride I would imagine.

[Fred Nerk]

When does the additional power or torque get used? The only time(s) that I ran out of power is after I've run out of momentum in very soft sand at the beach and come to a stop. When getting started again, there is plenty of power to turn the wheels forward but not for reverse. And so, engage low range and presto.

At no other time has the accelerator been pushed to the firewall except for fun and to see what she'll do.

My SDV6 3.0 would never reach the situation where the additional power was employed. There is no hill steep enough where traction is not an issue, nothing you can tow legally that is heavy enough and no one wants to race me anyway. :cool: It is a lot of money to spend on something useless.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/08/539.jpg

On my way up Big Red.

[DiscoDB]

When does the additional power or torque get used? .

I am sure if people are honest, it is all about the acceleration. When a car (especially a big 4wd) accelerates a lot quicker than you would expect then it is fun. That is why people buy 427kw Holdens when the basic 6 cyl taxi version will do the same job.

Range Rover aren't making the fastest 4wd round the ring just to taxi the family around - they do it because there are plenty of big kids with money who want fast toys out there.

Same applies with remaps and performance upgrades on any car.

[Celtoid]

I am sure if people are honest, it is all about the acceleration. When a car (especially a big 4wd) accelerates a lot quicker than you would expect then it is fun. That is why people buy 427kw Holdens when the basic 6 cyl taxi version will do the same job.

Range Rover aren't making the fastest 4wd round the ring just to taxi the family around - they do it because there are plenty of big kids with money who want fast toys out there.

Same applies with remaps and performance upgrades on any car.




That is true mate, where there is a market there is a sale ... status, fun, whatever.


I flew to Sydney this week for business and was reading the in-flight Virgin magazine. They had and article on watches ... Swiss mechanicals Vs the new smart watches that are due to hit the market (or may have already).


Long story short ... some of these Swiss watches were $170K. Seriously .... you have to be freaking kidding me!


Supply and demand ... same folks feel they need a $200K watch others feel they need 1000hp.....