May the fitout begin.

[LandyAndy]

These D4s arent big enough.
Having a few nibbles on the D2 so I decided time had come to remove all my bits and pieces.
Firstly all the recovery gear and basic tool set.In the D2 they all sat safely by the engel behind a cargo barrier.No such luxury in the D4,until I can get my Bro to build a decent setup.I had an old toolbox in the shed that had camping gear in it,perfect.
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Then the Engel went in,OK for now,want it mounted the other direction on a slide eventualy.
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Andrew

[JamesH]

That's a monster Engel, Andrew. Better tie that onne down!

I'm thinking I really need a cargo barrier. I load up the back with gear, the engel is made safe but nothing else is. Not good.

[~Rich~]

Bloody Hell, why do you need a fridge that big?
The more space you have in the fridge the more stuff you take while stealing valuable storage space.
The tool box worries me too, unless you keep the seat up in front of it.

[LandyAndy]

Bloody Hell, why do you need a fridge that big?
The more space you have in the fridge the more stuff you take while stealing valuable storage space.
The tool box worries me too, unless you keep the seat up in front of it.

As you may not know Im a keen fisherman.That engel has paid for itself in saved bait and catch already,its a twin ie half freezer half fridge,then there are the cold beers in the fridge section;););););).I only defrost small portions of bait at a time,plus I can freeze catch after vaccum sealing it in fillets.It also has paid for itself again on shopping trips to the city bringing back cold or frozen foods;););););).It was permanatley fitted to BlackBetty and had its own deep cycle battery.In the future it will be a permanent fixture in the D4 with its own power supply.
There is PLENTY of storage space in the boat or camper trailer when on a mission!!!!
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

That's a monster Engel, Andrew. Better tie that onne down!

I'm thinking I really need a cargo barrier. I load up the back with gear, the engel is made safe but nothing else is. Not good.

Its lashed down each side to the floor mounts with a rachet strap,the tool box is also lashed down.
Andrew

[baldivistribe]

It's a D4 you wont need all those tools and recovery gear.:D

[Bytemrk]

How long before the Traxide and dedicated Engel plug Andrew?

That is one mother of a fridge...... pretty sure my Engel would fit inside that :eek:

[LandyAndy]

It's a D4 you wont need all those tools and recovery gear.:D
I carry them because I live in the country.They have been used to drag falcoons and dunnydoores back onto roads and fix busted cars.
AND I have them there if I need them;);););););)
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

How long before the Traxide and dedicated Engel plug Andrew?

That is one mother of a fridge...... pretty sure my Engel would fit inside that :eek:

Got to sell some Landrovers first.
Now have 2 listed in the markets;););););););)
Andrew

[ADMIRAL]

I had the twin door Engel ( 78 litre I think ..now moved to National Luna ) lengthways, with the slide mounted on a false floor. The handles gave the most pain, particularly as I have a cargo barrier installed. I tried the fridge without them briefly, but it was too awkward to move. The lid doors also hit the upper door when the out on the slide, but you can fit a slightly longer gas strut to get another 20-30ml of clearance if required.

If you check the forum, there is a good tutorial on making your own drawer set for a D3/D4. The design uses drawers on the bottom, which you will not be able to do with that size fridge, but the false floor example will be the same, and a definite requirement, as the floor in the cargo area is not flat, and has to come up 20 odd mm at the back edge, if you intend to use a fridge slide.

[Nomad9]

Hi Andy,
Just as an Idea I'm not sure if your D4 is a seven seater, however my RRS was, I had the same problem, storage.............

My way around this was to take out the sixth and seventh seats and put a marine ply floor where the seats used to be. The area under the seats is carpeted anyway. I found I had enough room under the marine ply to store a lot of filters, belts a tyre repair kit, spanners, snatch strap shackles etc etc. The little hatch on the right gave ample access, directly under the hatch I had a cutlery tray I bought from Ikea that fitted perfectly, I kept mainly spanners in the tray. I also drilled a hole in the ply to get access to the winding mechanism that I then used an electric hand tool to wind the spare wheel up and down. In the sport the fuses are also on the left I had to cut a small hole to give access.

I used the seat belt anchor points to hold the marine ply in place, never rattled or broke loose. The Engel slide mounted perfectly on the marine ply and allowed the fridge to slide in and out easily.

Just an idea.

Cheers Marty.

[LandyAndy]

Hi Andy,
Just as an Idea I'm not sure if your D4 is a seven seater, however my RRS was, I had the same problem, storage.............

My way around this was to take out the sixth and seventh seats and put a marine ply floor where the seats used to be. The area under the seats is carpeted anyway. I found I had enough room under the marine ply to store a lot of filters, belts a tyre repair kit, spanners, snatch strap shackles etc etc. The little hatch on the right gave ample access, directly under the hatch I had a cutlery tray I bought from Ikea that fitted perfectly, I kept mainly spanners in the tray. I also drilled a hole in the ply to get access to the winding mechanism that I then used an electric hand tool to wind the spare wheel up and down. In the sport the fuses are also on the left I had to cut a small hole to give access.

I used the seat belt anchor points to hold the marine ply in place, never rattled or broke loose. The Engel slide mounted perfectly on the marine ply and allowed the fridge to slide in and out easily.

Just an idea.

Cheers Marty.

Cheers Marty.
Looked at the chairs yesterday,they will be coming out.I have a good use for them,Im going to make two stands,barstools for the shed;););););)
When my Bro is ready Im going to see whats on the net,have seen a good fitout on here with plans.My bro does high end kitchen fitouts so it should be easy for him to make.
Andrew
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

I will use this thread to continue to post upgrades to Snow White in fitting her out for touring.
Ive sold the D2 so have some money to spend.
Sofar,I have ordered an ARB delux winch bar,a set of Fyrlyt spotties,a Traxide DBS including the rear anderson plug and a suitable wiring kit for the Fyrlyts.
Tommorow Im picking up an Engel fridge slide and visiting my Bro to work out how we are going about setting the rear up.Im building the steel frame,he is doing the woodwork.
Also will be getting a uhf with handset display and a trailer brake controler shortly.
That lot will almost gobble the D2 money up,MAY have enough left for a Hema navigator as I went sans factory GPS and Tomarse Tomarse has died.
Andrew

[ADMIRAL]

Just keep a eye on the weight. It is surprising how fast it adds up.

[Disco W.A]

Andrew,


have you seen this?


Kaymar rear bar for Land Rover D4, twin wheel carrier. | Other Parts & Accessories | Gumtree Australia Margaret River Area - Margaret River | 1056442870 (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/margaret-river/other-parts-accessories/kaymar-rear-bar-for-land-rover-d4-twin-wheel-carrier-/1056442870)

[LandyAndy]

Andrew,


have you seen this?


Kaymar rear bar for Land Rover D4, twin wheel carrier. | Other Parts & Accessories | Gumtree Australia Margaret River Area - Margaret River | 1056442870 (http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/margaret-river/other-parts-accessories/kaymar-rear-bar-for-land-rover-d4-twin-wheel-carrier-/1056442870)


Cheers Roger.
Fuel tank/rear wheel carrier wont be happening for some time due to budjetory constraints:(:(:(:(:(:(
I do intend getting them before an extended over east trip Im planing;);););)
Andrew

[BMKal]

I like the Kaymar rear bar and wheel carrier, but you have to start seriously considering weight if you are also adding other accessories.

Speaking with ADMIRAL at his place of work earlier this week - he told me that he is getting very close to weight limit with his when set up for touring. ;)

I haven't weighed mine yet - will do it when I get a chance up in Kal sometime. I have access to a weighbridge through friends in road transport business up there.

[LandyAndy]

I like the Kaymar rear bar and wheel carrier, but you have to start seriously considering weight if you are also adding other accessories.

Speaking with ADMIRAL at his place of work earlier this week - he told me that he is getting very close to weight limit with his when set up for touring. ;)

I haven't weighed mine yet - will do it when I get a chance up in Kal sometime. I have access to a weighbridge through friends in road transport business up there.

We use the CBH bridge;);););)
Andrew

[JamesH]

I had the dual tank in the Defender and it gave me peace of mind on some trips and it allowed me to skip some ultra exxy fuel stops and push through to a larger town. But the previous owner paid for it not me. Now I have the D4 with its admittedly pretty average range but I have to say I can't make the sums work in my favour. I don't think I'm going to be more than 700km between fuel stops in the type of touring I'll be doing in this car. If I do a jerry might be enough.

Andrew, you'll be towing so you might be more concerned about range but on the other hand taking an empty jerry or two on standby will be easier. Furthermore I access the luggage space much more often than I need a second spare.

I liked the 2nd spare in the Defender and I'd like it even more with my 19" rims on the D4. But I think about the coin and have not got to the place where I need to spend it yet.

[LandyAndy]

I have looked at BMKals single spare,its easy to operate and doesnt interfere with the rear acsess at all,its so easy to use.
The long range tanks take the place of the spare so until somebody works how to fit a defender wheel carier to the bonnet a spare carrier is required.
Andrew

[JamesH]

Interesting. I'd like to see BMKal's set up myself then at some future Pims and cucumber sandwiches get together of the Western White D4 Society.

[discotwinturbo]

Interesting. I'd like to see BMKal's set up myself then at some future Pims and cucumber sandwiches get together of the Western White D4 Society.

I am in

Brett.....

[ADMIRAL]

Today I did a dummy load of the D4, filled both tanks with fuel, and added everything I normally carry when touring, 220 watt solar panel included. I then took the D4 and van down to the weigh bridge.

The van is ok but the D4 is 220 kilos over GVM. ( which is about the ball weight of the van ) I will have to put the D4 on Jenny Craig now.

Not sure how I am going to do it yet, but obviously when touring without the van, I am right on the limit, with the van, well over.

Something for you to think on LandyAndy. Even roofracks, awnings and sidesteps add weight. The bullbar is an obvious one. A drawer arrangement is bound to be heavy. ( even before you start filling up the space ) The aux tank is the tipping point.

[BMKal]

Interesting. I'd like to see BMKal's set up myself then at some future Pims and cucumber sandwiches get together of the Western White D4 Society.

I'm not that far from you James - staying in Adelaide Tce near the Hyatt when down in Perth. Work is on Stirling Hwy in Nedlands just up from the Captain Stirling Pub. There's two D4's with the same RWC and fuel tank at work (my boss has just replaced his D3).

My set-up is pretty basic. If you want to see another white D4 better set up for touring, have a look at Brett's.

[LandyAndy]

Today I did a dummy load of the D4, filled both tanks with fuel, and added everything I normally carry when touring, 220 watt solar panel included. I then took the D4 and van down to the weigh bridge.

The van is ok but the D4 is 220 kilos over GVM. ( which is about the ball weight of the van ) I will have to put the D4 on Jenny Craig now.

Not sure how I am going to do it yet, but obviously when touring without the van, I am right on the limit, with the van, well over.

Something for you to think on LandyAndy. Even roofracks, awnings and sidesteps add weight. The bullbar is an obvious one. A drawer arrangement is bound to be heavy. ( even before you start filling up the space ) The aux tank is the tipping point.

The rear wont have drawers.What I want is basically a seperate compartment for the fridge(so stuff dosent fall behind it etc) and a shelf at fridge height with a fold down barrier.Will also have a false floor to utilise the void where the spair chairs live.

I dont think I will go for a full roof-rack,more likely 3 Rola style bars.The D2 rack was mainly only used to cart fishing rods.The camper trailer is heavy,unsure of the ball weight,BUT at the moment I can JUST lift it.

Although I ordered the winch bar,I doubt I will fit a winch at this stage.Was just easier to have it winch friendly.

Fortunately when travelling there is just the 2 of us these days.
Andrew

[DiscoMick]

I'm planning a similar thing with my D1. Just a rectangular box with a centre upright. Left of it will be a fridge and to the right storage bxes.

Sent from my GT-P5210 using AULRO mobile app

[LandyAndy]

Starting to get a collection of bits here ready to fit out Snow White.
Awaiting a bullbar:(:(:(:(:(:(:(
I now have in stock,Engel fridge slide,Fyrlyt spotties,Redarc Tow Pro,Icom 440N uhf and antenna,an optima battery and awaiting a dual battery system/Fyrlyt wiring kit from Traxide(Tims busy time of the year).
Had a good score from the tip the other day,a cargo barrier complete with all its fittings.When I make the fridge box,it will have the top half of the cargo barrier fixed so it can be hinged up and down if need be.
Once I have dealt with LRA re the LED light issue I intend to do the wiring in one hit.Bullbar will happen as soon as I can buy one.
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Been messing around in the shed today.
Got the basics of a frame for the fridge etc tacked together.
Just had a fit test,sofar so good.Once its finished welding,tidied up nd painted its off to my Bro to put the plywood where required and carpet on.
I also have a cargo barrier from the tip,it will be cut up and part of it used on the setup.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/10/1102.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/LandyAndy_2006/media/001_zpsaa38e883.jpg.html)

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Andrew

[Bytemrk]

Looking good Andrew :thumbsup:

[LandyAndy]

Wilst up in the city last week I collected my fridge frame,my Bro had put some ply and carpet on it for me as he is a cabinet maker by trade,nearest Bunnings is 150km away so was easiest to handball the job;););););)
I painted it yesterday and have started fitting it.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/12/771.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/LandyAndy_2006/media/001_zps1fc5b06f.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/12/772.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/LandyAndy_2006/media/002_zps35cd3037.jpg.html)

There is a cargo barrier section that bolts on,more pics tommorow when I finish the job.
Andrew

[justinc]

I agree it is all too easy to get these vehicles over gvm when adding stuff, and filling tanks etc etc. I have 1 customer who is always on the limit when packed reasy to go for mainland touring. To date that vehicle has had shocks, wheel bearings, bushes, control arms, and numerous other health issues all caused mostly due to weight. It has seen some pretty awful tracks though, but travelling thise tracks at around 3.1t isn't ideal...:-P

Jc

[Tombie]

I agree it is all too easy to get these vehicles over gvm when adding stuff, and filling tanks etc etc. I have 1 customer who is always on the limit when packed reasy to go for mainland touring. To date that vehicle has had shocks, wheel bearings, bushes, control arms, and numerous other health issues all caused mostly due to weight. It has seen some pretty awful tracks though, but travelling thise tracks at around 3.1t isn't ideal...:-P

Jc

I dunno.. Lara was pushing 3.2-3.4t when loaded to get away.. ;)

[Tombie]

Snow White? And the single dwarf?

[LandyAndy]

Snow White? And the single dwarf?

No I have Dopey to travel with me:p
:p:p:p:p:p:p

Got the fridge fitted in the fridge yesterday.
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Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Spent some shed time today.
Bolted the Fyrlyts and UHF antenna on.Have ran the coax cable to the front passenger seat.Need to find some way of fixing the Icom remote unit under the seat,there is a plate under there.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/01/574.jpg (http://s113.photobucket.com/user/LandyAndy_2006/media/001_zpsae23929d.jpg.html)

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Andrew

[LandyAndy]

A win and a fail today.
Firstly the win. Icom UHF is installed,head unit under passenger seat,mike/contrller adjacent to starter button.Was an easy instal.
The fail.I bought a cheapo $30.00 tablet mount from Ebay,gosneck style that is bolted to seat rail.The Samsung has to be forced into the cradle,despite them saying it fits on the website.It vibrates excesively and wont hold the Samsung steady,it flops down like a factory mirror on an early holden 1 tonner:(:(:(:(:(:(.
Need to look into a better way of fixing it.
I put Metroview on the tablet,seems to work OK.Its a bit out there with its settings.We now have 3 Caltex roadhouses in town,one is actually the Post Office.Woolshed is now at the Pub and when I turned onto Narrogin Rd I was advised the speed limit is 130kmh:cool::cool::cool::cool::cool:

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Andrew

[Nomad9]

Hi Andy,
A opportunity to try out top gear..........bonus

[~Rich~]

For anything that large I'd be fitting a RAM mount.
Takes up a fair bit of real estate!
I use a Nexus 7 up on the dash, up where you can see without taking your eyes off the road for long.

[wbowner]

Andrew,
Is the bracket for the ICOM screwed in or double sided tape?

Richard

[BMKal]

Andrew,
Is the bracket for the ICOM screwed in or double sided tape?

Richard

Mine is held in the same position with double sided tape.

I have a Uniden, not ICOM - but they're about the same size head unit. More than three years now, and it's never fallen off. ;)

[LandyAndy]

Andrew,
Is the bracket for the ICOM screwed in or double sided tape?

Richard

Not double sided tape as such,they are clear gel style patches you get from Bunnings.In the same spot the double side tape lives.Much stronger than tape;)
;););)
Andrew

[wbowner]

Not double sided tape as such,they are clear gel style patches you get from Bunnings.In the same spot the double side tape lives.Much stronger than tape;)
;););)
Andrew
Andrew,
I will have to have a look for them.
I had double sided stuff on my previous car and it fell off on the first hot day.

However I have had success with some velco strips.

All better than screws

Richard

[LandyAndy]

Andrew,
I will have to have a look for them.
I had double sided stuff on my previous car and it fell off on the first hot day.

However I have had success with some velco strips.

All better than screws

Richard

This stuff works great,
To help you out the details off my packet.
Perma products
Mounting Tape
Clear Ultra Bond Tabs
12 Tabs 30mmx30mm.

Andrew

[wbowner]

This stuff works great,
To help you out the details off my packet.
Perma products
Mounting Tape
Clear Ultra Bond Tabs
12 Tabs 30mmx30mm.

Andrew

Thanks again

[BMKal]

Not double sided tape as such,they are clear gel style patches you get from Bunnings.In the same spot the double side tape lives.Much stronger than tape;)
;););)
Andrew

Andrew learnt this after getting in much trouble for using chewing gum ............ :p:p:p