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winaje
25th August 2014, 12:33 PM
Does anyone else find this another example of the softening of the LR brand?
https://m.facebook.com/story.php'story_fbid=705963602812460&id=374623572613133

disco man
25th August 2014, 12:41 PM
I don't think so mate,to me that nut job bear is a great face for Land Rover in terms of adventure.

Brett1066
25th August 2014, 12:42 PM
Yep.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

uninformed
25th August 2014, 12:50 PM
So far any products I have seen with bear grill attached to it has been absolute junk.....

DBT
25th August 2014, 01:07 PM
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=82707&d=1408939496


He has some big ... er ... uh ... lost train of thought.


Oh yeah. Big SHOES to fill.


Yes. Shoes.

DiscoMick
25th August 2014, 01:45 PM
Bear's a legend mate, linking him to LR would be a marketing bonus.

Brett1066
25th August 2014, 02:33 PM
"Yeah I think he's a bit of a dill, he's a bit of a pretender and if you followed his advice you could get yourself into real trouble" - Les Hiddens on Bear Grylls.

Ranga
25th August 2014, 02:40 PM
"Yeah I think he's a bit of a dill, he's a bit of a pretender and if you followed his advice you could get yourself into real trouble" - Les Hiddens on Bear Grylls.


Where/when did he say that?

Brett1066
25th August 2014, 02:44 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=yObpeHD6_X4

Towards the end of the clip

RHS58
25th August 2014, 03:23 PM
"Yeah I think he's a bit of a dill, he's a bit of a pretender and if you followed his advice you could get yourself into real trouble" - Les Hiddens on Bear Grylls.





Could be worse than Bear - Todd Carney drinks it too.

sashadidi
25th August 2014, 04:38 PM
"Yeah I think he's a bit of a dill, he's a bit of a pretender and if you followed his advice you could get yourself into real trouble" - Les Hiddens on Bear Grylls.





He was a SAS reserve trooper so would have to be reasonably tough and not a dill to have passed the test I would have thought........

85 county
25th August 2014, 04:52 PM
He was a SAS reserve trooper so would have to be reasonably tough and not a dill to have passed the test I would have thought........


SAS reserve trooper = did the start, didn't have the phyc to be in so was dropped

rocket scientist
25th August 2014, 05:32 PM
SAS reserve trooper = did the start, didn't have the phyc to be in so was dropped

He passed selection and wore the beret, which is more than you or Les Hiddens would be capable of!
All the same I did enjoy Les' series.

Pete.

Homestar
25th August 2014, 06:42 PM
He passed selection and wore the beret, which is more than you or Les Hiddens would be capable of!
All the same I did enjoy Les' series.

Pete.

Um, maybe you better read up on him before making statements like that - Les Hiddins - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Hiddins)

85 county
25th August 2014, 08:47 PM
He passed selection and wore the beret, which is more than you or Les Hiddens would be capable of!
All the same I did enjoy Les' series.

Pete.

and you do not know who or what i am nor do you know where i have been and what i have done.

Barefoot Dave
25th August 2014, 09:23 PM
IIRC he was a Marine first, then selected and Beret qual, done Everest a couple of times and other expditions. In my my mind that ranks him as a do-er. BUT!!
Where we part ways is the dangerous BS he proposed in his shows. Now i know he isn't the writer/producer but he is participating.
I constantly have to correct his misdirections when I teach emergency response/ survival.
I see that now he is no longer under contract with the other Discovery, he is talking a little more sense and even correcting some of the poor suggestions.
scovery

Mick_Marsh
25th August 2014, 09:31 PM
At the end of that clip Brett linked to, I think Bear is well aware as to what he is doing.
"It doesn't matter how big and brave you are or how clever you are, or how smart you are, if stuff happens at the wrong time, you're dead."
He did serve three years in the SAS before being discharged due to a back injury (ripped parachute). Since then he has done some amazing stuff.
No matter what the rumors are about the shows (staying in motels instead of roughing it), his shows are great entertainment value. I think using Bear to publicize Landrover is just as good as using Lara and Les.

and you do not know who or what i am nor do you know where i have been and what i have done.
Just as long as you clean it up after.........

85 county
25th August 2014, 09:48 PM
At the end of that clip Brett linked to, I think Bear is well aware as to what he is doing.
"It doesn't matter how big and brave you are or how clever you are, or how smart you are, if stuff happens at the wrong time, you're dead."
He did serve three years in the SAS before being discharged due to a back injury (ripped parachute). Since then he has done some amazing stuff.
No matter what the rumors are about the shows (staying in motels instead of roughing it), his shows are great entertainment value. I think using Bear to publicize Landrover is just as good as using Lara and Les.

Just as long as you clean it up after.........

no one who is injured in the pommy SAS is discharged. that's why you see hop-along on a fanny

rocket scientist
27th August 2014, 06:50 AM
and you do not know who or what i am nor do you know where i have been and what i have done.

No offence intended 85 County.

I do cringe at a lot of the stuff he does, but in the end sit back and watch his shows for the entertainment value. Thank goodness even my kids question his antics !
After cheating death a couple of times I don't think he needs to take so many risks for the TV, especially considering he has a young family.

Pete.

85 county
27th August 2014, 07:58 AM
No offence intended 85 County.

I do cringe at a lot of the stuff he does, but in the end sit back and watch his shows for the entertainment value. Thank goodness even my kids question his antics !
After cheating death a couple of times I don't think he needs to take so many risks for the TV, especially considering he has a young family.

Pete.

no offence taken
and i agree with your comments, why should anyone take risks for a TV show, its easy enough to die with out.
But when a program is promoted as being factual as opposed to just entertaining then i have an issue. i also have an issue that is is presented as being someone or some thing that he is not.

if you really want to see hero's, look at the Atapupu action, or closer to home the aussie SAS AT guys, they are mostly fubard nowadays, and the aussie government will not even look after them

landy
27th August 2014, 10:51 AM
SAS reserve trooper = did the start, didn't have the phyc to be in so was dropped

Have you any idea whats invoked in the British TA SAS selection CSE?. Its tough! and Bear Grylls is badged.

Just as a side note the only member of the Bravo Two Zero mission to have carried out successful escape and evasion measures from the Iraqis in the first gulf war was an EX TA SAS trooper.

As for representing Land Rover, he does portray the adventure image which I think LR has failed to do in the last few years. Certainly since the dropping of the G4 Challenge.
I think its a good move on LRs part. LR needs a hero and who in the market age group in the UK, Europe, USA and Asia has heard of the Aussie out-back heroes ? Les Hiddings was big here, so was a good move for JRA in the 80s

Just my thoughts,

Cheers

460cixy
27th August 2014, 11:09 AM
Wow that tuned in to another ****ing contest

Kevin B
27th August 2014, 11:47 AM
Bear squeezed water out of elephant ***** and drank it... hes certainly tough enough for LR... :)

85 county
27th August 2014, 01:17 PM
Have you any idea whats invoked in the British TA SAS selection CSE?. Its tough! and Bear Grylls is badged.

yes i do. do you know what is needed to stay in the SAS ???


Just as a side note the only member of the Bravo Two Zero mission to have carried out successful escape and evasion measures from the Iraqis in the first gulf war was an EX TA SAS trooper.

if you are talking about B20 as in the book and film. well thats bollocks, it didnt happen that way, fantacy for the masses
and he was not the only, you forgot about the Kiwi


As for representing Land Rover, he does portray the adventure image which I think LR has failed to do in the last few years. Certainly since the dropping of the G4 Challenge.
I think its a good move on LRs part. LR needs a hero and who in the market age group in the UK, Europe, USA and Asia has heard of the Aussie out-back heroes ? Les Hiddings was big here, so was a good move for JRA in the 80s

Just my thoughts,

Cheers
agree

DiscoMick
27th August 2014, 02:42 PM
Anyone who can drink his own urine out of a snake skin is tough enough, I reckon.:o

85 county
27th August 2014, 02:52 PM
Anyone who can drink his own urine out of a snake skin is tough enough, I reckon.:o

equal to every second Babushka in rural Russia only LOL

Barefoot Dave
27th August 2014, 02:58 PM
Anyone who can drink his own urine out of a snake skin is tough enough, I reckon.:o
There is a difference between tough and stupid!
Though truthfully,for the money he was getting, I'd gargle it as well :)

DieselDan
27th August 2014, 03:54 PM
SAS reserve trooper = did the start, didn't have the phyc to be in so was dropped


no one who is injured in the pommy SAS is discharged. that's why you see hop-along on a fanny

Touch harsh.

I've no personal experience of what is or is not required to gain selection to the SAS or then get 'discharged' or retired or whatever the correct phrase is, but from reading his book (so I'm taking his word for it....) he served for three years and then broke his back in a parachuting accident and spent around 12months in/out of military hospital.
Seems like a reasonable excuse to 'retire' to me!

I never really got into his 'man vs wild' programmes, but the ones that I did watch I just took as face value that he is only showcasing what you can do in certain survival situations. Maybe I just have healthy cynicism for what's on the telly, but I was never outraged at all the 'oh he's faking it, he's not really staying out in the wild, he scuttles off to a luxury hotel for the night...'
Meh, who cares? It's just entertainment on the telly.

To me it doesn't diminish his abilities, I'm sure he's a damn sight better survival expert than I am and I think he's a great brand ambassador for LR.
A sort of younger Les Hiddins for those who have unfortunately not heard of Les (or are too young to remember!).

Johnno1969
27th August 2014, 05:10 PM
Yep.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachments/general-chat/82702d1408938062-lr-welcomes-bear-grylls-les.jpg


BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DiscoMick
28th August 2014, 11:17 AM
There is a difference between tough and stupid!
Though truthfully,for the money he was getting, I'd gargle it as well :)



You might, but I'd pass. Some things are not worth money, I reckon.

winaje
28th August 2014, 02:17 PM
Sorry guys, didn't meant to stir up a hornets nest...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FONN-0uoTHI