View Full Version : 9 Year Old Girl Using A Uzi WTF!!!
disco man
28th August 2014, 03:05 PM
Can anyone please tell me why a 9 year old girl needs to use a automatic weapon?,i can't be the only one who finds this recent death at a USA shooting range bloody stupid.
In 2012 a 10 year old boy died when the recoil from a automatic weapon caused the weapon to turn in his hands and back on himself.
The report showed several shooting ranges across the states and some of these ranges had age limits as low as 6 years old(Texas).
On another note the shooting range where this latest tragedy took place is called "Bullets And Burgers" you can't get more American than that.
Mick_Marsh
28th August 2014, 03:07 PM
Can anyone please tell me why a 9 year old girl needs to use a automatic weapon?
America.
Need I say more?
bob10
28th August 2014, 03:40 PM
I have nothing to say. Bob
Nine-Year-Old Accidentally Kills Instructor With Uzi - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/nine-year-old-accidentally-kills-instructor-uzi-n190636)
disco man
28th August 2014, 03:48 PM
I have nothing to say. Bob
Nine-Year-Old Accidentally Kills Instructor With Uzi - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/nine-year-old-accidentally-kills-instructor-uzi-n190636)
That video says it all Bob.
vnx205
28th August 2014, 03:54 PM
I don't know how the recoil from an Uzi compares with the recoil from an Owen, but is saw a similar inability to control recoil at Singleton Army Camp in the early 60s.
At school cadet camp, NCOs were allowed the privilege of a couple of bursts from an Owen.
One of our sergeants was a very lightly built 15 year old. In spite of his best efforts to control the Owen and in spite of being warned that the gun would "climb" as he fired it , his first shot went into the butts, the second into the brick wall behind the butts and the third one went clean over the top.
bob10
28th August 2014, 04:18 PM
When on patrol boats in Darwin in the 80's, every patrol we did a small arms shoot. Only because it was required, and the box had to be ticked. I thought the Navy was taking a chance by letting non Gunnery rate sailors, who had not been properly trained in the use of small arms, get their hands on the weapons for an hour every 6 weeks. I believed it would have been more beneficial to send the crew to the Army in Darwin to be properly trained first up, then have the shoot with a proper background of training. It was all a matter of time , we didn't have any spare. A 9 year old? Good God. And the F1 [ Owen gun successor] , did kick up, but I found if you took charge with the left arm [ right handed] and leant into it, it was surprisingly accurate at close range , with short bursts. We shot at targets floating in the sea, usually the safest place would be sitting on the target, Bob:)
vnx205
28th August 2014, 04:32 PM
I clearly recall that our NCOs were told to "lean into it" or similar words. Even with that advice our sergeant, who probably weighed only a bit more than that 9 year old girl, couldn't control it.
weeds
28th August 2014, 05:12 PM
I don't know how the recoil from an Uzi compares with the recoil from an Owen, but is saw a similar inability to control recoil at Singleton Army Camp in the early 60s.
At school cadet camp, NCOs were allowed the privilege of a couple of bursts from an Owen.
One of our sergeants was a very lightly built 15 year old. In spite of his best efforts to control the Owen and in spite of being warned that the gun would "climb" as he fired it , his first shot went into the butts, the second into the brick wall behind the butts and the third one went clean over the top.
You probably don't want to know what happen to my first 84mm charley guts sake went..........we needed the dems kit as it didn't go far enough to arm
justinc
28th August 2014, 05:16 PM
That poor, poor girl. (And obviously the family etc of the instructor, who probably had kids of his own....)
This was totally avoidable.
That country is totally out of control. Gun crazy, right to bare earms etc BLA BLA BLA. All THAT does is get MORE people killed. As unfortunate and tragic as that 1 of many incidents is, I am not at all surprised.
Before anyone here says anything, I appreciate firearms and strongly believe they have a place, just not in the hands of power hungry, crazed lunatic fringe Americans who are encouraged by their constitution to carry them.
:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
JC
bob10
28th August 2014, 05:27 PM
You probably don't want to know what happen to my first 84mm charley guts sake went..........we needed the dems kit as it didn't go far enough to arm
We had a WO2 regular Cadre Staff for Jawforce, oops, Norforce, come on a patrol with us, good bloke , I think he was the RQMS for them. Not too hard to work out why we invited him. We showed him all the fleshpots of the west coast..... as if, but he was well looked after. The official reason for his presence was he was going to demonstrate the operation of the 40 mm grenade launcher, under the armalite ? rifle. He was a Vietnam veteran, and hit the target, which was about 50 yards out. Impressed us no end, and by the shocked look on his face , surprised him. As the 40 mm left the launcher, a small hot piece flew off & hit the elbow of our only Gunnery rate, poetic justice, we all said. No sympathy was recorded. Bob.
:D
Yeats
28th August 2014, 10:27 PM
There is that old chestnut quote that is often dragged out when gun control is mentioned:
'Guns don't kill people. People kill people'.
So...
A man is dead...
I'm pretty sure an out of control gun killed him.
But maybe it should be:
'Guns don't kill people. Stupidity kills people'.
Jojo
29th August 2014, 01:26 AM
I don't know how the recoil from an Uzi compares with the recoil from an Owen,
Don't know about an Owen, but the Uzi has no recoil to speak of, at least when firing with 9mm Parabellum. I had an Uzi as my standard issued weapon in the army, so I have sound experience with handling and shooting one of these.
jimr1
29th August 2014, 06:36 AM
When I saw this clip on the tv. my thoughts were what is a 9 year old girl doing on a shooting range ? For me this was irresponsible , and as a result a life is lost . The sad thing is the law probably won't change , and It will happen again !!.. Jim..
Bigbjorn
29th August 2014, 11:34 AM
If you want to get in an argument in the USA make comment on gun ownership and "the right to bear arms". Even yanks who don't own a gun and never will, do staunchly defend this "right". A very high percentage of Americans have a handgun at home for "protection". In the deer hunting states just about every house has an arsenal of heavy rifles and shotguns. In deer season the conversation in bars starts with "got your deer yet?" They can't comprehend our system of licensing and control. In Texas you can openly carry a handgun, no permit needed. In Montana handguns are in just about every car but I don't know about whether permits are needed or they can be openly carried.
Greatsouthernland
29th August 2014, 12:03 PM
Some countries let younger kids carry bigger machine guns than that, and not on a range, into combat...
But aside from that, the range officer/instructor was standing in the wrong spot and should have known the directional forces on the weapon from firing. He also shouldn't have released control to the girl in auto.
But yes it does seem odd in comparison to our 'regulated' society, but we aren't at war with nearly every other country :D ... yet :unsure:
I did fire the 9mm SMG in the reserves, similar barrel trajectory, but easier to control.
nismine01
29th August 2014, 12:29 PM
Every year there is an award given to stupidity, they are called the Darwin Awards, perhaps you have come across them before.
With the gun mentality of the septics, it is a wonder there hasn't been a collective win the award.
"Presented to the ENTIRE population of the United States of America"
in recognition of stupidity!
The right to bear arms was granted at a time when they were probably all single shots, let them all bear single shot rifles, nothing has been taken away but progress.
It also seems there are a number of mil or ex-mil people around here who understand the not so delightful aspect of being on the two way range, I don't want to go back to that!
Cheers
Mike
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