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kingo
3rd September 2014, 03:48 PM
Hi all, now as I've changed my car from a sensible white D3 to a black RRS, scratches are a concern. From my last trip into the high country and snow, we went down a number of track that were over grown. The Defenders and older Disco's didn't care, but I got my fair share of scratches.

Have been looking at paint protection film and was wondering if anyone has used these, how good are they, are they easy to see and of course how much.

Curious to hear some feedback, as can't recall ever seeing anything on the forum regarding this. There are plenty of members who have shelled out serious money for their cars and thought someone must have invested in this type of product.

Cheers

Andrew

Mungus
3rd September 2014, 04:27 PM
There is a thread in this section titled 'Headlight Protectors' that delves into the protection film. I don't know how to paste a link, but a search should bring it up. I have inquired and am looking at getting the kit attached from Ducoscratch. Quoted around 750 inc + postage. Then probably around 500 if you get a window tint place to apply, although it is DIY, but...
I'm a little hesitant about bubbling, yellowing, peeling and removal etc. (they ask you speak to them about white cars?) but do state it is lifetime? warranty against my concerns. Seems it would be a good investment.

Mike Jarvis
3rd September 2014, 05:44 PM
I used to supply and install a clear paint protection film and it was a very good product, provided very good protection and could be removed with out leaving and discoloration or damage to the paint. Here is the link to that product Paint Protection :: Auto-Grafix Wholesaler & Retailer (http://www.auto-grafix.com.au/Auto-Shield/) . I sold that business years ago so have lost touch with any recent developments there but the product was bought out by 3M.

There is quite a bit of skill in its application and you would best make sure that anyone you get to fit it is experienced and well recommended.

benji
3rd September 2014, 06:11 PM
I've used a more temporary product called auto-skins.
It's pva based and you apply it with a paint roller.
Last trip up the high country we had sticks as thick as my thumb scratching down the side and they left no mark.

We've used this a few times now, and is been excellent!

The only down side is time. A good wax is needed before you put it on, you need to apply it pretty thick, and the car will need at least half an hour under the sprinkler for it to be able to be peeled off.
Peeling it all off usually takes the two of us a good couple of hours.

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~Rich~
3rd September 2014, 07:14 PM
I too have used a PVA paint protection coating.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/127707-scratched-sides-4.html#post1706093

For temporary protection it's great, if you want to have permanent protection yes the above products would be better.

Another coating is Paint Shield:
Paint Shield (http://www.shieldnpeel.com.au/store/index.php?route=product/category&path=60)

Plastidip is too thin for protection from bush pinstripes.

nat_89
3rd September 2014, 07:36 PM
I have the 3M venture shield on my new white D4 and love it had it only a black HSV Maloo ute a few years ago to and swear by it my main reason for installing was to stop stone chips and so forth on the front so it mainly covers all the front of the car not to stop the stick scratches that your speaking of.

The PVA stuff others are speaking of seems good if thats what your wanting or the 3M stuff is bloody hard to install so get someone else to do it, i didn't do it on mine but I've just seen it done and boy its hard!!

But well worth the $1100 to get done, will definitely get it again!!

kingo
3rd September 2014, 08:47 PM
Thanks for your responses, seems like a good idea the 3M Venture Shield. Tell me can you tell its on, does it look noticeable? Especially on a black car.

Mike Jarvis
3rd September 2014, 09:44 PM
If you are looking for it you will be able to see an edge where it is not possible to wrap around. The film is completely clear and you can polish it which helps keep the same feel and depth of reflection of the paint surface. The edge is most noticeable across the bonnet where the film goes back from the leading edge, usually about 300mm or so. When you find an installer he should be able to show you an example of the film applied to a car or demo panel. While it is not completely invisible, it is a lot better than deep scratches.

nat_89
4th September 2014, 07:07 AM
Exactly as Mike said its a little bit noticeable around the leading edge but unless you point it out to someone they would not notice it. I have attached the 3M screen shot of Victorian dealers for it hope that helps!!

Canaussie
4th September 2014, 08:45 AM
I did use a product last year up the cape called Plasti dip. Great product that sprays on and is peeled off when finished, my mates wished they done the same. Bought by the can x 4 in clear. Worked a treat!

Canaussie
4th September 2014, 08:49 AM
You can see in this photo where it's applied, lots of pinstripes on plasti dip but none went down to the paint. It weathers really well and doesn't mind getting wet. I've done my wheels in black also and since peeled off.83231

discovery4
4th September 2014, 09:10 AM
Hi Canaussie,


How do you find the film for protection of the leading edge of the rear wheel arch mouldings? Have been on a recent Simpson desert crossing and noticed quite a few stone chips in this location.


Do you use Road Warrior?


Thanks
Bob

Canaussie
4th September 2014, 09:15 AM
Yes for that area something like the 3m shield would be a better option, I was going for the sides mostly for pin stripe avoidance on my new vehicle. The front of my guards have so good chips in them.

time2
4th September 2014, 10:25 AM
I used the Road Warrior product and it has worked well on Fraser Island on the seldom used north-west tracks. Could see bits were sticks had gouged holes in the coating but nothing came through to the paint work.

The only issue I had with it was when I used it on our trip to Cooktown earlier this year we went through a bit of a rain storm. It softened it up a bit and then cruising along at 100Km/hr had a couple of sections peel off the bonnet. Fortunately it caught in the roof rack. Pretty sure the person travelling behind me would not have been impressed with the gluggy film tangled in their windscreen wipers.:eek:

LRD414
25th February 2016, 06:11 PM
I have dredged this thread up because it helped me decide which way to go for protecting the rear wheel flares from stone chips thrown by the front wheels.
For reference, this other thread (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/127707-scratched-sides-4.html) is good for the temporary products like Road Warrior but for now I just wanted a semi-permanent protection for the flares.
I have already had the flares re-sprayed and they look as good as new. There's a before shot in this post (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/2498137-post101.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/09/743.jpg

They stock and use both 3M and Avery products but recommended a different product as the best for a clear protective film.
Hexis Skintac HX20000
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/09/742.jpg

Apparently it lasts longer and is able to self-heal to some extent. I was told that most scratches in the film can be removed with the application of hot water but that's obviously unproven at this stage.

Anyway, it is virtually invisible once applied unless you look very closely. I was advised there may be some minor air bubbles that will clear themselves but to simply take it back if there was anything untoward. It all looks good right now.

It cost $150 to get the two flares coated and took less than an hour. Good service, would recommend to others.
Hopefully it will be money well spent. We are going to the Red Centre this winter so some of those roads should test it out.

Scott

RobA
25th February 2016, 08:13 PM
Just finished doing some testing of the road warrior product at scratchy alley around Beachport. Works well for a temporary solution and we have used it on a couple of the bikes and after a couple of interstate runs it stood up well. Albeit it has not rained in so long I can't comment on what happens if the stuff gets wet

We are happy enough that both the D3 and D4 will get two coats before we head off to the Kimberley and WA for a few months just to see how long it lasts. For us its not just about scratches but also protecting the paint from the crap that happens when you travel. If it reduces the time taken to clean the cars after this forthcoming adventure I will be a fan

Rob

~Rich~
26th February 2016, 07:44 AM
I've been using Paint Shield and last year I left it on for 10mths, I did give it another coat after 6mths as they recommend. Came off with a high pressure washer easily.
Car didn't even need a polish ;)

mfpoli
26th February 2016, 10:45 AM
I've been using Paint Shield and last year I left it on for 10mths, I did give it another coat after 6mths as they recommend. Came off with a high pressure washer easily.
Car didn't even need a polish ;)


Hi Rich - kindly advise please....


1) how did Paint Shield perform when it rained? A number of these products start to peel when it showers/rains. Re-applying every time after a downpour would be pain after a while


2) did it provide good protection from sticks, etc scratching the sides when driving down over-grown tracks?


3) does the product have a shelf life or can it last a year or two if you keep the container sealed?


Appreciate your response. Thank you


Mario

strydes
26th February 2016, 02:41 PM
I have already had the flares re-sprayed and they look as good as new.


Hey Scott,
Was the stone chip damage you incurred before moving to the new sliders with in-fill panels and the D1/2 front mud flaps? What I'm getting at is are you expecting/seeing a significant reduction in stones through these more 'frontline' measures and therefore the sticker coating will hopefully only need to be a last line of defence?

LRD414
26th February 2016, 03:10 PM
Was the stone chip damage you incurred before moving to the new sliders with in-fill panels and the D1/2 front mud flaps? What I'm getting at is are you expecting/seeing a significant reduction in stones through these more 'frontline' measures and therefore the sticker coating will hopefully only need to be a last line of defence?
Exactly. That's a good summary of what I'm hoping to achieve.
This should stop a fair bit. But the scheme is untested as yet.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/11/782.jpg
Maybe the slider underside needs a protective film[emoji51]

Cheers,
Scott

~Rich~
26th February 2016, 07:18 PM
Here you go Mario:

Hi Rich - kindly advise please....


1) how did Paint Shield perform when it rained? A number of these products start to peel when it showers/rains. Re-applying every time after a downpour would be pain after a while.

What happens is it goes sort of milky white which soon dries back out. No you don't need to reapply. The only reason I gave it another coat was to help the coating last, Paint Shield says a maximum life of 18mths!
I have not had issues with it peeling off in wet weather, you may get some "blisters" where the water has got under the coating but I normally pop them with a pin and squeeze the water out to dry again.
I'm heading up to channel country in July and will most definitely have it on.


2) did it provide good protection from sticks, etc scratching the sides when driving down over-grown tracks?

Most definitely, in 2012 we ventured to the geographic centre of the Simpson, cross country through very scratchy shrubbery. Plus many a 4wd trip without a worry of scratching. :) it's a nice feeling.


3) does the product have a shelf life or can it last a year or two if you keep the container sealed?

No shelf life written on the tub, it's going to last me years and years.


Appreciate your response. Thank you


Mario

plusnq
27th February 2016, 11:32 AM
Hi Rich,

Just one more question on this please. You may have already answered but I can't see it. How much of the container did you use on the car?

Many thanks

Shane

~Rich~
27th February 2016, 12:50 PM
Hi Rich,



Just one more question on this please. You may have already answered but I can't see it. How much of the container did you use on the car?



Many thanks



Shane


Bugger all!
Of the 4ltr bucket maybe 1/8th in 3 coats.
Cheers Rich

plusnq
27th February 2016, 01:05 PM
Thank you

TerryO
28th February 2016, 07:14 AM
There is another, all be it is expensive, option for paint protection, wrap the whole vehicle. I reckon if done right it can make a Disco look quite different and pretty good.



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LRD414
28th February 2016, 08:39 AM
About $5k for the whole car at the place I got the flares done.

Scott

Celtoid
28th February 2016, 10:58 AM
There is another, all be it is expensive, option for paint protection, wrap the whole vehicle. I reckon it can make a Disco look quite different and pretty good.



...


I recently saw a new RRS in Brisbane with that finish. I'd never seen that before and it made the car look pretty tough. Wonder if he had this treatment done or is it a paint option like the little Lotus Elise?

TerryO
28th February 2016, 05:12 PM
I got quote to do the D3 recently and it was $3.5k, a bargain I reckon.

sctsprin
28th February 2016, 09:01 PM
Nah, just get this
LINE-X Sprayon Bedliners, Protective Coatings, Truck Bed Coating, Floor Coating, Industrial Flooring (http://www.linex.com/pages/2010/bedliners/products/body_armour.php)

TerryO
28th February 2016, 11:10 PM
As far as I can tell Line X is permanent, Is it?

Personally I like a product I can remove if and when I want to.

sctsprin
29th February 2016, 10:51 AM
yeah but it looks mean
i wonder what it does to your fuel economy, probably weighs a tonne too

~Rich~
29th February 2016, 11:03 AM
Could you imagine getting it off!

sctsprin
29th February 2016, 11:12 AM
I'm sure it's nothing a heat gun and acid couldn't handle :p

TerryO
1st March 2016, 08:27 AM
yeah but it looks mean
i wonder what it does to your fuel economy, probably weighs a tonne too


In the advert it said it only added about 75 lb in weight. ... :o

sctsprin
1st March 2016, 09:22 AM
okay, so i only have to take out the rear seats to keep the weight down then

Nicky
2nd March 2016, 05:57 PM
Not to mention if you need some panel repairs, what then?

mfpoli
14th March 2016, 12:17 PM
Here you go Mario:

Hi Rich - thank you for your responses on 26 February. I bought some Paint Shield and rolled on a thick coat on the weekend. I used half a litre, but there are heaps of surface air bubbles and it doesn't dry clear entirely. I am not concerned about how it looks, but that it does the job of protecting the paint work.

In your experience, does it need another coat or have you found one coat to be enough? You mention that you used about 1/8 lt for 3 coats in a subsequent post (27 Feb) which leads me to believe the quantum of product that I have used is enough.

Kindly advise
Thank you
Mario

~Rich~
14th March 2016, 02:49 PM
Paint shield is a slightly thinner viscosity to Road Warrior, I don't put it on thick in one go - I give it at least two thinner coats.

They actually recommend not using 1 coat, it makes it harder to remove.



The bubbles you speak of are most likely from the type of roller you used.

I don't have a picture of the type I used atm sorry.

mfpoli
14th March 2016, 08:10 PM
Paint shield is a slightly thinner viscosity to Road Warrior, I don't put it on think in one go - I give it at least two thinner coats.
They actually recommend not using 1 coat, it makes it harder to remove.

The bubbles you speak of are most likely from the type of roller you used.
I don't have a picture of the type I used atm sorry.

Thanks Rich. I will keep it in mind next time re two vs one coat. FYI, I used an 18mm polyester roller, as per the YouTube demonstration.

Kind regards
Mario

Meken
2nd May 2016, 08:52 AM
Mis this the stuff? http://www.shieldnpeel.com.au/store/index.php?route=product/category&path=60

~Rich~
2nd May 2016, 09:14 AM
Yep, the 4 ltr will last you years!

Or Road Warrior:
Home / Road Warrior Plus Australia (http://www.roadwarriorplus.com.au/home)
It's a much smaller amount and cheaper, you will get one use out of it and they recommend only 3mths while the Paint Shield can last for up to 18mths if you recoat it.

Oh btw put it on a cool paint surface out of the sun, you will get a better finish.

Russrobe
30th May 2016, 08:42 PM
Yep, the 4 ltr will last you years!

Or Road Warrior:
Home / Road Warrior Plus Australia (http://www.roadwarriorplus.com.au/home)
It's a much smaller amount and cheaper, you will get one use out of it and they recommend only 3mths while the Paint Shield can last for up to 18mths if you recoat it.

Oh btw put it on a cool paint surface out of the sun, you will get a better finish.

Thanks Rich, I just bought 4L of Paint Shield! Finger crossed no more pinstripes!
$150 to save a $10,000 paint job, worthy investment!

mfpoli
31st May 2016, 11:48 AM
Thanks Rich, I just bought 4L of Paint Shield! Finger crossed no more pinstripes!
$150 to save a $10,000 paint job, worthy investment!

Make sure to apply a second coating on the wing mirror covers and the side facing section of the rear tail light as I found it is a little more difficult to remove from these parts. However, no issues on removing from the metal, bumpers, wheel archs, etc.

Mario

Russrobe
31st May 2016, 08:48 PM
Make sure to apply a second coating on the wing mirror covers and the side facing section of the rear tail light as I found it is a little more difficult to remove from these parts. However, no issues on removing from the metal, bumpers, wheel archs, etc.

Mario
How long did you leave it on for Mario? Hope it will atleast stay applied over winter...

LandyAndy
31st May 2016, 09:06 PM
Thanks Rich, I just bought 4L of Paint Shield! Finger crossed no more pinstripes!
$150 to save a $10,000 paint job, worthy investment!

Can you post a before and after pic when done????
Its something I would use on a long trip where I cant love and care for my D4 until I got home.
Andrew

Russrobe
31st May 2016, 09:07 PM
Sure Andy I'm going to do a polish then 2 coats of Zaino CS first which is a weekend job in itself but I'll get there. Bulletproof paint ftw.

mfpoli
31st May 2016, 09:34 PM
How long did you leave it on for Mario? Hope it will atleast stay applied over winter...

Not long, only 2 weeks as our off road trips are not frequent. We apply it about 1 week before a trip so it can cure and remove it when we return home as Mrs Mario doesn't like the look of it on a black car (especially when it gets damp and looks like the Milky Way Galaxy :D). Rich mentions on an earlier post that he has left it on for several months so should be good for extended periods. I would do the same if my trips are more frequent. Just wash the dirt off the car prior to application, apply a good coat or two, and avoid the temptation to pick at it when it gets damp and soft. It will dry clear and firm again.

For me, such a product is so far my best find on this forum as it enables me to drive the car to its extremes: luxury car on road to bush basher off it! :D

Enjoy!
Mario

~Rich~
1st June 2016, 04:53 AM
Yep with an additional coats say after ever 4 mths you keep it on for up to 18 mths. I kept it on for nearly 12.

Yes it definitely changes the look of your paint job - to a textured satin / Matt finish sort of tougher look.

Ben_Vapid
1st June 2016, 07:35 AM
How does it come off guys? Peel or high pressure hose?

~Rich~
1st June 2016, 08:40 AM
How does it come off guys? Peel or high pressure hose?

See this thread for more info:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/127707-scratched-sides-4.html#post1706093

Shows you it on and further down removal.

LRD414
1st June 2016, 09:54 AM
See this thread for more info:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/127707-scratched-sides-4.html#post1706093
Hey Rich, I know you're getting peppered with questions on this topic but I have one too!

Noticed in the other thread you used Road Warrior in 2012 for the Simpson trip but more recently you seem to be using Paint Shield.
You mention viscosity as a point of difference (Paint Shield thinner) but do you have a view now on which one is better or preferred?

Cheers,
Scott

~Rich~
1st June 2016, 10:12 AM
I found the Road Warrior container too small, the Paint Shield is much better value.
$105 plus postage for 4 ltrs for the Paint Shield compared to $59.90 for less than 1 ltr of the Road Warrior.

Sure you will get 2 coats out of the Road Warrior container for a single use but I use it more often than that.

mfpoli
1st June 2016, 12:55 PM
Yes it definitely changes the look of your paint job - to a textured satin / Matt finish sort of tougher look.

I agree :D .... unfortunately the wife doesn't share the same sentiment :(



How does it come off guys? Peel or high pressure hose?

Further to Rich's post, I have tried both and the pressure hose is quicker and enables you to remove any stubborn areas. Just soak it and let it soften first. Most important is to ensure you have sufficient thickness to create sufficient tensile strength so that once you start to peel it, it comes off in sheets. I've found about 3/4 litre is enough for both sides and the outer thirds of the bonnet and front bumper.

Mario

letherm
1st June 2016, 01:13 PM
Slightly off topic but for future consideration.

I watched an episode of Shark Tank the other week and a guy on there had a product called Rhino Hide. It was stiff sheets of molded "plastic" (not right but you get the idea) that was custom made to be attached to the side of the vehicle with strong magnets. Beauty is of course that they are reusable and simple and quick to fit. They looked very strong. He only had a couple for Toyota and one Ford at present but it looked like a good solution. Not cheap but a more permanent solution if you frequently go off road. Worth a look if they make a LR one later. Anyway here's a link to their web site. Disclaimer: I am in no way connected to these guys :)

Rhinohide (http://rhinohide.com.au/)

Martin

~Rich~
1st June 2016, 01:27 PM
Yeah I saw the Shark Tank episode with that, the guy was shocked by how many offers of $$$ and support he got.

I see a couple of issues with these sort of products,
Dirt or Mud getting between the panel and the product, yes this one used a neoprene rubber and magnets for it to stick but crap will still either sit on the edge and leave a mark or at worst get under and scratch away.

He said he said it stays on up to 100kph, not high enough particularly if you are also driving into a headwind.
No panel for the bonnet or A, B or C pillars, only the sides.

Anyway the chances of them being made for the Disco are very remote!

Back to Paint Shield I have also found it good to use Metho to remove residue on a edge you are having trouble cleaning off completely.

Russrobe
9th July 2016, 03:07 PM
Am I doing this right Rich?https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/868.jpghttps://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/869.jpg

Russrobe
9th July 2016, 06:14 PM
Anyone know how long i have to wait before putting this stuff in the rain? It looks dry, only been a few hours though. Heading out soon.

LandyAndy
9th July 2016, 06:59 PM
I like the matte look Russ.
I think when I finally get to do a reasonable trip I will apply some.
I rekon it would need to set properly,pretty heavy rain up there today.There was hail when I called in to see Tailslide Ron today at lunchtime in Bayswater.
Andrew

Russrobe
9th July 2016, 09:44 PM
I like the matte look Russ.
I think when I finally get to do a reasonable trip I will apply some.
I rekon it would need to set properly,pretty heavy rain up there today.There was hail when I called in to see Tailslide Ron today at lunchtime in Bayswater.
Andrew
Yep that was a waste of time baha. Peeling off in strips. The sides look okay but I'll have to recoat the front end!

mfpoli
10th July 2016, 01:58 PM
Anyone know how long i have to wait before putting this stuff in the rain? It looks dry, only been a few hours though. Heading out soon.

I found it takes a few days to cure, so keep it dry if you can for a few days. When it gets wet, it will soften and therefore its ability to protect from pin stripes won't be as strong as if it was dry, but it won't peel off from the wind at 100km/Hr when wet if you apply it properly.

Mario

Russrobe
10th July 2016, 07:36 PM
I used a 10mm thick microfibre roller and a similar thinkness paintbrush for the cutting in. Must admit for a first attempt it was pretty good. About to take it all off and do another coat this week but it just saved us more pinstripes from a track which was too narrow for us! I didn't realize just how much it hardens and underestimated the drying time.

Here's a pick after today. Even though i went in the rain too early yesterday the side panels still did there job! Bumper and bonnet are half https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/833.jpghttps://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/834.jpgstripped though ohwel.

~Rich~
20th July 2016, 07:07 PM
2 coats minimum, 3 even better.

It makes it both tougher but also easier to get off when you want.



Remember any little bits of residue use a metho soaked cloth to dissolve them, the metho won't damage your paintwork.



I'll be cleaning mine up this weekend.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/347.jpg

LandyAndy
20th July 2016, 07:15 PM
When you are removing it could you take a few pics and post on this thread???
See if you can "split" a panel showing close up of the dirty treated section and the hopefully pristine panel under.:cool::cool::cool::cool:
Cheers
Andrew

~Rich~
20th July 2016, 07:25 PM
Here you go Andy, one I prepared earlier!
Note the removed coating on the concrete.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/339.jpg (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/VSK5/media/517914b7.jpg.html)

Here in this one I'm removing it by hand, it's not anywhere as fast as with a Gernie or Karcher.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/340.jpg (http://s193.photobucket.com/user/VSK5/media/2b438b4d.jpg.html)

LandyAndy
20th July 2016, 07:40 PM
Do you think it will help on the rear window to prevent stone chips/breaking???
I have stone chips in my rear glass and its done very few ks on gravel towing a trailer.
Andrew

~Rich~
20th July 2016, 07:47 PM
Small stones yes, bigger rocks that would break the window still.
BTW it will block rear vision through it.

LandyAndy
20th July 2016, 07:51 PM
Small stones yes, bigger rocks that would break the window still.
BTW it will block rear vision through it.

So does the camper trailer;);););););)
Mirrors and reverse cam would be fine when there is no CT.
Andrew

Russrobe
21st July 2016, 01:16 AM
Ahh Metho that was it. Thanks Rich, got a few tiny bits stuck on the bonnet still. Will give it a shot.

~Rich~
22nd July 2016, 03:25 PM
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/07/301.jpg

Clean!

DiscoMick
23rd July 2016, 01:08 PM
Our Mazda 2 came new with paint protection. You wouldnt know it was there unless you looked. To maintain the warranty you have to only use a supplied car wash as they say some products have too much sodium and break it down. At each service they refill the supplied car wash bottle. Seems to work.

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eddy
23rd July 2016, 07:28 PM
I tried to buy some Shield and Peel from our local paint store,did not have any but offered an alternative, Seal N Peel WB5000, even gave me a free sample.
There is a heavier duty version in the 8000 Why Choose Seal ?n? Peel? | AI Coatings (http://www.aicoatings.com.au/sealnpeel/)

LRD414
4th November 2016, 07:10 PM
So following the excellent advice in this thread I have started using the Paint Shield for the first time, getting one coat on one side done tonight.

I used a small microfibre roller.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/11/813.jpg

And this is what the first coat looked like while drying.
Do people who've used it reckon this looks ok for a first coat?
Looked pretty even after drying, just not sure how thick to go as a finished coating.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/11/814.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/11/815.jpg

The 4L container looks like it'll be good for many applications.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/11/354.jpg

Cheers,
Scott

Russrobe
4th November 2016, 07:20 PM
I used a thicker microfiber roller but should still be okay. Main thing is to get it to the correct thickness. I'm going to use a thick mils guage next time. Which will be soon=) It will be horrible to get off cleanly if it's too thin and this is more the reason to get it right than anything else. I learnt that from the last coat which I'm still removing in places.... 3 months later...

~Rich~
4th November 2016, 07:34 PM
If when you remove the coating you have some small residual bits of the Paint Shield left simply use a rag wet with some Metho to remove them without any damage to your paintwork.

LRD414
4th November 2016, 07:52 PM
What is a mils gauge?

DiscoMick
4th November 2016, 08:42 PM
I've got no idea about how to apply it, but our Mazda 2 came with it and it has certainly saved the paint from copping some scratches, so it seems worthwhile. I try to get the bird poo off quickly so it doesnt eat through it.
The dealer woman supplied some special car wash she said we had to use to maintain the warranty as she reckoned ordinary car washes contained some additives which could harm the film.

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Russrobe
4th November 2016, 09:41 PM
Oops wet mils guage116129 They recommend 10

mfpoli
5th November 2016, 06:21 AM
I have found the 'residual bits' are along the edges where you tend to get a feathered (ie. thin) rather than a thick coating. Also, certain parts such as the mirror covers have been difficult to remove from and therefore I apply an extra coat.

Be careful with the mils gauge. If you are using more than 1 litre to cover the sides and front, you may be wasting it.

Mario

LRD414
14th November 2016, 05:07 PM
Feedback on Paint Shield .... excellent product that worked exactly as described here, under very difficult conditions.

Applied 3 coats and this is definitely the key to robustness and ease of removal.

Rainy conditions on the weekend saw it go milky white but nothing came off and it hardened very quickly once the rains stopped.
Other guys I was with had it all coming off in big sheets and/or small patches in the rain due to being too thin, although some people had not used exactly the same product.

This is what it looked like after driving in rain.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/11/393.jpg

Here is removal in process. Used a gernie to get edges started and then just peeled off.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2016/11/394.jpg

As mentioned, the thinner feathered edges are fiddly to get off and I will mask some edges better next time, especially window surrounds and grooves in the wing mirrors.

We pushed through some overgrown lantana that was very "sticky" and sharp without any marks getting through the shield.
Will be using it again for certain.

Cheers,
Scott

Meken
19th November 2016, 08:33 AM
That is a pretty funny vid of James bonnet ballooning up when we were on the highway

LRD414
19th November 2016, 11:17 AM
I think his was not thick enough to handle the rain and stay on but thick enough to come off in a sheet.

Scott

Russrobe
19th November 2016, 11:46 AM
Did you have to wait days between applying coats or just wait until it's dry to touch then apply another?

LRD414
19th November 2016, 01:44 PM
Just dry to touch. 3 coats. James did either 1 or 2 coats only IIRC.

Also he used a different product that may not be as good but comparison not equal if different number of coats.

Scott

Chops
19th November 2016, 03:09 PM
Good feedback Scott, thanks.
This might save me some cash when we do Googs Track at Easter.

TuffRR
19th November 2016, 06:19 PM
How long does this stuff last for when applied before needing to be redone?

Mog60
20th November 2016, 12:19 AM
How long does this stuff last for when applied before needing to be redone?

I have used "Road Warrior plus" which I believe is a very similar product. The longest I have left it on for was about three months and in that time I didn't feel the need to go over it with an extra coat. It does seem to pick up the red dust colour though, which I don't mind. :)

Meken
20th November 2016, 09:47 AM
Shield & peel says good for 3 months on packaging

Macadamia
6th September 2020, 08:16 PM
Sorry to dredge up an old thread - I tried to message a few of the posters who've tried it but ya'll inboxes are full. The last post was from a good four years ago now are people still using the stuff? still think it's good/worth it?
For those that are - do you paint the wheel arches/flairs? What about the front and/or rear lights? How do you apply it to non-flat surfaces like the wheel arches?
Do you peel the masking tape off when it's wet to avoid lifting a sheet off or is that not an issue?

DiscoMick
6th September 2020, 09:23 PM
Our Mazda has it. It was done by the dealer 5 years ago. Has a couple of scratches in it, but otherwise it's fine.

LRD414
7th September 2020, 03:21 PM
Sorry to dredge up an old thread - I tried to message a few of the posters who've tried it but ya'll inboxes are full. The last post was from a good four years ago now are people still using the stuff? still think it's good/worth it?
For those that are - do you paint the wheel arches/flairs? What about the front and/or rear lights? How do you apply it to non-flat surfaces like the wheel arches?
Do you peel the masking tape off when it's wet to avoid lifting a sheet off or is that not an issue?
I'm still using Shield n Peel PaintShield, as recently as August for another Simpson crossing. Brilliant stuff, not a tear in it, no scratches to paint and more than worth the cost and time. And we went through some very sharp spinafex and other bushes, both in the desert and the Flinders. We also had severe wet weather and it handled that well without any loss of performance. The secret is three good coats with a good quality small roller.

I coat all painted surfaces including wheel arches that can get scratched and the rear light reflector which is on the side of the vehicle. I also do the bonnet for longer trips, this also helps with sun reflection when driving west. Masking tape is removed once it's dry but you still need to be careful as sometimes the edge of the shield can be lifted with the tape. Not sure if it would be better when still wet.

Shield n Peel for PAINTSHIELD (https://www.shieldnpeel.com.au/paintshield.html)

Cheers,
Scott

M005
30th September 2020, 09:34 AM
Another vote for Shield n Peel.

After reading about it on here I used it on my black D4 for a trip to Fraser Island last week.

Many of the inland tracks were overgrown and there were multiple times when there was that horrible scratching sound down the side of the car. After peeling the film off, the paintwork underneath was unmarked.

As Scott said, use three coats and it forms a decent layer.