How much room with o offset with 255/85R16

[Ringky]

Just looking into the best wheel dish to keep standard flares on defender. Does the zero offset with 255/85R16 still fit and work well.
Im refering to 16 × 7 rims
I currently have the +20 offset rims with 235/85 R16 but Im afraid ill loose even more turning circle when i go to the bigger tyre.

Advice appreciated in advance

Cheers
Chris

[n plus one]

Just looking into the best wheel dish to keep standard flares on defender. Does the zero offset with 255/85R16 still fit and work well.
Im refering to 16 × 7 rims
I currently have the +20 offset rims with 235/85 R16 but Im afraid ill loose even more turning circle when i go to the bigger tyre.

Advice appreciated in advance

Cheers
Chris

I have 255/85s on +10 offset rims - no rubbing, more lock than standard and well under the guards. Zero offset would still be under the guards on mine (09 110) and more lock again.

[rick130]

They appear right at the edge, but just under the flares.

[tcf]

Out of interest, what offset are these standard alloys on my 2010?

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/09/1446.jpg (http://s1101.photobucket.com/user/tcf19/media/7E1ED384-C9B0-4843-AC71-8DEE8E768D1E_zpskngy8cwf.jpg.html)

[Psimpson7]

+33mm

[frantic]

Standard are +33mm, ive got some UK spacers that move the wheels out 30mm, so basically zero offset, with 255/85 r16 bighorns on boost(16x7) alloys. The tyres are still just under the factory flares and they don't touch anything at full flex.
My next set will be -25mm 16x8 with flares.

[defrover]

If you can get your hands on sawtooth alloys you'll be fine . There +20mm offset and when fitted mine had about 15mm clearance from the radius arm at full lock

[Ringky]

Thanks all zero offset rims it is then

[MLD]

the white truck is wearing 255/85 on zero offset. the ute is wearing 315/75 on neg 25 offset.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/09/1401.jpg


MLD

[Didge]

So Frantic, can I buy spacers that sit behind the wheel to move them out bit? I'm running 33 x 10.5 BFG muddies and they're rubbing on the radius arms at full lock .

[frantic]

So Frantic, can I buy spacers that sit behind the wheel to move them out bit? I'm running 33 x 10.5 BFG muddies and they're rubbing on the radius arms at full lock .

Yes, from uk they are legal over there, just not here. They have them in numerous stores, paddocks, mm, dls, heaps of others just shop around. Also some stock spacer/adaptors so you could go from LR 5 stud 165 pattern to the D2, 5 stud 120 or merc pattern or Japanese Patterns. It is cheaper than getting new wheels but as I said not legal here. In saying that I've had them on for over 2 years and over 40,000 kms no issues.

[Didge]

Thanks frantic (Matthew isn't it? - I think we met during a Jellore SF trip a year or so ago - did you have a dark blue 110 with a couple of young kids on board?) - yeah I only need to push the tyres out a little bit. Would only be an issue in the event of an insurance claim I guess.
cheers Gerald

[frantic]

Yup:D
I have same attitude about insurance, as it helps stability by widening your track(you do notice going from normal +33 to 0 it feels more planted cornering)so the only thing that could be blamed for it to be the cause of an accident is if the wheel falls off, 40 nuts to ensure tight not 20,or it causes the bearings to fail. But if you fit 0 offset steel wheels your putting more strain on the bearings as they are heavier than factory boost alloys with aluminium/alloy spacer.


looked up a few, cant remember where I got mine but shop around as I found it may cost 10-20 pound more at one place but their postage is half the other price, so a cheaper total.
http://www.mm-4x4.com/alloy-wheel-spacers-set-of-4---30mm-classic-range-rover-discovery-1defender-2469-p.asp
http://www.simonbbc.com/aluminium-wheel-spacers
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http://www.paddockspares.com/pm753-30mm-aluiminium-wheel-spacers-set-of-4.html
http://www.lrparts.net/vehicle/defender/wheels-and-tyres/wheel-spacers-and-adapters.html
http://tyresdirectuk.co.uk/shop/product-info.php?prodname=Set-of-4-Wheel-Spacers--30mm-5x165.1-&id=32346


They seem to go from 90pound in uk - 155 pound($156-230 aussie) with one mob in Australia trying to charge $475, at that price it is to close to 5 new steel wheels.

[LouisW]

I am ordering Kahn 18x8 wheels what is the widest size try I can fit on the rims with out modifying. And what should the new profile be to maintain the same circumference ?

Rgs Louis

[Didge]

Matt, shame the spacers don't work with HD flanges :( thanks for posting the links though :)

[frantic]

Matt, shame the spacers don't work with HD flanges :( thanks for posting the links though :)


I've got maxi drive-hytuff-qld rear axles and flanges and they fit with the 30mm spacers. Mine are a ring with recess for the axle bolts but no bits sticking up in the middle like the bulldog ones, just 5 recess holes and 5 studs.

[frantic]

I am ordering Kahn 18x8 wheels what is the widest size try I can fit on the rims with out modifying. And what should the new profile be to maintain the same circumference ?

Rgs Louis



Not dumb, only dumb question is one not asked or one already answered.
Most manufacturers and the big online tyre shops have recommended sizes.
Tyre rack is pretty good as they list all the sizes for a brand recommended width rim and range, so BFG-mud Km2 in 285/70 r18 are recommended for your wheel size and equal 33.7 inches , legal on a defender. The bfg 305/60 r18 is 32.6 inches and recommends 8.5 min width but talk to a tyre shop as you may get away with that.
It also depends what is in stock in Australia as they don't bring all sizes here.
Click on specs and there is rim width range along with overall size and a lot of other info.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp'tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=Mud-Terrain+T%2FA+KM2
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp'tireMake=Goodyear&tireModel=Wrangler+MT%2FR+with+Kevlar

[MLD]

Matt, shame the spacers don't work with HD flanges :( thanks for posting the links though :)

The paddock version i bought accommodated the HD flanges. The 110 had spacers from day dot. 70,000 kms with them and no problems. That said I did have accelerated bearing wear but that might have been as much my driving technique and the 255/85 muddies. i'd expect the accelerated wear with steel rims too.

MLD