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tonyci
9th September 2014, 09:35 AM
Am I right in assuming that the main difference is  in the body configuration   
I assume they share the same engine gear / transfer case. And diffs.   
Is the chassis the same other then the longer wheelbase ?, I assume the suspension is similar with different rated springs and shocks. 
The reason I ask is that we are looking at a car that can be a tourer but also handy for small farm duties. 
Thanks in advance for any replies
Tony
uninformed
9th September 2014, 09:41 AM
17 inch longer wheel base. Cut and shunt 110 chassis with some subtle strengthening. Same running gear. Same rear coil as 110 trayback but with added smaller coil inside.
bcj
9th September 2014, 12:19 PM
Heavier load rated rims and gvm increase from 3050 to 3500 on 130
Brett
110 300 tdi
austastar
9th September 2014, 12:25 PM
And a large turning circle - treat traffic calming devices with the contempt they deserve.
cheers
XHPBT1
9th September 2014, 03:20 PM
I think also you loose traction control on the 130
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Beery
9th September 2014, 04:42 PM
You can get MY2015 130's with ABS, ETC, DSC all packaged together as an optional extra.
The chassis is no longer a "cut & shut"...that was only on the very early ones back in the 1980's.
Cheers
Tom
Bearman
9th September 2014, 06:02 PM
And heavier axle tubes in the rear diff (Salisbury) to handle the increase in GVM.
uninformed
9th September 2014, 06:04 PM
You can get MY2015 130's with ABS, ETC, DSC all packaged together as an optional extra.
The chassis is no longer a "cut & shut"...that was only on the very early ones back in the 1980's.
Cheers
Tom
not just the isuzu powered 120 inch JRA built. The 127/130 is still a 110 chassis cut and extended with a large overlaping fish plate in the mid section. They also have flat bar almost the entire length of the top flange of chassis front to back...
uninformed
9th September 2014, 06:05 PM
And heavier axle tubes in the rear diff (Salisbury) to handle the increase in GVM.
Any known differences in the later p38 type between 110 and 130? ?
Bearman
9th September 2014, 06:13 PM
Any known differences in the later p38 type between 110 and 130? ?
Can't help on that one, I know absolutely nothing about the P38 ones!
clive22
9th September 2014, 06:30 PM
Hi
I've got both a  110 wagon and 130 dual cab
The longer wheelbase improves ride and directional stability - great on dirt roads.
No flexy rear door on the 130 to let in dust into the cabin on long trips.
HVAC works better on 130 due to smaller cabin volume.
130 really is too big and throws too wide a steering arcs around town parking, etc. etc. Really does have a ramp over problem too over washouts.
In my experience 130 for desert touring (heaps of room) and carting stuff 110 for around town work and tight tracks.
Clive
Beery
9th September 2014, 06:50 PM
not just the isuzu powered 120 inch JRA built. The 127/130 is still a 110 chassis cut and extended with a large overlaping fish plate in the mid section. They also have flat bar almost the entire length of the top flange of chassis front to back...
I know its dicey to use wikipedia as a source, but I was going off this quote: 
"Along with the 200Tdi engine, the 127's name was changed to the "Land  Rover Defender 130". The wheelbase remained the same; the new figure was  simply a tidying up exercise. More importantly, 130s were no longer  built from "cut-and-shut" 110s, but had dedicated chassis built from  scratch."
uninformed
9th September 2014, 08:48 PM
I know its dicey to use wikipedia as a source, but I was going off this quote: 
"Along with the 200Tdi engine, the 127's name was changed to the "Land  Rover Defender 130". The wheelbase remained the same; the new figure was  simply a tidying up exercise. More importantly, 130s were no longer  built from "cut-and-shut" 110s, but had dedicated chassis built from  scratch."
 
To be honest, I dont work at Solihull so cant be 100% either. But ive stuck my head under 130s from 200tdi through to pumas. They all have a long fish plate c section on the midsection. Not sure why they couldn't just cut out one length chassis rails if doing a dedicated 130 chassis?
regardless chassis is fine and doesnt give too much trouble.  A small amount of cracking in the rear can appear in worked 130s over rough roads but doesn't tend to lead to failures.
Deelerock
11th September 2014, 09:15 PM
i just changed from a 110 to a 130, both pumas. the turning circle in both of them was terrible.  the biggest difference i have noticed so far is the ride.  Much more firm.
the length aint so bad.  still throw her arond a parking lot just as well as the 110.
2stroke
12th September 2014, 04:12 AM
To be honest, I dont work at Solihull so cant be 100% either. But ive stuck my head under 130s from 200tdi through to pumas. They all have a long fish plate c section on the midsection. Not sure why they couldn't just cut out one length chassis rails if doing a dedicated 130 chassis?
regardless chassis is fine and doesnt give too much trouble.  A small amount of cracking in the rear can appear in worked 130s over rough roads but doesn't tend to lead to failures.
Not sure what you mean by a long "C" section, mine has continuous rails but an outrigger is repeated 17" apart. I like my 130 for long distance work but for me it's a little large to wheel for fun. The turning circle is large in both I guess though.
2stroke
13th September 2014, 05:00 AM
Not sure what you mean by a long "C" section, mine has continuous rails but an outrigger is repeated 17" apart. I like my 130 for long distance work but for me it's a little large to wheel for fun. The turning circle is large in both I guess though.
 I think I know what you're getting at, the overlap section. Also a crossmember and outrigger are duplicated.
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