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101RRS
10th September 2014, 05:35 PM
I did a silly thing today :o

I left the ignition on in my RRS (2.7 TDV6) for about 3 hours. I was doing some work that needed the doors open and switched power on and to get rid of the annoying gong (key in ignition when door open) I switched the ignition on rather than on accessory.

Of course I got distracted by something else and then forgot about it until I came back to the work I was doing a few hours later.

Battery showing 6v and tried jump starting from a few different batteries where it would turn over but not fire up.

I now have the battery on the charger (12 amp) but the battery is 7 1/2 years old so I think in reality it will be going to the big charger in the sky.

So two questions:
1. When ignition is left on too long is there anything else like for example fuses or doing a hard reset etc do I need to have a look at.

2. For Canberra people - where is the best place to chase up a new battery?? And what batteries are available locally. I know LR have changed from the calcium battery I have now and gone to an AGM so what have local people bought and found suitable - cost? A few months back I did enquire at a local battery factory in Fyshwick and they were mainly interested in selling me a 650CCA (75Ah) battery (not a 950CCA (95Ah)) and dismissed my protests saying a larger battery was not needed. I disagreed.

I will leave the battery on charge at the full 12 amps for 3 hours to get some charge into it and then switch back to auto so the smart charger can do its thing.

Thanks

Garry

ytt105
10th September 2014, 06:06 PM
Believe it of not, I got my last battery from Costco. Cheaper than the Battery Factory and larger.

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Epic pooh
10th September 2014, 06:13 PM
Good run from that battery Gary, my OE battery died a natural death after a similar event at the 7 or so year mark - door open and stereo on for too long, flat battery, after a charge it came back for a couple of months then died a slow death in a polite gentle way (ie. tossed up various messages related to HDC, xfer case, gearbox etc all indicative of low voltage). I then changed it out to an Amaron Pro (in deference to Tata I think) which is an Indian made battery highly recommended by my battery guy. It's a slightly lower capacity than the OE battery but works fine (also have a Optima D34 & traxide kit so that may help) and was a reasonable price (and I trust the battery guy as I've known him for 25+ years).

Nothing special required after the flat battery, just charge it shove it in and off you go (hopefully, or off you go to get another one if it doesn't come back).

Good luck navigating the maze of suitable electricity containers :D

zilch
10th September 2014, 06:20 PM
My 3.5 year old Sport is on Battery number 2, and my old MY06 Sport was on its 3rd at the 130K / 5 year mark., so to get 7 years must be a very extraordinary milestone if it is the original one shipped

101RRS
10th September 2014, 07:53 PM
Thanks for the comments - I am not a Costco member so can't shop there.

After 2 hours at 12 amps the charger was still showing low charge but it did start first turn of the key.

I have now switched the charger to auto so will leave it over night and hopefully by tomorrow morning it will have gone into float mode.

The real test will be if it is able to hold the charge for any length of time but I am not having any expectation of it lasting long.

Cheers

Garry

Clelo
10th September 2014, 08:42 PM
Dave at Goodyear Autocorrect Gunghalin owns a D4 and help me over the phone with a tow hitch problem
Although I didn't meet him his boys sorted out my other problem with my RRS (a two month old battery going flat) and it has been working fine since
From my experience a battery with 750CCA or better is needed as this was my issue with the dealer fitting a new battery of 620CCA only
The low battery warning light came on after a week sitting idle in the garage just after I bought it. Since the new battery has been installed I have had no issues

jonesy63
10th September 2014, 08:58 PM
Hey Garry - you might want to try contacting Michael on here - his handle is rrturboD - and he is in Canberra. :cool:

101RRS
10th September 2014, 08:59 PM
Hey Garry - you might want to try contacting Michael on here - his handle is rrturboD - and he is in Canberra. :cool:

Yes I know the snake oil saleman - thanks

jonesy63
10th September 2014, 09:03 PM
Sorry - didn't know he was! :o

101RRS
10th September 2014, 09:10 PM
He is always trying to flog off stuff - he is my club's parts officer :)

Rob king
10th September 2014, 09:11 PM
Garry,
My RRS V8 has had the battery replaced, not sure when.
It's currently a nrma/racq/ racv etc branded calcium battery.
CCA 850 100Ah.
Maybe the petrol engines need less grunt?
Rob.

101RRS
11th September 2014, 05:23 PM
Well it looks like I dodged a bullet as the battery came back up and seems OK.

Was on the 3 stage smart charger over night and went into float OK.

Started Ok this morning and drove around OK today with no indications from the radio of low power from the battery.

I find it amazing that there are protocols in place to protect the car's systems and battery which can be annoying but LR do not have anything to save the systems if the ignition is left on.

The voltage did get so low that the time went from the radio and the radio frequency went to the lowest available but the presets remained.

Thanks for all the input - I guess I need to save for a new battery.

Cheers

Garry

lrdef110
11th September 2014, 05:41 PM
Not sure about D3's or earlier RRS but D4's require the battery monitoring module to be reset upon the replacement of a battery. Doubt if most battery suppliers have the LR systems or Autologic to do this so replacement should only be done by an organisation/supplier with this equipment. That's not to say a replacement battery just dropped in won't work, its just that the inbuilt battery monitoring system wont work.

Cheers

Goaroving
11th September 2014, 06:21 PM
Just had my battery replaced in Cairns. Dealer confirmed OEM battery is now AGM with 850cca. Battery monitoring module also needs resetting. (Had it done by LR dealer in Cairns).

101RRS
11th September 2014, 06:27 PM
Not sure about D3's or earlier RRS but D4's require the battery monitoring module to be reset upon the replacement of a battery.


Battery monitoring module also needs resetting. (Had it done by LR dealer in Cairns).

So if you disconnect the battery cables on the D4, like if you had to do a hard reset, you have to take it a dealer to have the battery monitoring module reset??

Seems odd.

Garry

Graeme
11th September 2014, 06:51 PM
I replaced my D4's battery 9 months ago without any subsequent drama. This is the first I've heard about having to reset the monitor after the battery is replaced and I've had my D4 for nearly 5 years.

Geedublya
12th September 2014, 04:01 AM
Much the same here replaced battery 4-5 months ago. Battery monitor is working the same as before as far as I can tell. Next time I leave the radio on and it tells me to start the car I will check the voltage.