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disco man
19th September 2014, 11:13 AM
If ever there was a volume booster dressed as a muscle car it was the HQ GTS 4-door in docile 253ci V8 automatic form.The XV4 was all about the V8 Rumble and those bonnet stripes.Story by Ben Stewart.

The Monaro GTS 4-door was released in March 1973 with the purpose of boosting HQ sales overall.The 4-door GTS was a kind of 'missing link' in a vast range of vehicles that covered every conceivable corner of the market.Up to this point,GM-H had offered the traditional sports-themed products as glamorous two-door vehicles.These were available in both the full-sized Holden car line as well as the smaller Torana line.

From the moment the Monaro had been launched in 1968 it was the company's unabashed cult car.Victories in the Bathurst 500 in 1968 (with the GTS 327) and 1969 (GTS 350) gave the stylish coupe extra street cred.Holden took any opportunity to promote the top-of-the-line GTS 350 model as its full-on muscle car.

When the HQ was first unveiled in mid-1971 it was obvious that the Monaro GTS was toned down substantially from the previous models.The all-new smooth HQ coupe was a beautifully designed and proportioned car.However,sales of the Holden coupe had been on the decline since 1970 and the all-new model failed to reverse this trend.Sure,the company still sold cars in vast numbers,but not like in the 'old days'.GM-H's head honchos were not impressed by the figures.

Director of sales John Bagshaw had an idea for a new car in the Holden line-up.This was a 4-door 'sporty' vehicle with real image.Bagshaw quickly determined such a car was missing from the vast HQ range.He came up with the SS and,as history shows,this model,released in August 1972,was an instant success,exceeding all expectations.

The SS incorporated some rather clever elements in the build configuration.The car had the base 253ci(4.2-litre) V8 engine mated to the standard 4-speed manual transmission.But in an effort to make it appeal to sporty-minded enthusiasts a performance 3.36;1 rear axle ratio along with dual exhausts were included as part of the package.Whilst not brilliant,the performance and overall appeal were way above what was normally expected for the low price of $3295 at the time.

The car looked hot,it went well and it certainly sounded the part.So it was win,win,win here.

Building on the SS,the decision was made-wrongly say many within the company-to apply the sacred nameplate Monaro to a 4-door GTS-specification sedan.If the SS was a good thing,this new car was going to be something else again,at least in the minds of its creators.
Yet,in essence,it was an optioned-up Kingswood V8 sedan.Herein lay the problem.

The entry level Monaro GTS 4-door (XV4) featured a 253 V8 (185bhp/138kw) with single exhaust,standard 4-speed manual transmission and a 3.08;1 rear axle.Thus,its performance-if you could call it that-didn't match its looks.
True,the GTS 350 version was a different story altogether,but the availability of the 253 took the gloss off the vehicle for many muscle car fans.

When creating the look of the GTS 4-door,the stylists were well aware of the visual impact of the SS.In an effort to make this new optioned-up Kingswood stand out (it was a 4-door sedan after all),extreme paint stripes on the bonnet and boot lid were included as a standard feature,along with blacked-out treatment in other strategic places.The car looked very loud to the point it also looked very fast.

Vented steel sports wheels (fitted with wide ER70H14 radials) added more visual impact.As predicted,the 4-door Monaro sold like hot cakes.It appealed to a wider cross-section,including the family man who once owned a GTS coupe yet still desired to be the envy of other drivers now that he tin-lids to taxi around.

Unfortunately for purists,this base specification Monaro GTS 4-door was rather dull in the performance stakes.An SS would blow it away big time given the benefit of dual exhausts and the 3.36;1 axle.But it got worse.
The optional Trimatic automatic version was even more of a slug.
The Trimatic version came mated to a towering 2.78;1 rear axle that took the edge (what little there was of it) off acceleration,to the point where a plain-Jane looking LJ Torana GTR could blow it into the weeds.

As car magazines of the day invariably tested the hot versions,we couldn't find any credible performance figures for the auto 253 version.
To get performance on a par with the SS,the buyer needed to choose the extra cost 308ci V8 engine that also came with the high-performance 4-speed manual and the 3.36;1 rear axle.Moving up the ladder further,the top-of-the-line XW8 specification was a GTS 350 4-door with a proper muscle car driveline including dual exhausts and LSD axle.

An HQ Monaro GTS 4-door with 253 V8 engine and Trimatic transmission in the hero colour of Mustard (yellow),a la WHEELS' March 1973 cover,is quite possibly the ultimate Australian-made image car that didn't go as hard as its looks suggested.
Its certainly muscular in its stance and appearance,but the thought of referring to it as an Australian muscle car is a difficult one for many.
If only looks could kill......

So what do you blokes think,Muscle car or pretender?
Me personally i think it's all show and very little go,but i would not turn one down if it was offered.
Whats your thoughts?

101RRS
19th September 2014, 11:24 AM
Was no muscle car - mutton dressed up as lamb - and should never had the Monaro badge.

At the time the SS was considered to be the cheap and cheerful version of the 4 door Monaro. The sporty version of the Kingswood should have always been the SS and leave the Monaro name with the 2 door.

Cheers

Garry

Bigbjorn
19th September 2014, 12:25 PM
garrycol, the SS was a Belmont 80269 in fancy dress. It was sold as a package, no options available. The 4 door Monaro was a Kingswood 80469 and could be ordered with the full range of optional equipment. Marketing needed a full size performance car to take the place of the Monaro GTS which were no longer being raced under factory auspices. The racing and performance image being handed to the Torana to promote Torana. There were very few base model 4 door GTS made. Most dealers and customers preferring to option them up. Coupe sales had been declining so the decision was made to run with a 4 door. SS were in demand. Their popularity resulted in an internal scandal at GM-H. A number of staff (a couple at managerial level) were sacked for buying SS ex company fleet and selling them immediately to dealers. Staff were obliged to keep a car bought from the company for 12 months.

disco man
19th September 2014, 12:31 PM
To me the GTS name should only be used for the most powerful cars in the range.The fact a much cheaper SS could kick its ass must have been a hard thing for owners to take.

Bigbjorn
19th September 2014, 06:55 PM
The GTS Monaro was available in HK, HT, HG with a full range of engines. 186S, 253, 308, 307, 327, 350A, 350M all being used at different periods.

disco man
19th September 2014, 07:09 PM
The GTS Monaro was available in HK, HT, HG with a full range of engines. 186S, 253, 308, 307, 327, 350A, 350M all being used at different periods.

I see your point mate,I think of the GTS as muscle car more than an option pack or listing.What are your thoughts on the Monaro name being used on a 4-door? At the last all Holden day up here there was some 'healthy' talk among Holden fans who think it should never have been used on the 4-door.

Mick_Marsh
19th September 2014, 07:29 PM
I thought you could option arm rests on a SS and most people did.
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pop058
19th September 2014, 07:48 PM
Was no muscle car - mutton dressed up as lamb - and should never had the Monaro badge.

At the time the SS was considered to be the cheap and cheerful version of the 4 door Monaro. The sporty version of the Kingswood should have always been the SS and leave the Monaro name with the 2 door.

Cheers

Garry

Not that I am a Red fan, but I do not recall seeing a "Monaro" badge on the SS. AFAIK they were just a "Holden (Super Sport) SS".

Mick_Marsh
19th September 2014, 08:18 PM
Not that I am a Red fan, but I do not recall seeing a "Monaro" badge on the SS. AFAIK they were just a "Holden (Super Sport) SS".
Yep. Back in the days of the SS, there were no 4 door Monaros. When the 4 door Monaros were being manufactured, the SS had long been out of production.

pop058
19th September 2014, 08:34 PM
Yep. Back in the days of the SS, there were no 4 door Monaros. When the 4 door Monaros were being manufactured, the SS had long been out of production.

There was 2 and 4 door Monaros in the HQ range. What I believe is that the HQ SS was never referred to by GM as a Monaro. It was just a Holden SS.

disco man
19th September 2014, 08:46 PM
There was 2 and 4 door Monaros in the HQ range. What I believe is that the HQ SS was never referred to by GM as a Monaro. It was just a Holden SS.

That's what i thought too,

101RRS
19th September 2014, 08:48 PM
Yep. Back in the days of the SS, there were no 4 door Monaros. When the 4 door Monaros were being manufactured, the SS had long been out of production.

It is over 40 years ago but I do seem to remember the four door Monaro being sold at the same time as the SS in 73 but there may have been an overlap period with both on the showroom floor but not a production overlap.

"The SS certainly had not been long out of production" as they were only released in late 72 and were certainly still in production during the first half of 73 when the first 4 door Monaros were released in Mar 73 - so the SS had only been around for 6 months before the Monaro was released.

101RRS
19th September 2014, 08:49 PM
Not that I am a Red fan, but I do not recall seeing a "Monaro" badge on the SS. AFAIK they were just a "Holden (Super Sport) SS".

That is correct - they never carried the same badging.

CraigE
20th September 2014, 01:24 PM
Then there was also the LS Monaro.
Npt sure what you guys mean by Muscle Car as there is no real defined rul about what constitutes one. Usually a collectible car (which all these are), Usually a V8 but not always (these were), Usually slight different body work and options package over standard (yes), Usually alternate name and badges (yes). Sometime a better performance package.
Not sure what you expect, would it have been better with a 350 Chev?
We could put up a huge list here what does and does not constitute a true Muscle Car.
I would even class a lot of base models that have been done up us Muscle Cars.
Is a GTR Torana a Muscle Car?
Is an XY GS a Muscle Car?
Is a 6 pack Charger a Muscle Car?

disco man
20th September 2014, 01:49 PM
Then there was also the LS Monaro.
Npt sure what you guys mean by Muscle Car as there is no real defined rul about what constitutes one. Usually a collectible car (which all these are), Usually a V8 but not always (these were), Usually slight different body work and options package over standard (yes), Usually alternate name and badges (yes). Sometime a better performance package.
Not sure what you expect, would it have been better with a 350 Chev?
We could put up a huge list here what does and does not constitute a true Muscle Car.
I would even class a lot of base models that have been done up us Muscle Cars.
Is a GTR Torana a Muscle Car?
Is an XY GS a Muscle Car?
Is a 6 pack Charger a Muscle Car?

You raise some very interesting points there Craig,Your spot on in regards to what is a Muscle car.For me if it looks fast it should be fast.But your right there is no rule book stating what a 'true muscle car' is.

Bigbjorn
20th September 2014, 02:27 PM
You raise some very interesting points there Craig,Your spot on in regards to what is a Muscle car.For me if it looks fast it should be fast.But your right there is no rule book stating what a 'true muscle car' is.

My opinion is that a Muscle Car has one of the "Big Block" engines. Chrysler 383+, Ford 390+, Chev. 396+, Buick 455, and so on. The ultimate being a Mopar Performance after-market Hemi 426.

Pickles2
20th September 2014, 03:59 PM
My opinion is that a Muscle Car has one of the "Big Block" engines. Chrysler 383+, Ford 390+, Chev. 396+, Buick 455, and so on. The ultimate being a Mopar Performance after-market Hemi 426.
Mopar 426 Hemi...awesome,...even more awesome in my favourite Muscle Car,...Dodge Challenger 426 Hemi R/T, as seen (it wasn't a real one) in the original "Vanishing Point" starring Barry Newman, now a Muscle Car cult movie.
Anyway, the HQ SS is now a collectors item, & a Monaro HQ 253 Auto, is not a "Muscle Car",...IMHO.
PIckles.

mick88
20th September 2014, 04:06 PM
Back in the HK, HT, HG days there was a Monaro (non GTS) available that just had the standard 186 motor too!

Cheers, Mick.

pop058
20th September 2014, 04:15 PM
I would have thought the LS Monaro was just a 2 door Premier with no go fast bits. The 6 cylinder option in the LS was very common. So definitely NOT a Muscle Car,.

pop058
20th September 2014, 04:20 PM
My opinion is that a Muscle Car has one of the "Big Block" engines. Chrysler 383+, Ford 390+, Chev. 396+, Buick 455, and so on. The ultimate being a Mopar Performance after-market Hemi 426.

So what is your definition of an Australian Muscle Car or don't we have them because we don't run big blocks ??

Mick_Marsh
20th September 2014, 04:22 PM
Is a GTR Torana a Muscle Car? YES
Is an XY GS a Muscle Car? YES
Is a 6 pack Charger a Muscle Car? YES
A Hyundai Excel is not.


The Monaro LS was the more luxuriously appointed two door for the more discerning buyer. Sort of like what a Premier was to a Kingswood.

Mick_Marsh
20th September 2014, 04:26 PM
Back in the HK, HT, HG days there was a Monaro (non GTS) available that just had the standard 186 motor too!

Cheers, Mick.
They had the 186S motor. A little more performance than a 186. A mate had one, the car, which was his daily drive. He sold it for bugger all. I would love to have that car today, a real collectable.

Pickles2
20th September 2014, 04:31 PM
I would have thought the LS Monaro was just a 2 door Premier with no go fast bits. The 6 cylinder option in the LS was very common. So definitely NOT a Muscle Car,.
You could actually option the LS with a 350, & I'm pretty sure, but not dead certain that you could in the HK series get the Monaro with a 161 in it? But I'm not sure. I'm a member of the Monaro Club, & at the Nationals I've seen this beige coloured HK Monaro, I thought it was a 161, but it could've been a 186, but anyway it had just about every period GM accessory on it,....always winning trophies,....but not my sort of car.
Pickles.

disco man
20th September 2014, 04:32 PM
So what is your definition of an Australian Muscle Car or don't we have them because we don't run big blocks ??

Thats a very good question,I think Australia has had many Muscle cars over the years and still does.Whats your recipe for a muscle car Mr pop?

mick88
20th September 2014, 09:26 PM
They had the 186S motor. A little more performance than a 186. A mate had one, the car, which was his daily drive. He sold it for bugger all. I would love to have that car today, a real collectable.

Mick the 186 was also available in the Monaro, the GTS Monaro had the 186S and no doubt it was an optional extra in the non GTS Monaro.
A friends father had a Kingswood with the 186S in it! He purchased it new and opted for the 186S motor.
Some 186 Monaro's listed here.

http://www.discountusedcars.com.au/trade-in.aspx'make=holden&family=monaro&year=1969

Cheers, Mick

Pickles2
21st September 2014, 07:01 AM
Just checked my Monaro records, yes you could have a 161 in an HK Monaro if you so desired,...can't understand why you would though.
We're actually going on a run with the Monaro Club today, so I will definitely see some nice ones.
Pickles.

mick88
21st September 2014, 07:48 AM
Thats a very good question,I think Australia has had many Muscle cars over the years and still does.Whats your recipe for a muscle car Mr pop?





Maybe "Muscle Cars" made muscle or needed muscle to drive them!
Heavy clutches, ordinary brakes, armstrong steering etc!
As Bob Jane once said of the Camaro's and similar cars of the era,
"these cars had balls"


Cheers, Mick.

mick88
21st September 2014, 08:03 AM
My old HK Monaro.


Cheers, Mick.

StephenF10
21st September 2014, 08:18 AM
Back in the HK, HT, HG days there was a Monaro (non GTS) available that just had the standard 186 motor too!

Cheers, Mick.

The HK GTS also came with the 186S motor. IMHO it was a mistake to have a 6-cyl GTS as it devalued the whole GTS range. Ford did not make that mistake with the GT.

Below is my 327.

CraigE
21st September 2014, 11:39 AM
I would still class the 253 as a Muscle car, much in the same way a Ford Mustang 289 is still included.
The 253 was a high reving engine that would last, Basically same block as the 308 with more reliability. The 308 red motor was regarded by most of us to be a time bomb, drive it hard and it was a matter of time until it went bang.
The ability to rev higher in the 253 and flat shifting meant the little Torana could beat many higher HP cars on the quarter. I wont go into quarter mile time achieved in this thing in stock form as most would not believe them and are substantially less than the factory figures. Only mod at the time was a 3.55 LSD instead of the 3.08.
A lot of people bought the 253 for this very reason.

CraigE
21st September 2014, 11:41 AM
The HK GTS also came with the 186S motor. IMHO it was a mistake to have a 6-cyl GTS as it devalued the whole GTS range. Ford did not make that mistake with the GT.

Below is my 327.

Nice, hope that was a handbrake turn not a loss of control.:D
Used to do them in a certain spot in the Torana to park at a look out. Mate in a V8 Kingswood thought he could do the same and put his straight into a pole.

Bigbjorn
21st September 2014, 07:06 PM
It appears you guys need a lesson in GM-H model codes. So in order, the numeric codes used on HT,HG, HQ are under

8 = Australia; 0, 1, 2 = body and trim; 1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 8, = engine, even no is a V8 and odd number is a six; last two, 11, 70, 80, 35, 69, 37, 77 = body style. 11 = two door sedan, 70 =- van, 80 = ute, 35 = wagon, 69 = four door sedan, 37 = notch back coupe, 77 = fast back coupe.

So an 80369, the most common, is a Kingswood 6 cyl. four door sedan. 81169 is a Premier same.

The principal identifier is the tag number as it was called in house. A letter followed by six numbers. This will identify the assembly plant and is how the production data was filed at service records. It is the only way of identifying a Torana factory fitted with RPO XU1. Monaros were made as Monaro, Monaro GTS, Monaro GTS350 (81837), and in the HQ series as LS (Luxury Sport). LS were not considered internally as high performance cars but pose cars like a Valiant Regal or a Ford Landau.

justinc
21st September 2014, 07:16 PM
The HK GTS also came with the 186S motor. IMHO it was a mistake to have a 6-cyl GTS as it devalued the whole GTS range. Ford did not make that mistake with the GT.

Below is my 327.


Looks like the top of mt wellington?

Nice Monaro :cool:

JC

StephenF10
21st September 2014, 07:39 PM
Looks like the top of mt wellington?

Nice Monaro :cool:

JC
Yes. There was nobody else there so I was doing a few "hot" laps around the summit.

Stephen.