The French air force attacks ISIS

[bob10]

Not that long ago the yanks were calling them cheese eating surrender monkeys, which I did not agree with, Bob


BBC News - France launches first air strikes on IS in Iraq (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29277630)

[p38arover]

Not that long ago the yanks were calling them cheese eating surrender monkeys, which I did not agree with, Bob

But they are cheese eaters. They make over 700 different kinds of cheese.

[korg20000bc]

But they are cheese eaters. They make over 700 different kinds of cheese.
That would make them Cheese-making surrender monkeys.

Highly blessed.

[p38arover]

Good point. But I was assuming they'd eat some - unless they are building another Maginot Line with them.

[korg20000bc]

Good point. But I was assuming they'd eat some - unless they are building another Maginot Line with them.
The French- they are a funny race
They fight with their feet and the "Ahem" with their face

[bob10]

That would make them Cheese-making surrender monkeys.

Highly blessed.


Absolutely, Bob


Life of Brian - Blessed are the cheesemakers - YouTube

[ramblingboy42]

That would make them Cheese-making surrender monkeys.

Highly blessed.

blessed be the cheese makers

too slow.....

[Chucaro]

There is nothing wrong with the French cheese and wine :)

[S3ute]

They also made Mirages and Exocets.....................

[strangy]

.....,and know how to put together a few "Nukes"

[TerryO]

Good point. But I was assuming they'd eat some - unless they are building another Maginot Line with them.


Maybe that was also the problem the first time around, if they had used concrete instead of cheese it may have worked.

Either that or make it out of a good strong blue, everyone knows Germans only like bland food. ... ;)

[Chucaro]

Maybe that was also the problem the first time around, if they had used concrete instead of cheese it may have worked.

Either that or make it out of a good strong blue, everyone knows Germans only like bland food. ... ;)

Have you the opportunity to taste the Limburger cheese?

[justinc]

But they are cheese eaters. They make over 700 different kinds of cheese.

Monty Python - Cheese Shop - YouTube


:)

JC

[Bigbjorn]

Not that long ago the yanks were calling them cheese eating surrender monkeys, which I did not agree with, Bob


BBC News - France launches first air strikes on IS in Iraq (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29277630)

Was it not once said that comparing states of national preparedness the USA has Defcon 1, 2, 3, 4 and the French have run, hide, surrender, collaborate.

[85 county]

Was it not once said that comparing states of national preparedness the USA has Defcon 1, 2, 3, 4 and the French have run, hide, surrender, collaborate.

interesting, when did they run? hide? surrender or collaborate?

[Chucaro]

interesting, when did they run? hide? surrender or collaborate?

Perhaps was Rene in Allo Allo? :angel:

Then again I do not think so :D

[korg20000bc]

interesting, when did they run? hide? surrender or collaborate?
Whenever our fancy desires it.

You know Winston Churchill's "We shall fight them on the beaches..." speech?
He wrote it so that a speaker of the Middle English language would be able to understand it except for the "We will never surrender" which is a French word and concept.
Winston Churchill - We Shall Fight them on the beaches - YouTube

[Hoges]

Whatever their motives, the fact is that France is currently plagued with internal friction between different ethnic groups. Arguments about wearing the burqa etc are simply a manifestation of a very deep divide. They have had a series of bombings and shootings over the past several years as a result of politically motivated violence. There is no doubt that their security people and ours are as well as those of Germany, Britain etc are sharing info. Ask teachers in some areas about the tribal divide amongst 2nd and third generation children of middle eastern parents in our high schools... !

Frankly I get very ****ed off with the continual cynicism on these matters... it is a real issue and I am pleased to see whoever is in the chair doing something about it. Look what happened when the USA hesitated to intervenve in Kosovo in the early days...Europe looked the other way and genocide became the norm

..Russia et al have not stepped up in Africa re. the Ebola epidemic... but American parents are expected to send their sons and daughters there as well because no-one else will. I certainly don't agree with US policy "all the way"... but let's be gracious enough to give credit where it is due...

[Bigbjorn]

interesting, when did they run? hide? surrender or collaborate?

Try 1940 -1945.

[Bushie]

interesting, when did they run? hide? surrender or collaborate?

The French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from "Run" to "Hide". The only two higher levels in France are "Surrender" and "Collaborate". The rise was precipitated by a recent fire that destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively paralysing the country's military capability. :)

[korg20000bc]

Whatever their motives, the fact is that France is currently plagued with internal friction between different ethnic groups. Arguments about wearing the burqa etc are simply a manifestation of a very deep divide. They have had a series of bombings and shootings over the past several years as a result of politically motivated violence. There is no doubt that their security people and ours are as well as those of Germany, Britain etc are sharing info. Ask teachers in some areas about the tribal divide amongst 2nd and third generation children of middle eastern parents in our high schools... !

Frankly I get very ****ed off with the continual cynicism on these matters... it is a real issue and I am pleased to see whoever is in the chair doing something about it. Look what happened when the USA hesitated to intervenve in Kosovo in the early days...Europe looked the other way and genocide became the norm

..Russia et al have not stepped up in Africa re. the Ebola epidemic... but American parents are expected to send their sons and daughters there as well because no-one else will. I certainly don't agree with US policy "all the way"... but let's be gracious enough to give credit where it is due...
One of my brother's freinds went to the US and he said that everywhere he went the yanks wouldn't let him pay for meals once they learned he was Australian. "We don't have many allies so we need to look after them." was what he was told.

That's pretty good!

[Pickles2]

Yeah Hoges, there's a few U.S. "Knockers" on here, I ain't one of 'em.
They've done some great things, I remember during the "First" Iraqi War, there was a terrible cyclone/storm in India, can't remember exactly what it was, but it was really bad, & George Bush Snr diverted the US 6th Fleet there to help. Don't know of any other Country that does that sort of stuff,...but they get very little credit for it?
Of course, they've done some not so good stuff too, but IMHO, the good far out weighs the bad.
Pickles.

[85 county]

Try 1940 -1945.

and what exactly happened in 40-45 that leads you to believe they

run? hide? surrender or collaborate?

[ramblingboy42]

85 county...you want a spoon or a stick?

[85 county]

85 county...you want a spoon or a stick?

the fact remains that in the case of the French, to say thay run? hide? surrender or collaborate?. is simply untrue, regardless of many jokes claiming that it is.

[sashadidi]

the fact remains that in the case of the French, to say thay run? hide? surrender or collaborate?. is simply untrue, regardless of many jokes claiming that it is.

Indeed........ I had a little to do with the french army way back in my younger era.
According to the British historian Niall Ferguson, France has participated in 168 major European wars since 387 BC, out of which they have won 109, drawn 10 and lost 49: this makes France the most successful military power in European history - in terms of number of fought and won

French Armed Forces - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Armed_Forces)

[Chucaro]

De Gaulle lived in Hampstead, England 1942 to 1944 ad from there he directed the resistance.
No one considered as action of run away from the German invasion, it was a tactic retreat seven supported by Churchill.
Churchill said about De Gaulle:

"He felt it was essential to his position before the French people that he should maintain a proud and haughty demeanour towards "perfidious Albion", although in exile, dependent upon our protection and dwelling in our midst. He had to be rude to the British to prove to French eyes that he was not a British puppet. He certainly carried out this policy with perseverance".

[bob10]

When I posted this, I did not mean it to be a go at the French. Perhaps I was misunderstood. The saying came from a " Simpsons " cartoon episode, and taken up by US politicians when the French refused to join the coalition against Iraq in 2003. I have always thought it bit rich for Americans to knock the French , when without the French Fleet, they would not have been victorious in the Revolutionary War. And , the French had lost over a million men, before the Americans decided to take up the fight in WW1. As one prominent observer has said, the Americans don't have allies, they have interests. Bob

[Chucaro]

You may be sure that the Americans will commit all the stupidities they can think of, plus some that are beyond imagination.
Charles de Gaulle

[Pickles2]

You may be sure that the Americans will commit all the stupidities they can think of, plus some that are beyond imagination.
Charles de Gaulle
Like I said, this site has some U.S. "Knockers", who will never, ever, give credit for the GOOD things that the U.S. has done, and they have done plenty.
Chuc, Had the U.S.not been on our side in WW11, & been in the Pacific where hundreds of thousands of U.S. boys died, fighting for freedom in this part of the World,you wouldn't have been living the life you lead in the lovely place that is Tasmania, which without the "help" of the U.S. would most certainly have been under the control of "Mr. Nippon".
Pickles.

[Chucaro]

Like I said, this site has some U.S. "Knockers", who will never, ever, give credit for the GOOD things that the U.S. has done, and they have done plenty.
Chuc, Had the U.S.not been on our side in WW11, & been in the Pacific where hundreds of thousands of U.S. boys died, fighting for freedom in this part of the World,you wouldn't have been living the life you lead in the lovely place that is Tasmania, which without the "help" of the U.S. would most certainly have been under the control of "Mr. Nippon".
Pickles.

Easy Pickles, if Russia have not sacrificed millions of life we do not know what will be now.
It was not USA that won the war, give credit to the other people from many nations as well.

I posted one fron Charles De Gaulle that he used to have more knowledge about the Americans and the third front than you and me.
now I post a quote of Roosevelt to be even :)

The things that will destroy America are prosperity-at-any-price, peace-at-any-price, safety-first instead of duty-first, the love of soft living, and the get-rich-quick theory of life.
Theodore Roosevelt

Food for thoughts I guess..................

[Pickles2]

Chuc, years ago I knew a German Tank Commander from WW11, & we talked about all sorts of stuff, including various thoughts, documentaries, theories about this & that relative to WW11, about why they lost & the Allies won etc etc.
His own words to me were "We were beating the **** out of everyone until the U.S. entered the War.We simply could not cope with the might of the U.S.A."
As far as Russia is concerned, if they had not been supplied with stuff from the U.S., they would not have made the Victories that they did. (And hey,don't get me wrong, I'm glad they did!
Pickles.

[Chucaro]

Pickles, I do have not intention to not give credit to the USA and the sacrifice of their soldiers helping to stop Germany and Japan.
It will be no justice and respect for all the life lost and sacrifice of the soldiers and civilians if we give credit to a hand full of countries.
All those involved are in out thoughts and gratitude.
Regarding your impression that I am USA knocker, I have appreciate what the American people have done and doing for the progress in science and their sacrifice for their beliefs.
I have American friends and many of them do not have much resspect for their leaders, present and pass.
I do not have any respect for those in power (in any country for that matter) that in the name of greed for power to impose their political views, financial gains, etc at the cost of human life.
Cheers

[Pickles2]

Your last line could apply to almost any Country in the world, at some point in time in their history, & when it suited them to take the "unsavoury" actions that you speak of,& which are to some extent true.
But like I said my friend, the U.S. has done lots of good stuff too, just that it appears to me that you, and others, (not just on this forum of course) seem to focus a bit more on the negative stuff?
Pickles.

[Chucaro]

Your last line could apply to almost any Country in the world, at some point in time in their history, & when it suited them to take the "unsavoury" actions that you speak of,& which are to some extent true.
But like I said my friend, the U.S. has done lots of good stuff too, just that it appears to me that you, and others, (not just on this forum of course) seem to focus a bit more on the negative stuff?
Pickles.

Pickles, you have to see from where (country and region) coming the people that have found more negative than positive or better instead how serious were the negative aspects to cancel the positive ones.
We all have different experiences in life and our points of view are formed in relation to them.
Cheers

[Pickles2]

Pickles, you have to see from where (country and region) coming the people that have found more negative than positive or better instead how serious were the negative aspects to cancel the positive ones.
We all have different experiences in life and our points of view are formed in relation to them.
Cheers
Agree.
Pickles.

[Chucaro]

Are we?

Islamic State: United States, partner nations begin air strikes in Syria, the Pentagon says (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-23/us-begin-air-strikes-in-syria-pentagon-says/5762848)

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Easy Pickles, if Russia have not sacrificed millions of life we do not know what will be now.
It was not USA that won the war, give credit to the other people from many nations as well.

<snip>
Food for thoughts I guess..................Absolutely, Soviet Russia fought and won 90% of the battles in the European theatre that lead to the capitulation of the Nazis. However had they not signed a non-agression pact with the Japanese, they may have had less success against Germany, because it was the release of the divisions from Siberia that allowed them to initially stop and start the push back of the Nazis in the first place.

Had the Japanese had to contend with the Soviets early in the Pacific War they may not have made the gains they did.

We will never know because its history, although the revisionists may think diffierently.

[bob10]

Step by step, Bob


Israel Shoots Down Syrian MiG Fighter Jet Over Golan Heights - NBC News (http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-shoots-down-syrian-mig-fighter-jet-over-golan-heights-n209406)

[bob10]

Absolutely, Soviet Russia fought and won 90% of the battles in the European theatre that lead to the capitulation of the Nazis.




And lost 100% that didn't. Think that 90% is a bit off the mark, Bob

[bob10]

Footage of the latest air strikes , Bob


BBC News - US military releases footage showing strikes on IS targets (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-29333709)

[bob10]

And more, Bob


BBC News - US begins air strikes against Islamic State in Syria (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29321236)

[AllTerr]

And more, Bob


BBC News - US begins air strikes against Islamic State in Syria (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29321236)

It sure looks like they don't mind using "infidel" transportation when need be....


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[bob10]

It keeps on getting better.... Bob




BBC News - What is the Khorasan Group? (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29350271)

[bob10]

A map of the areas of interest, Bob




BBC News - Battle for Iraq and Syria in maps (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-27838034)