Old Motorbike - please identify

[Quiggers]

This is a photo of my wife's dad when he was in his twenties, taken maybe 1948, but actual date unknown.

Any idea what the bike is? I have an idea, but I'm not an expert in this era of bikes and I'd (we'd) like some help. I do recognise the amal carby, and I suspect his pride and joy was British.

Thanks all, cheers, GQ

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/05/311.jpg

[JohnE]

Let me hazard a guess could be a Vincent but am not sure if they had a single pot , looks british, maybe
it could be a 1939 AJS like this, similar profile, but the pot sits differently,the pillion is sort of similar

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2007/05/310.jpg

why don't you try asking the national motorcycle museum, at nabiac they may know

http://www.nationalmotorcyclemuseum.com.au/index.html



john

[JohnE]

You haven't got it in the garage by any chance?



john

[100I]

I have a huge box full of classic motorcycle magazines, it will be in them somewhere. The fins on the casing suggest the engine was built in-house, not just any engine shoehorned into it as was the custom at that time.

[jake]

G'day,

I think the bike is a BSA Sloper era is somewhere after 1930.

Not a hundred % but the shape of the motor is similar.:)

[Jeff]

The bike is a P & M Panther, actually a Red Panther and is either a 250 or 350 model, possibly a Model 60. My guess is it is a 1946 model as pre war models had a hand shift and the 1947 models had Dowty (telescopic) forks whereas your one has Webb girder forks.

Jeff

[Quiggers]

Thank you Jeff. Found a P&M website and there it is...

Not in my garage John. Looks like a fascinating ride.

Cheers, GQ

[Pedro_The_Swift]

yea, like most bikes from then,, it probably went very well,,
as for stopping,,,,,:eek:

[Quiggers]

Jeff wins this one, thanks muchly on behalf of my many inlaw family members.

The bros in law aren't in to bikes of the era - and were lost (as in ID),

like JohnE said, I was kinda thinking an AJS or a BSA, and I got to about post war forties, the 'Panther' only very vaguely rings a bell...

having this info re P&M opens a qhole new chapter in the research being conducted by my wifes eldest brother,

AULRO should be recognised for its extraordinary abilities and awarded accordingly.....

GQ

[Bush65]

Great call Jeff.

But I would like to know, how did he stop his hat from blowing off ;)

[harry]

pedro, you know why pommie bikes didn't stop.
wasn't the brakes.
it was the oil dripping out in front of the tyre.

[Bigbjorn]

Definitely a Panther. Panthers were mostly used as a sidecar tug which hurt their performance image. Nice looking bikes when restored and schmick, particularly the big 600 singles with their long wheelbase, sloper engine and twin exhausts.

[Quiggers]

Thanks Brian, was talking to my Dad (who's 73) about it earlier today, said much the same, also said they were not common in Aust, unlike BSA or AJS, or Ariel or HD, or Matchless, which I'd forgotten. Reckoned the Panther was a pretty flash bike in its time, whereas Ariels, HDs and Indians were the regular stuff.

This picture is helping to open up a past of a much admired man who passed away at just 39 (bad heart) and the imagery says much, if a little hidden. The pic is on a property west of Kyogle.

GQ

[Jeff]

Great call Jeff.

But I would like to know, how did he stop his hat from blowing off ;)

My grandfather used to ride bikes in the same era, in fact he did stunt shows for the NSW police, and in all the photos he is wearing a hat.

You see in the days before myxomatosis rabbit fur used in hats had more elastic properties and you could ride your bike on the roads of the day without having to worry about losing your hat. Being so soon after the depression they couldn't afford new hats anyway, unless they were the man who sold clothes props.

Jeff