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geodon
24th September 2014, 04:33 PM
The 1st one I bought failed after 18 months & the second one wasn't much better.
One won't darken & t'other won't lighten & at ~$70 a pop I'm unimpressed.
They are the solar powered versions.
I believe there are battery operated versions about.
Are they anymore reliable??
rijidij
24th September 2014, 06:02 PM
The helmet should have a battery in it and the solar panel extends the life of the battery.
At $70 it would be considered a cheap auto darkening helmet. I paid $250 for my Migomag helmet about four years ago and only replaced the battery once in that time, it's never failed to work and I weld nearly every day.
At the top of the scale are Speedglas helmets, this one is AU$565 Speedglas (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3M-Speedglas-9002X-FX-FlexView-Auto-Darkening-Welding-Helmet-Hornell-Speedglass-/331302452129?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d232a3ba1)
Cheers, Murray
Toxic_Avenger
24th September 2014, 06:26 PM
You can bank on about 1500 hrs welding use on a set of batteries in a Speedglas. IMO, a decent helmet is an investment both in ease of welding, and for your own protection (safety first! you need those eyeballs!). Budget anywhere from 350 to 650 for a decent helmet. Ones with supplied air/ positive pressure units go for much higher. Speedglas has the advantage of a kickass warranty and every part is replaceable.
There is a lot of cheap and cheerful auto helmets out there, where most of them fall short is their reaction times (upon arc initiation), their sensitivity (flicking when grinding for example), their ability to pick up the arc (poor quality photosensors) or just not suitable for low amperage welding... such as TIG welding.
If you are not welding rocket ships, and only use it once a year, a $10 flip front with fixed shade lens is still the best option. It will outlast the operator!
18mths is not a bad run if you use it every day. If it was in the shed for all bar 10hrs of welding it is a different story though.
Toxic_Avenger
24th September 2014, 06:32 PM
At the top of the scale are Speedglas helmets, this one is AU$565 Speedglas (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3M-Speedglas-9002X-FX-FlexView-Auto-Darkening-Welding-Helmet-Hornell-Speedglass-/331302452129?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d232a3ba1)
Cheers, Murray
Jeez! That specimen is at least 4 years old! Its a superseded model in Australia at least.
I'd love to be able to sell something like that for $565 these days.
The newer flex view units have upgraded head harnesses which are very secure, adjustable in almost every orientation. Some are fitted with hard hats for site work also.
geodon
24th September 2014, 08:32 PM
TA I have a permanently dark helmet I got with my stick welder 30 yrs ago.
No, THEY don't wear out!
But it's too dark for my MIG. Are MIG flashes less intense & can I get a less intense one for that purpose??
Cheers
George
PS
The market seems awash with cheapies!
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1311.R4.TR11.TRC1.A0.H0.Xwe lding+helmet&_nkw=welding+helmet+auto+darkening&_sacat=0
Toxic_Avenger
24th September 2014, 08:42 PM
Mate, new fixed shade lenses for the standard flip up come in a range of shades, and you'd pick up two for less than the price of a schooner.
Shade 8-13 is common.
You can also get pimpin' gold plated ones for street cred while working the pipeline.
geodon
24th September 2014, 08:44 PM
Thanks for the link.
I'd forgotten about FleaBay
I found this
NEW Solar Auto Darkening Welding Helmet Lens Filter Shade 3 11 High Quality AU | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Solar-Auto-Darkening-Welding-Helmet-Lens-Filter-Shade-3-11-High-Quality-AU-/121334923856?pt=AU_Welding&hash=item1c40200250)
It will fit my older Xelux brand helmet
If it works, I'll buy a spare too. Judging by the 260 they've sold it's gotta be a goer!
Toxic_Avenger
24th September 2014, 09:34 PM
I found this
NEW Solar Auto Darkening Welding Helmet Lens Filter Shade 3 11 High Quality AU | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Solar-Auto-Darkening-Welding-Helmet-Lens-Filter-Shade-3-11-High-Quality-AU-/121334923856?pt=AU_Welding&hash=item1c40200250)
It will fit my older Xelux brand helmet
If it works, I'll buy a spare too. Judging by the 260 they've sold it's gotta be a goer!
That only has shade 10 (active) and a shade 3 idle. Might not be the best if you find that you may want to change the shade of the lens when you change the welding parameters.
Ideally look for something that can do shade variable shade between 8-13. Shade 5 is good if you do any oxy acetylene welding or plasma cutting.
incisor
25th September 2014, 09:20 AM
i use a cig proplus+
well worth the money in my books
adjustable everything and comfortable to boot!
cost me $250 bucks not long ago at my local welding supplies place
gone up to $270 now but still great value at that.
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