where to go for P38a spares

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Hi Everyone,
I am looking for the airbox lid and inlet tubing (including maf) off a 4.6 Thor engined P38.
Can anyone recommend a wreckers that might have one?

Thanks

Pedro

[Pete38]

I won't necessarily be able to help, but your location may help. Assuming it's not "next to didebub and just above Guiness"

[Scouse]

Triumph Rover Spares in Adelaide.


Matar Motors in Melbourne (eBay seller usually).


Shop around, prices for parts vary wildly & the professional businesses you'd expect to be exxy are sometimes the cheapest.

[benji]

I'd add amv and less richmond automotive too.

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[Pete38]

Land Vehicle Spares at Silverdale (South West Sydney). Mainly wrecking stuff aka Land Rover graveyard

[p38arover]

As Pedro is in Toowoomba, try AJG Spares in Esk, 80km away. AJG Spares | New and Used Car Parts for Jeep, Jaguar, Land Rover and Range Rover models (http://www.ajgspares.com/)

[DT-P38]

Buy a whole car and have (some) reasonable spares for life!

[Pedro_The_Swift]

While you're here Ron,,:angel:
when they installed your 4.6,,
did they change the inlet/Maf to the larger size??

[p38arover]

No need on mine, Pete. Mine was already a 4.6 - it was rebuilt and worked.

Are the parts you need different on a Thor 4.6 to a 4.0?

[Pedro_The_Swift]

apparently---
the 4.6 has a bigger diameter inlet tubing and maf.
I am yet to get my head around how the bigger/slower flow makes any difference, but the maf outputs values are different.

anyone?

[Scouse]

4.0 & 4.6 P38s with Thor have the same inlet manifold as the D2 (same part #).


4.0 & 4.6 P38s share the same inlet duct & air mass meter too.

[p38arover]

I was just trying to get MicroCat working so I could check.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

4.0 & 4.6 P38s with Thor have the same inlet manifold as the D2 (same part #).


4.0 & 4.6 P38s share the same inlet duct & air mass meter too.

Thanks Scott;),,
though its not the info I was given:confused:

while you're there Scott:angel:
P38 Thor ECU's?
will or wont work in a D2?

[Scouse]

Thanks Scott;),,
though its not the info I was given:confused:

while you're there Scott:angel:
P38 Thor ECU's?
will or wont work in a D2?I just looked up the parts catalogues for the details.


I really doubt the ECU would work. The P38 engine ECU communicates with the BECM for security reasons. The D2 doesn't have a BECM.
Saying that though, I have seen a GEMS engine ECU in a car without a BECM & Labtronx has a 'bypass' so the GEMS (not too sure about Thor) ECU can work in a car without a BECM.
Mobi-Lize (http://labtronxcomau.businesscatalyst.com/mobi-lize.htm)

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Did the D2's come out with the 4.6 as standard anywhere in the world?

[Scouse]

The parts listing I use shows a 4.6 crank in the D2 engine section:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=84608&d=1411799354
Sorry it's a bit on the small side.




And Wiki confirms it too for 03/04MY but doesn't say where. I assume the US would have it though.
Land Rover Discovery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_Discovery#Discovery_Series_II_.281998-2004.29)

[Scouse]

03/04 Discos on eBay USA are 4.6s.


Land Rover Discovery SE7 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Land-Rover-Discovery-SE7-2003-land-rover-discovery-se-7-/171469036069?forcerrptr=true&hash=item27ec59da25&item=171469036069&pt=US_Cars_Trucks)

Land Rover Discovery SE7 | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Land-Rover-Discovery-SE7-2004-and-rover-discovery-se-7-3-rw-seat-extra-clean-lqqk-/121434783250?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1c4613be12&item=121434783250&pt=US_Cars)

Land Rover Discovery SE Sport Utility 4 Door | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Land-Rover-Discovery-SE-Sport-Utility-4-Door-2003-land-rover-discovery-se-sport-utility-4-door-4-6-l-/221556245333?forcerrptr=true&hash=item3395c80355&item=221556245333&pt=US_Cars_Trucks)

[Pedro_The_Swift]

I'm betting a NA 4.6 ECU wont play well in an AU spec car

[benji]

Can you change the tune? NA would be high comp with o2 sensors.

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[TheTree]

Can you change the tune? NA would be high comp with o2 sensors.

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The nanocom docs state that the market is set in the factory and cannot be changed so it may get a little weird in an AU vehicle :angel:

In fact I wouldn't mind a 98 ECU in mine but I am very reluctant to fit anything but an AU one

Steve

[p38arover]

The nanocom docs state that the market is set in the factory and cannot be changed so it may get a little weird in an AU vehicle :angel:

Some market settings for the BECM can be done with Testbook. Scouse and I recently changed an import so that it no longer displayed messages in German.

I doubt engine management ECU settings can be changed. The bloke who does the Tornado chip does an Oz version. A friend bought one and had to do some to-ing and fro-ing to get it sorted.

My P38A has both a Haltech Interceptor and a Bruce Davis chip. I think Bruce changed the whole ECU because I had to get new Faultmate codes for the unit from BBS. Also, Faultmate says the ECU is for a 4.0 not a 4.6.

[TheTree]

Some market settings for the BECM can be done with Testbook. Scouse and I recently changed an import so that it no longer displayed messages in German.

I doubt engine management ECU settings can be changed. The bloke who does the Tornado chip does an Oz version. A friend bought one and had to do some to-ing and fro-ing to get it sorted.

My P38A has both a Haltech Interceptor and a Bruce Davis chip. I think Bruce changed the whole ECU because I had to get new Faultmate codes for the unit from BBS. Also, Faultmate says the ECU is for a 4.0 not a 4.6.

I have seen some odd settings as well, the nano docs state that it can do more than testbook, about the same as faultmate i guess

I have a tornado chip on my shopping list as well :)

Steve

[Scouse]

Also, Faultmate says the ECU is for a 4.0 not a 4.6.From what I can see in the parts listing, 4.0 & 4.6 ECUs have the same part number. The number varies for different markets so I think they might be 'told' which engine they're for when first fitted.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

From what I can see in the parts listing, 4.0 & 4.6 ECUs have the same part number. The number varies for different markets so I think they might be 'told' which engine they're for when first fitted.
and the same for replacement ones Scott?
so a nanocom or LR service department?
will they run at all before connecting to software?

[TheTree]

and the same for replacement ones Scott?
so a nanocom or LR service department?
will they run at all before connecting to software?

The nanocom docs seem to suggest that ity can change anything except the Market

The only thing I have written so far is the default throttle sensor voltage

Steve

[Scouse]

and the same for replacement ones Scott?
so a nanocom or LR service department?
will they run at all before connecting to software?Sorry, I don't have any experience with new ECUs.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

I bought a RR 4.6 Thor MAF, and of course it doesnt fit the 4L tubing:angel:
so I am getting a P38a inlet tubing up overnight from TRS.
The gentleman at TRS was very concerned about leaness.