Metal or Plastic fuel containers

[Tyrepower]

Whats your choice and why.

[Maggot4x4]

I voted plastic, with metal you can get rust and other crap in the fuel and not see it until it is going into your tank.

With plastic atleast you can see if it's been rubbing and replace the container.

Also the empty weight of plastic is far less so a lot eaiser to handle once used.

[incisor]

plastic

they dont rattle..

8O

[noddy]

Plastic. Yet to see one rust, lighter (when empty), quieter and I have not worn mine out yet.

[Defender200Tdi]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Plastic. Yet to see one rust, lighter (when empty), quieter and I have not worn mine out yet.[/b][/quote]



Wot he said !! :wink:



Paul style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[Bushie]

Metal,

Only because they were good quality rheem and free.


Bushie

[hiline]

metal coz i got them for free off here :wink: :wink:

[matbor]

Plastic, because my neighbour uses plastic ones daily (construction)and said the metal one's don't last....

matt.

[Redback]

Metal cause can't beat the price i got them for style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif $0.00

I would say the plastic ones would be better, lighter and don't rust, but hey for the price i paid, 8) i no complain.

Baz.

[VladTepes]

Originally posted by Maggot4x4
I voted plastic, with metal you can get rust and other crap in the fuel and not see it until it is going into your tank.

With plastic atleast you can see if it's been rubbing and replace the container.

Also the empty weight of plastic is far less so a lot eaiser to handle once used.

I agree with this guy.
(I even like Land Rovers :wink: style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif )

Seems to be a bit of consensus (yeah Ron I know thats probably spelled wrong ) as to the reasons why most prefer plastic.

[DaveS3]

Plastic. Hands Down.


They expand better, seal better and are lighter.

I have seen a plastic container fall of the back of a county at 70kmph! All it did was deform, no leakages etc.

Buy a Rheem Black Container, they are awesome!

Dave.

[Ace]

Plastic, for all the above reasons. Plastic cans also dont arc out with static electricity and cause explosions. However plastic can be dangerous aswell, poly ute liners are lethal when people fill cans inside the ute tray. Matt

[DEFENDERZOOK]

i was gonna say metal for strength. and less chance of it cracking, and you can boil water in it etc.


after reading all the reasoning on here i decided to go for plastic.
they appear to stronger than i thought.

stronger, lighter and cheaper
thats three good reasons.

[Ace]

I think lighter is the main one, especially when you are loading a few of them into the car for a long touring trip. The weight difference can make a lot of difference. Matt

[Tyrepower]

Originally posted by Ace
Plastic, for all the above reasons. Plastic cans also dont arc out with static electricity and cause explosions. However plastic can be dangerous aswell, poly ute liners are lethal when people fill cans inside the ute tray. Matt

They can still build up static, more than the steel. However because of the screw lid rather than the pop top, less of a problem with a fuel air explosion. Have seen it happen with a metal can on a hot day. A carpenter opened his can to fill a generator. Under pressure the fuel sprayed as a fine mist ignited via the hot motor on the gen set. The explosion was huge, with him in the middle. Only part not burned was his feet because of his boots. "Lucky" for him (if you could say that) he held his breath, no burns to the lungs or swelling of the throat. He survived but took him a couple of years to be happy about living.

[Bushie]

Originally posted by Ace
I think lighter is the main one, especially when you are loading a few of them into the car for a long touring trip. The weight difference can make a lot of difference. Matt

I wouldn't think weight would be all that relevant, the weight of the container is fairly minor compared with the weight of fuel.

By the way a 20litre container should only be filled to about 18 litres to avoid the problems indicated above.


Bushie

[Ace]

Originally posted by Tyrepower+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tyrepower)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Ace
Plastic, for all the above reasons. Plastic cans also dont arc out with static electricity and cause explosions. However plastic can be dangerous aswell, poly ute liners are lethal when people fill cans inside the ute tray. Matt

They can still build up static, more than the steel. However because of the screw lid rather than the pop top, less of a problem with a fuel air explosion. Have seen it happen with a metal can on a hot day. A carpenter opened his can to fill a generator. Under pressure the fuel sprayed as a fine mist ignited via the hot motor on the gen set. The explosion was huge, with him in the middle. Only part not burned was his feet because of his boots. "Lucky" for him (if you could say that) he held his breath, no burns to the lungs or swelling of the throat. He survived but took him a couple of years to be happy about living.[/b][/quote]

Speaking of explosions. It has been proven that women are more likely than men to cause an explosion at a service station as women regularily re-enter the car during the fill process. This creates static electricity, when the reach for the nozzle the static discharges to the car and ignites the petrol vapour. Ka Boom. Matt

[incisor]

god bless them diesels!

[DEFENDERZOOK]

has anyone heard the correct prcedures for refuelling?

you are supposed to earth yourself on the vehicle before you touch the bowser......then you are supposed to be earthing yourself away from the fuel filler all through the process.....(ie one hand on the roofline of the vehicle and the other holding the nozle)

everyone has seen this procedure and everyone follows this practice during refuelling. you never see anyone pumping fuel while on the phone!!

[Bushie]

Originally posted by Ace


Speaking of explosions. It has been proven that women are more likely than men to cause an explosion at a service station as women regularily re-enter the car during the fill process. This creates static electricity, when the reach for the nozzle the static discharges to the car and ignites the petrol vapour. Ka Boom. Matt

I have a video of exactly that somewhere at work, taken from a servo security camera in Canada (IIRC)

Bushie

[Ace]

Originally posted by Bushie+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bushie)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Ace


Speaking of explosions. It has been proven that women are more likely than men to cause an explosion at a service station as women regularily re-enter the car during the fill process. This creates static electricity, when the reach for the nozzle the static discharges to the car and ignites the petrol vapour. Ka Boom. Matt

I have a video of exactly that somewhere at work, taken from a servo security camera in Canada (IIRC)

Bushie[/b][/quote]

They showed a couple on Mythbusters, the show on Discovery Channel. They were actually testing the myth that mobile phones actually cause the explosions. Consider the myth busted, its absolute rubbish, they made an air tight container and pumped an air fuel mixture in (in varying concentrations) and then rang a mobile phone inside the chamber, NOTHING. They then tried it with the static idea. Bingo- explosions galore. Matt

[DEFENDERZOOK]

a ringing phone doesnt ignite fuel.... its the signal it puts out can charge up your hair or clothing....increasing the static charge in the body to a level high enough to arc at the first chance available.


i have seen cigarettes thrown into a tub of petrol and just extinguish....
but i would go and try to prove it. i think the temperature plays a big part.
the hotter it is the more fuel vapour. the ciggarette incident was on a cold day and the guy thought it was a drum of water.

[Ace]

Originally posted by DEFENDERZOOK
a ringing phone doesnt ignite fuel.... its the signal it puts out can charge up your hair or clothing....increasing the static charge in the body to a level high enough to arc at the first chance available.


i have seen cigarettes thrown into a tub of petrol and just extinguish....
but i would go and try to prove it. i think the temperature plays a big part.
the hotter it is the more fuel vapour. the ciggarette incident was on a cold day and the guy thought it was a drum of water.

You should really flick a lit ciggie anywhere. Matt

[DEFENDERZOOK]

hey....another non smoker.....?

[Ace]

Originally posted by DEFENDERZOOK
hey....another non smoker.....?

You bet, the most disgusting habbit on earth. They should be banned everywhere. Matt

[DEFENDERZOOK]

heres another way of looking at it : 100 km per packet



for every packet the wife smokes i could clock up another hundred kms!! :idea:

[Ace]

Originally posted by DEFENDERZOOK
heres another way of looking at it : 100 km per packet



for every packet the wife smokes i could clock up another hundred kms!! :idea:

I try and convince the kids i teach at school why they shouldnt smoke. I gave up on the health risks, they dont care. But when you tell them some people could make the repayments on a new car each year with the amount of money they spend on smokes. That opens their eyes, but then they point out they dont pay for them. They will have to one day.

Stacey smoked when we first got togther. When she moved in she had 4 left. They were the last 4 ciggies she ever smoked. Matt

[DEFENDERZOOK]

you got room there for my wife?

[Ace]

Originally posted by DEFENDERZOOK
you got room there for my wife?

Not if she smokes. I detest the habit. I told stacey that if we were going to be together i only had one condition. She quit smoking. For one I dont like kissing ash trays, after smoking her breath made me ill. Two, i dont want my house and car stinking of smoke, and three we have better things to spend our money on.

You could get your wife to quit DZ. Tell her that she is to quit, then every time she wants a pack of smokes put the money in a money tin. Then at the end of the year go on holiday with the money, she will see quickly how much she has been wasting. Matt

[DEFENDERZOOK]

she knows
i tried
it doesnt work
she doesnt want to quit
i dont kiss her
she knows why


and she is jealous of lurch!!

[Moses]

Well I´m not going to follow the side track but drive right through the bog hole....


Plastic.


Ummmm, that´s the fuel container thing.... 8O

[Ace]

Originally posted by Moses
Well I´m not going to follow the side track but drive right through the bog hole....


Plastic.


Ummmm, that´s the fuel container thing.... 8O

Its good to see some one still has the will power to soldier on. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif Matt

[Yabbie]

Plastic !!!

It makes a jewish stocktake that much easier style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Originally posted by DaveS3
Plastic. Hands Down.


They expand better, seal better and are lighter.

I have seen a plastic container fall of the back of a county at 70kmph! All it did was deform, no leakages etc.

Buy a Rheem Black Container, they are awesome!

Dave.

had 4 accross the back "seat" through the desert,,,
about the only thing that plastic does wrong is expand,,
and contract,,
and expand,,

8O

[Ace]

Originally posted by jason
Plastic !!!

It makes a jewish stocktake that much easier style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif :roll: :roll: :roll:

I didnt know you were Jewish. Matt

[Pedro_The_Swift]

need to stocktake all your double posts Ace style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

[incisor]

yes, it seem young matt has been reading ferno's book on star envy style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif

[Pedro_The_Swift]

hmmm,
speaking of "The man of a thousand voices"

Has Ferno done a BB on us???

[incisor]

i had the same penny drop here, must be the weather..

have to send out a search party...

[Ace]

Originally posted by Pedro_The_Swift
need to stocktake all your double posts Ace style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

I dont have that kind of time. style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif

A serious question for Inc though. Why is it that sometimes when it says 'you can post so soon etc etc" it posts anyway and sometimes it doesnt. Sometimes it posts twice even when i submit once. Why is that? Matt

[hiline]

every time its happened to me , it never replies twice 8O 8O

[NOZ]

Plastic for me style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif

[tdi130dualcab]

Have and use both, preference is for plastic......(but the one permanently mounted in my tray is steel)

[VladTepes]

Originally posted by Ace
They showed a couple on Mythbusters, the show on Discovery Channel. They were actually testing the myth that mobile phones actually cause the explosions. Consider the myth busted, its absolute rubbish, they made an air tight container and pumped an air fuel mixture in (in varying concentrations) and then rang a mobile phone inside the chamber, NOTHING. They then tried it with the static idea. Bingo- explosions galore. Matt

There's an episode of MYTHBUSTERS titled "Cell phone destruction" - probably the one you speak about - on SBS-TV at 7.30pm (Qld time) TONIGHT.

Great series, by the way.

[Bushie]

Originally posted by Bushie+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bushie)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Ace


Speaking of explosions. It has been proven that women are more likely than men to cause an explosion at a service station as women regularily re-enter the car during the fill process. This creates static electricity, when the reach for the nozzle the static discharges to the car and ignites the petrol vapour. Ka Boom. Matt

I have a video of exactly that somewhere at work, taken from a servo security camera in Canada (IIRC)

Bushie[/b][/quote]

Well I tried to upload the video but got the impression it didn't work then I found it (or one some-one else has uploaded) amongst the albums.

http://www.aulro.com/albums/TeamSlowRacing...s_fire_clip.avi (http://www.aulro.com/albums/TeamSlowRacing-com/Gas_fire_clip.avi)

Luckily she shuts the nozzle off before pulling it out.


Bushie

[KEV0044]

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[Ace]

I have had a bit to do with the RFS on and off during uni, they used metal containers, heat didnt bother them as much. Are all brigades the same. Matt

[Bushie]

Originally posted by KEV0044
G'day Bushie !!
What do the 'Bushfire - Fire Fighters' carry on the 'Fire Trucks' for extra fuel ?
Do they use metal or plastc containers - or none of the above ??
Kev .

A mixture - depending on application, general fuels deisel, unleaded etc are usually in metal "rheem" type containers whilst smaller containers could be plastic ie combined fuel/baroil for chainsaws.

They are all stored (or should be) in vented metal lockers.


Bushie