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olbod
3rd October 2014, 10:56 AM
Has anyone used one of these ?
Are they okay ?
Nanacom has started to list compressor faulty advice.
I clear the fault ( ? ).
Compressor is probably the original so maybe time to replace with a new one
and recondition the original as a spare or perhaps run both of them in parralel.

What say ?

PS: just a thought perhaps someone has a second hand one for sale that could be rebuilt ?

Pete38
3rd October 2014, 11:30 AM
Could the fault just be because its taking too long to pump the tank up though? I'd be inclined to service the compressor. Not overly expensive or difficult to do.

olbod
3rd October 2014, 11:56 AM
Could the fault just be because its taking too long to pump the tank up though? I'd be inclined to service the compressor. Not overly expensive or difficult to do.

G'day.
It doesn't take long for the pressure to build and in fact it maintains the pressure very well when parked.
I dont know what is happening yet re: the fault code as I only had it for the first yesterday.
I cleared the faults with the nanacom and all good.
With regard to the compressor I am just thinking ahead.
I would get a new or second hand unit the same as with the valve block that I bought from the USA and rebuilt. I now have a spare.
I could rebuild the compressor in the thingy but that would mean taking The Bitch of the road which I am loathe to do.
With this sort of fickle equiptment I like the idea of having changeover spares.
Bit like having a spare wheel to thro on, minimal delay.

wayneg
3rd October 2014, 12:58 PM
Changing the seal and new piston is a relatively easy job. Should take no more than an hour 1/2. Hardest part is often the allen key bolt to release the con rod, the rest is straight forward.
Dunlop make the system so a Genuine Dunlop pump should be A1. The pumps are made by Thomas.
I would never renew with a std compressor again with standard, I would go with one of the bigger Viair or similar. Just the issue of location.

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Pete38
3rd October 2014, 01:25 PM
I haven't bothered about anything spare for the EAS, other than I carry spare bags for front and rear, the emergency manual air valves, and the switch to turn the EAS off if need be. Figured that I can remove everything else and still drive the car as long as I can pump the bags up manually. And I always carry a fairly decent tyre pump for pumping tyres up so thats my backup system.

But I hear you. In my case if the pump failed I can still drive but lose some of the benefits of the EAS until I get round to fixing the pump.

PeterAllen
3rd October 2014, 02:07 PM
You could always just pull the relay from under the passenger seat and that would stop the EAS from doing anything. Have it at standard height and you wouldn't need the compressor for weeks unless you have a leak somewhere. It will throw up a fault on the dash but thats easily cleared with the Wilson software when you want it back up and running as normal.

olbod
3rd October 2014, 02:07 PM
I haven't bothered about anything spare for the EAS, other than I carry spare bags for front and rear, the emergency manual air valves, and the switch to turn the EAS off if need be. Figured that I can remove everything else and still drive the car as long as I can pump the bags up manually. And I always carry a fairly decent tyre pump for pumping tyres up so thats my backup system.

But I hear you. In my case if the pump failed I can still drive but lose some of the benefits of the EAS until I get round to fixing the pump.

G'day.
I also have the bypass kit and the eas switch which has been a god.send.
And of course I have the nanacom, without which this Bitch would have been parked up the back paddock longago.
I also carry a 12v air compressor but I have not needed to use it yet on the eas.
i havent been far enough in it yet to warrant carrying spare bags but I want to renew all four later.

olbod
3rd October 2014, 02:14 PM
You could always just pull the relay from under the passenger seat and that would stop the EAS from doing anything. Have it at standard height and you wouldn't need the compressor for weeks unless you have a leak somewhere. It will throw up a fault on the dash but thats easily cleared with the Wilson software when you want it back up and running as normal.

Peter thats what I used to do at first untill I started to get into it to fix and modify.
Takes time to be certain of which way to go for the long term and of course it all costs.
While it no longer lets me down or stranded I am in no mad rush.
I am also modifying Me Disco at the same time.
Rather enjoying it all tho I must say.

olbod
3rd October 2014, 02:23 PM
Changing the seal and new piston is a relatively easy job. Should take no more than an hour 1/2. Hardest part is often the allen key bolt to release the con rod, the rest is straight forward.
Dunlop make the system so a Genuine Dunlop pump should be A1. The pumps are made by Thomas.
I would never renew with a std compressor again with standard, I would go with one of the bigger Viair or similar. Just the issue of location.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/10/1435.jpg

$30 off per $300 order Free shipping! DC12V Mini air compressor, Suspension air compressor! New design-in Inflatable Pump from Automobiles & Motorcycles on Aliexpress.com | Alibaba Group (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-DC12V-Mini-air-compressor-Suspension-air-compressor-New-design/567505827.html)

Wayne having hard parts or delays is the reason that I like having spares that can be rebuilt at leisure and carefully, even going off for outside assistance rather than trying to bludgeon it into shape.

That Mini air thingy looks interesting, I wonder how reliable they would be in the long term. After all they might not need to work hard all the time but often and handle continous high pressure.
I will check it out.
Do you have one installed and provide a pic ?

Pete38
3rd October 2014, 02:34 PM
You could always just pull the relay from under the passenger seat and that would stop the EAS from doing anything. Have it at standard height and you wouldn't need the compressor for weeks unless you have a leak somewhere. It will throw up a fault on the dash but thats easily cleared with the Wilson software when you want it back up and running as normal.

Slightly branching off so will keep it brief. But I installed the switch because I can turn it off on the move, and it not get to the bump stops before I disconnect the relay. I was really worried to have something go wrong in a water crossing (sensor errors maybe) and drown the car because it hard faults and ends up on the bump stops.

Hoges
3rd October 2014, 03:29 PM
The price quoted is about 50% of the going rate for the exact same part locally excluding postage.
If you can get it delivered for say $50, then it's a damned good price.
The pump doesn't work a lot IF you have been scrupulous in attending to minor leaks in the system ...
my first one lasted 13 yrs / 145,000 km (I had only just replaced the Teflon piston ring) then it spat the dummy electrically ...including smoke effects. I have had neither time nor inclination to fix it...
I replaced it with a Dunlop ...took less than 30 mins.
I did consider an upgraded Thomas one but this was "easier" and kept the vehicle as close to std spec ...

olbod
4th October 2014, 09:15 AM
The price quoted is about 50% of the going rate for the exact same part locally excluding postage.
If you can get it delivered for say $50, then it's a damned good price.
The pump doesn't work a lot IF you have been scrupulous in attending to minor leaks in the system ...
my first one lasted 13 yrs / 145,000 km (I had only just replaced the Teflon piston ring) then it spat the dummy electrically ...including smoke effects. I have had neither time nor inclination to fix it...
I replaced it with a Dunlop ...took less than 30 mins.
I did consider an upgraded Thomas one but this was "easier" and kept the vehicle as close to std spec ...

Yes, I reckon the Dunlop is the way I will go.

wayneg
4th October 2014, 07:06 PM
olbod, I have not purchased or fitted one of the pumps as in my link so cant comment on fitment or quality yet.
The reason I will go that route in future is price and performance. If you can get a pump for 150 pounds plus 50 shipping if you are lucky thats A$400 every day. I have repaired seals and pistons on untold Thomas / Dunlop / genuine Pumps and although easy enough the end result is still an old pump. At the moment I have 3 spares and they range from useless to just acceptable in the output of air. They all have new seals, the armature bearings and brushes are well worn. For around A$160 landed I can get a new pump with supposedly much better performance. For a few $$ more a much bigger and better effort. I will take a punt on one if the need arises and the pump now on my car starts plying up.
Lets not kid ourselves where the Genuine Thomas pumps come from..........
Air Suspension Pump - Buy Air Pump,Air Compressor,Auto Air Pump Product on Alibaba.com (http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Air-suspension-pump_225665482.html)
OR....
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Air-suspension-pump-1995-2002-Land_51743854.html

If these links dont work go to alibba.com and search for Thomas suspension pump

Here is a std pump for even less, not sure about shipping cost.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RANGE-ROVER-AIR-COMPRESSOR-PUMP-ANR3731-FOR-RANGE-ROVER-EAS-AIR-SUSPENSION/281410739721?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555012%26algo%3DPW.MBE%26ao%3D1%26 asc%3D20140221143405%26meid%3Ddc6a14afc41c44298985 ed8641ca9719%26pid%3D100010%26prg%3D20140221143405 %26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D24%26sd%3D251652573737