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weeds
6th October 2014, 12:26 PM
I read the thread in the good oil but nobody has listed the part number

Trying to fix a fuel problem and figured I might grab a facet fuel pump

Anybody fitted one recently??

Chasing the part number, flow rate, pressure etc

Dopey
6th October 2014, 12:42 PM
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/technical-chatter/158780-replacing-300tdi-lift-pump-facet-posi-flo-electrical-pump.html

Hope this helps.

Mike.

weeds
6th October 2014, 12:57 PM
Thanks mike but the link in the thread is no longer good

Will PM Arron to see what he fitted

Dopey
6th October 2014, 01:15 PM
The PDF show the two models that he referenced.
The only difference in the models shown in the PDF is the fuel line fittings, so depending on which fuel line fitting you require, maybe search for that Model number?

I'm just about to install a Delphi pump in one of my 300Tdi 90's, but have been reading about some quality issues with them lately, if it plays up, I will probably take the electrical pump road.
Please keep us updated on how you go as I'm interested in it.
Thanks,
Mike.

Also....

http://www.facet-purolator.com/cat_part_finder.php

PAT303
6th October 2014, 05:37 PM
There's nothing wrong with the pumps,just fit two gaskets when installing,that's the fix. Pat

Dopey
6th October 2014, 05:56 PM
There's nothing wrong with the pumps,just fit two gaskets when installing,that's the fix. Pat

I've read about that problem and the two gasket fix on Aulro a while ago....
It was something that I asked Karcraft about when purchasing the pump and other stuff, Karcraft told me that the production issues with the pumps had been remedied and that no longer were two gaskets required for spacing the pump out from the block.

My original fuel pump has lasted twenty years.

Reading a few other L/R forums there are some issues with the new Delphi fuel pumps....

Anyways, I'll keep my original as a spare.

Blknight.aus
6th October 2014, 06:39 PM
almost any facet pump will do the job I have had an occasional issue with high idles with the 14psi model, so I use the 7spi one.

they make a diesel specific one the key difference being it doesnt have the internal mesh.

weeds
6th October 2014, 08:22 PM
I fitted the lift pump I had.........the old one didn't have much resistance on the diaphragm. Zero wear on the lever.......

Now in my rush I forgot to remove the old gasket and didn't know about the two gasket fix.....mine now has two gaskets (it came with two, a thin and a thick, I just fitted the thick, I have no idea what was stuck on the block)

See my reply below.........it's from my power steering thread. Apparently you need diesel in the tank for an engine to run

Well what a marathon this arvo along with a comedy of errors.

I'm up and running.........so that good

Ok.....would you believe I have never had the sediment bowl off the car as I do the servicing I can vouch for it. Eight or nine years of ownership and 200 000km I would have been lucky to fill cap of a coke bottle with what was in the bottom of the bowl......I was expecting the worse but was please toy surprised. It's had heaps of diesel from steel jerry cans poured in as well.

So sediment bowl back on.

New fuel filter fitted, I have after market one fitted where it has a cartridge filter with big glass bowl and than a metal bottom. The new cartridge is one o-ring short.

I get excited and crank the car, it self bleeds pretty quick and idles......but than starts coughing til it finally stalls. I than realise I didn't drain the fuel tank and put 20L fresh diesel in...am now kicking myself as I just fitted a new filter.

So I than drain and discard 20-30L diesel.

I than focus on change the lift pump, had a new one laying around. Pretty straight forward. Although I dropped one of the olives on the grass, you think I could find it...........nope. So off to super cheap only to find they do not do olives. I ring a guy from work and he has a champion kit of olives....1/2 drive I grab the kit......only to realise when I get back that's it's imperial......you guess it I need metric. The guy from work actually dropped me back (long story) so he helps me look for the olive, we gave hope until he picks the olive up which was a good 2m from the drop zone on concrete. Happy hap joy joy. He heads off and I finish the lift pump..........all excited I start the car again and it idles perfect, after awhile I start texting the world. Just after I hit send cough cough and a fine stalls again.

I think at the stage I'm ready to set fire to it.

Than I see I slight drip from a fuel line....well buffer me it's rubbed a hole in itself. So I manage to shorten it, stupid rock hard plastic fuel hose. Get excited and start her up again...cough cough runs a bit than coughs

After a bit of fiddling I get it running with a bit of a miss....decide to drive around a corner to a other land rover nutter but if cough and splutters all the way. We spent 1/2hr bleeding and checking things and come to the conclusion it might the the injector pump.

We had it idling ok ish so a used low range as anytime I touch the pedal it would die. 1/2 late to travel 400m I thought I had killed the engine.

As I limp into the driveway I see the jerry can of diesel that I purchased 3hr earlier.........would you believe I didn't replace the fuel I drain from the fuel tank.

20L in and the defender purrs........into life. Un ****ing believable, I cannot believe I drove 800m without fuel.

So a small pin hole in a fuel line was the cause.......

would you also believe that's it's had to wind over longer than normal before it starts (on and off) for the last eighteen months.......me thinks this has been the problem all along. Strangest thing is it's never left diesel on the driveway.

Em very happy my fuel system was nice and clean.

Why would it do 100km/hr but not idle??

weeds
6th October 2014, 08:22 PM
Oh.....good chance my lift pump is 390 000km old

MacFamily
6th October 2014, 09:16 PM
If you decide to fit a facet let me know I will have a look for the part number. I got rid of the old lift pump and blanked it off.

Blknight.aus
7th October 2014, 10:30 PM
The reason it would run fast and not slow is beacue the fuel pump was lifting more fuel to the injector pump the. it could use so air was being flowed back to the tank.

The reason it didn't leak from the small hole was because the line was almost always under a slight low pressure air would go in fuel wouldn't come out.

Had you done a line blow back like I suggested in you would have found it by way of either the diesel.coming out or the fuel line splitting apart.