2 Spare wheels under 130 crew cab tray

[Beery]

Hi Everyone,

With the impending arrival of my new 130 crew cab some time in the next few weeks, its time to start finalising some ideas for the tray that will be built for it.
The first bit. Has anyone had success with building a tray that can accomodate 2 spare wheels straight up the guts between the chassis and the bottom of the tray??

After delivery, I'll be removing the supplied Goodyear MTR's and fitting XZL 7.50's. My hope is that with 7.50 tyres, the tray wont need to be lifted much to make room.

I haven't approached the tray builders yet to discuss it, but ive attached a photo of a 130 tray they've done. Looks like been lifted to me. Possibly to fit spare tyres under it..

Also, I'm not going any longer than 2 metres overall length.

[MLD]

there is a 35" tyre hiding behind the door. I can fit 2 x 35" under the deck. The deck sits 4' off the ground so it's very high and can be a PITA. The tray isn't an off the shelf item. With the 235/85 sized rubber you will reclaim 90 to 100mm of deck height. I have about 25mm clearance above the tyre.

Another factor to consider is the diameter of the tyre and how that affects the support beams that typically run over the chassis rail. Mine are set outside the chassis rail to accommodate the tyre size.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/10/1246.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/10/1247.jpg

MLD

[Beery]

Thats great. Thanks MLD!

Im actually removing the 235/85's and fitting 7.50 XZL's which works out to about 190mm wide and from what I understand, they're about 31 inches diameter.
So going on your setup, I should be able to manage a tray pretty close to standard height.
Also, it wont be enclosed like your compartment, It'll just be an open carrier purely for spare wheels most likely out of flat bar and RHS

Thanks again
Tom

[The ho har's]

Yes we have 2 plus other garb under the tray, Tent poles, shovel, legs for the camper Etc. Our tray was bought from East Coast Commercial Qld, that deal in off road vehicles as well. Ah we were down your way last week with the camper on board;)

Will find a pic for you.

Mrs hh:angel:

[Ranga]

Mr Ho Har helped me (or I watched him?!) mount my Toyota tray on 2 custom longitudinal girders. This allows me to fit 2 x 255/85R16s under the tray. Out of sight, low centre of gravity, and doesn't take up space on the tray or roof rack.

I wouldn't have it any other way now.

[Beery]

I think Ive come across photos of your setup when searching the forum for ideas before Ranga. From memory it looked like you have a long drawer under your tray?

I wonder if anyone out there has done a tray specifically to suit 7.50 tyres. Itd be interesting to see how low they can mount it...

Sent from my HTC_PN071 using AULRO mobile app

[deesse]

Yea, I've just raised my tray 110mm so can now get a pair of 265's under there & outa the way. had to fit a couple of rails to support the front tyre.

[alan48]

Hi,
the photo of the Dubbo 130 is my car and it has just completed a Kimberley trip with 235/85/16 BFG M2 tyre underneath and worked great with tyre just sitting neatly on top of support rails either side and just above the fuel tank. It would have been possible to slide further forward (but extend/add support rails to carry a second tyre. Dubbo City Welding does a few raised trays for the local LR dealer--very nice work indeed. We wanted it raised so room to carry spares as we have a Beyond slide-on camper on the tray. Despite no issues on the Kimberly and centre trip we have since lowered the tray again as camper was a little high--meaning we now have ot carry spares in place of the back seats--no option but we use the car like an extra cab more than a 5 seater. So--if you don't need to worry about the tray height go for it--tray was 100mm above normal I think.

[Beery]

Hi Alan,
Thats great, i was hoping the owner of that 130 would show up on here!
That tray of yours looks pretty much exactly as i want mine. Im hoping with my tyres, i can get it a fraction lower than yours in that photo.

Can i ask, whats the length of that tray?

Cheers
Tom

Sent from my HTC_PN071 using AULRO mobile app

[alan48]

Hi Berry,
tray is 2010mm long--they said longest legal length--and everyone who has seen the tray comments on how good it looks and Dubbo City Welding a very fair price when I compared--were recommended/ordered by Antony Amers of Dubbo LR or Clancy Motors, ex UK MOD fellow who knows his LR's. I could easily fit 235's underneath on 130 steels or Performance ST1 alloys but not wider tyres on 7inch alloys which I also tried.

[Beery]

What are your thoughts on the length? Could I trouble you for a side on photo that shows how long the tray is?

Yeah DCW seem to make good trays, all our work utes have them and I cant fault them.

Cheers
Tom




Sent from my HTC_PN071 using AULRO mobile app

[MLD]

Do a search on 130 trays on the forum. There was a long discussion about tray lengths and the various opinions from experience. Cracking of the forward mounts was a complaint.

My tray is 1800mm x 1800mm and it's a good size without too much overhang. The cap to the filler spout is the location of the cross member.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/06/212.jpg

I've seen a 2100 tray and it looks, to me, like it's too long. The 2100mm tray owner has to be careful when towing because of fouling and convenience of access to the tow hitch (Paul, you want to chime in). An 1800 wide tray is a good practical width and it sits outside the door panels by about 35mm (1700 mm wide would look better and keeping in the lines of the panels). An 1800 wide with the standard offset rims and your 16 x 7.5 the wheels may look like they are lost under the tray. Not dreadfully so, but enough that may trouble you. I raise the width in case you have any desire to put an Alu canopy on it and most are built to an 1800 wide or near about dimension.

The dual cab consumes a lot of space so the axle sits forward compared to a single cab. If you plan to carry weight having the weight over the axle is important. A longer tray tempts you to use the space behind the axle, which (depending on the weight distribution) may stress the forward tray mounts and upset the weight distribution of the truck (could get interesting on a high speed dirt road and induce steering vagueness and adversely affect front braking).

Google the tray discussion, it's a worthwhile read.

MLD

[Ranga]

I agree with MLD - a 2100 tray is too long for my liking.

FWIW, my tray is an 1800 x 1800 "Genuine Toyota" job. I think this is a perfect size.

[Beery]

Thanks guys
I definately wont be going to 2.1m. Ive narrowed it down to 1.8, 1.9 or 2.0 metres. I wouldn't mind being able sleep in my swag in it so probably going to have to be 2.0m.

MLD I take your point about the width and how 1.8 wide might look with 7.50 tyres, I'll have to look into that. Though Im not as worried about width, in terms of looks, as much as length. I want the length to look right for the vehicle and fit with its proportions...from what I've seen and in my opinion, 1.9m seems to be the sweet spot for a 130 crew cab.

Also, towbar use has to be considered but Im thinking with the tray raised a bit for the spares underneath, access shouldn't be a problem. I'll only likely be towing on the odd occaision.

Re: loading and driving a loaded vehicle. Put it this way. There are some people who should and some people who definately shouldn't. ;)

Cheers
Tom

[strangy]

I wouldn't go less than 1800 wide. This being a general standard width, you will find a whole range of little annoyances from tool boxes, camp bodies, and most accessories, bits and bobs seem to cater for that width.
Mine is 1800x1800 and is an ex Hilux"minecorp" tray modded to fit my spare underneath. I can fit a 255/85. Fitting a second under there required a mounting setup that I didn't think would be suitable for heavy loads and off road.
My experience repairing my mounts and others on here suggest that many trays are poorly mounted.
I'm not a fan of longer than 1800 tray on the DC.

Just my 2 cents.

[Handy Harry]

Hi Everyone,

With the impending arrival of my new 130 crew cab some time in the next few weeks, its time to start finalising some ideas for the tray that will be built for it.
The first bit. Has anyone had success with building a tray that can accomodate 2 spare wheels straight up the guts between the chassis and the bottom of the tray??

After delivery, I'll be removing the supplied Goodyear MTR's and fitting XZL 7.50's. My hope is that with 7.50 tyres, the tray wont need to be lifted much to make room.

I haven't approached the tray builders yet to discuss it, but ive attached a photo of a 130 tray they've done. Looks like been lifted to me. Possibly to fit spare tyres under it..

Also, I'm not going any longer than 2 metres overall length.
I have a 2011 130 dual cab that carried my Travelander camper when I go bush. I had the tray lifted 75mm to allow the installation of a spare wheel carrier underneath. It is 1,025mm from the ground to the top flor of the tray. I have standard 235/85R16C Continental AT tyres on steel rims. I had the job done by a mob in Rockhampton. That was a horrible experience. They wouldn't part with the vehicle until I had paid $400 above the quoted price and then when I got it home I found it was impossible to remove the wheel from the carrier. They had obviously installed the wheel and then bolted the tray down on top. I had to fix it up myself as there was no way I would go back there unless I had a solicitor prepare a water tight contract. In fact after that experience I will never set foot in another of their stores. There is room to fit another wheel in front of the one I have installed if wanted.

[Beery]

I have a 2011 130 dual cab that carried my Travelander camper when I go bush. I had the tray lifted 75mm to allow the installation of a spare wheel carrier underneath. It is 1,025mm from the ground to the top flor of the tray. I have standard 235/85R16C Continental AT tyres on steel rims. I had the job done by a mob in Rockhampton. That was a horrible experience. They wouldn't part with the vehicle until I had paid $400 above the quoted price and then when I got it home I found it was impossible to remove the wheel from the carrier. They had obviously installed the wheel and then bolted the tray down on top. I had to fix it up myself as there was no way I would go back there unless I had a solicitor prepare a water tight contract. In fact after that experience I will never set foot in another of their stores. There is room to fit another wheel in front of the one I have installed if wanted.

Hi Harry
Thanks for the info. How do you find the height of the tray? 1025mm sounds alright to me. Do you have any side on photos handy??

Sorry to hear about your experience getting it modified. $400 above quote would be a rude shock, especially if they didnt notify you about it before going ahead with the work!

Cheers
Tom