2014 Bathurst chat

[LandyAndy]

A thread for this years race!!!.
Sad to see the class clown crash his Bottlo falcon,Whincup also had a bad day!!!
For those who were working today and missed todays coverage check Scotty out in a moment of testing the Volvos "O WOW" factor!!!! I wonder if he enjoyed the view featured in the slow mo section as much as I did;);););)
2014 Bathurst 1000 - Scott McLaughlin Big Off - YouTube

Andrew

[Yorkie]

Hope the get the bottleo back together, sure they will. Jamie from the back will be interesting, and Lowndes only just making top 10 unusual too.

[scarry]

Gonna be a fantastic race,few young guns in their first shootout and a few that you would presume would be there but aren't.

Some of the younger inexperienced guys have got the hang of the new surface,where some of the experienced guys,and big money teams, don't seem to have.

Dane thinks Whincup can still win,definitely a very long shot,even though it is a long race.I bet they pull him in before the normal schedule stop to get out of the traffic

Sure Perkins did it after an altercation with a young Loundes many years ago,but in those days times between the cars were no where near as close as what they are today.

Loundes will be happy he won't have to double stack......

Can't wait for the green light:D

Oh,and the shootout this arvo:)

[disco man]

As it does every year the Mountain is bruising egos and cars,watching the footage yesterday was awesome,and i think it proves that politics aside, the V8 racing is still bloody good.

[Yorkie]

Big damage to no.2 hurt along with lowndes 888, redbull should have it fixed, not sure about hrt!.

[disco man]

Big damage to no.2 hurt along with lowndes 888, redbull should have it fixed, not sure about hrt!.

Garth Tander will not be in the race,also the protest about car #22 has gone through so no top ten shootout for Courtney. What Roland was saying is spot on car #22 should never have been elevated into the top ten in the first place. What an effort by BJR all their cars in the top ten. And a special mention of Craig Lowndes gesture of help in getting Luff out of his car,what a gentlemen he is.He is a fan favourite for many reasons and those sort of things is one of them.

[scarry]

Looking at the vid that Lowndes car also took a massive hit.

Not good before a long race.:(

[Homestar]

Well, as someone who has spent a few years on the sidelines of V8 racing, this is the first time I've sat down to watch for a loooong time. Must say, I'm really pleased I did. Been a great day of racing in all forms.

Good to see a Volvo and Nissan in the shoot out - one of the reasons I started to tune out was the same old, same old of the Holdens and Fords. I don't know a lot of the new drivers, but there seems to be some good ones that aren't too up themselves (yet).

Roll on tomorrow. Looking forward to a great race. I have no real idea of who I actually want to win. Maybe the Volvo..?:angel: Does that make me a traitor?:D

[Mick_Marsh]

I have no real idea of who I actually want to win. Maybe the Volvo..?:angel: Does that make me a traitor?:D
No. It means you need to buy a hat.

[robbotd5]

No. It means you need to buy a hat.

You need to get with the times Mick:):D;) Go the Volvo!!!
Regards
Robbo

[Pickles2]

I just want a good race.
It will be interesting to see what Jamie can do from the back of the grid?
Pickles.

[disco man]

What a awesome day,Then the shootout tops it off nicely. Well done to the Gis,very good lap. I also think Wood,Perkins,Moffat should all be very proud of themselves. Three Kiwi's in the top ten is a good result from a personal point of view. Like a lot of people I am absolutely amazed at the results of GRM,Volvo,and Scott McLaughlin. What they have done this season with the Volvo in its first year is incredible. I am really looking forward to the race and i hope Scotty can get the win:D

[Mick_Marsh]

You need to get with the times Mick:):D;) Go the Volvo!!!
Regards
Robbo
I have a hat.

My mate John had a Volvo 740. It was astounding what that car was asked to do and did.
Still not as good as my VR Commodore though.

[Homestar]

No. It means you need to buy a hat.

Something like this? I would look pretty good getting about in the RRC with that...:D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

I would need a tweed jacket and a pipe to go with it though...

[disco man]

Something like this? I would look pretty good getting about in the RRC with that...:D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

I would need a tweed jacket and a pipe to go with it though...

Very nice Babs:)

[Mick_Marsh]

Something like this? I would look pretty good getting about in the RRC with that...:D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

I would need a tweed jacket and a pipe to go with it though...
Yes. That is a hat but, as you say, more for Rangie drivers.
I was thinking more like this for a Volvo driver
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/10/1109.jpg

but in looking at hats, I think I should buy one of these for whan I get out in the Merc
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/10/1110.jpg

[robbotd5]

Something like this? I would look pretty good getting about in the RRC with that...:D

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=85320&d=1413012651

I would need a tweed jacket and a pipe to go with it though...

I've always wanted one of those hats!!!
Regards
Robbo

[scarry]

And for the Dunny door drivers....:p:D

Oh,sometimes it needs reversing:angel:


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/10/1108.jpg (http://picturepush.com/public/14399803)


I have a hat.
Still not as good as my VR Commodore though.

My old VS clubby i recon was the best....:D

[Mick_Marsh]

And for the Dunny door drivers....:p:D

Oh,sometimes it needs reversing:angel:


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/10/1108.jpg (http://picturepush.com/public/14399803)



My old VS clubby i recon was the best....:D
You're right on both counts.
VR and VS were the best Commodores produced and that is the best hat to wear whilst driving them (even though some do put their head on backwards).

[pop058]

I thought this was standard headwear for Commode drivers :p

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/10/1104.jpg

It even has a GM part number :D

[Mick_Marsh]

I thought this was standard headwear for Commode drivers :p

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/10/1104.jpg

It even has a GM part number :D
My colour, too.

[Mick_Marsh]

Well, it's on.
Aren't they going fast. It'll all be wrapped up in about another six hours.

[Mick_Marsh]

First record broken. Fastest lap in the race.
I suspect that will be broken a few more times today.


2:08:000 a lap now.

[Homestar]

Yep, cracking pace so far. Just about to restart from the first safety car, so they have had a chance to take a breath now.

Go Volvo!!!

[Bytemrk]

Go Volvo!!!

Ha-Ha ... Thanks Gav....

After the years of bagging I gave my old man about his Volvo.....I'm feeling kind of awkward :angel:

Young Scott McLaughlin seems like a damn good driver....so I'm hoping the Volvo does OK. :burnrubber:

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Premer is no bunny,,

go the Volvo:cool:

[Outback 1]

I have a hat.

Still not as good as my VR Commodore though.

if you believe that you must be wearing these lol:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Antique-Draft-Horse-Blinkers-/181549088812?pt=AU_AnimalCollectables&hash=item2a452b402c

[Homestar]

Well, the safety car out for the Kangaroo strike caused more accidents that the rest of the day put together.

And the to track is falling apart at turn 2. I wonder if there will be enough cars finish to make up a podium...:wasntme:

From only 25 starters, they are dropping like flies.

And a driver taking out his own team mates car - wonder if he'll get a job after this...?

Fun, fun, fun.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

now that everyone knows about turn 2 it shouldnt be a problem,,,:angel::wasntme:

go the Volvo:cool:

[Homestar]

Ok, who forgot to screw the light bar onto the medical car properly...?:D

[V8Ian]

I wonder who resurfaced the track, Shire or contractors? :o
Questions will be asked in the House.

[scarry]

Ok, who forgot to screw the light bar onto the medical car properly...?:D

Same guys that organised the surface on the track at turn two....

[Pickles2]

BRILLLIANT first session by Jamie.
Pickles.

[Homestar]

So, it looks like the original resurface at turn 2 was faulty, as the are that is coming up is a patch of the new resurfacing. Someone is going to be in a world of **** come Monday morning about that. Wouldn't want to be in their shoes.

Now the race has been stopped - what a joke. Someone needs stringing up for this...

[scarry]

BRILLLIANT first session by Jamie.
Pickles.

Dead last to 3rd in something like 32 laps,not a bad drive:o

And a record as well

The bloke is just a machine

[scarry]

OK,service stop:o:eek:

[weeds]

Are these not aussie cars driving on an Aussie road

Fair dinkum

[boa]

This is being shown to 104 countries shame on the professional structure of the current bull**** state of business in Australia.

[bmw535guy]

Are these not aussie cars driving on an Aussie road

Fair dinkum

huh?

[pop058]

I presume you are referencing Bathurst ??

[grey_ghost]

Umm...

"Hey drivers - corner 2, stay on line. Off line is not good."

Not that hard... Really!

And yes - I am not a professional driver but have held a Cams license...

:)

[PAT303]

The race is turning into a farce. Pat

[scarry]

Are these not aussie cars driving on an Aussie road

Fair dinkum

Looks like same quality roads as we around here....

[bmw535guy]

The race is turning into a farce. Pat

What do you mean by "its turning into"? I have seen it as a farce a long time ago by the following:
1. Oh no overseas cars are eating up the aussie stuff for breakfast....dont force aussie manufacturers to adapt.......simply ban GTRs...or maybe Sierras
2. Limit the Rules so other manufacturers could only have a specific type of setup i.e. v8 etc..... cuts out the other guys
3. Many many many regulations that limit who can enter.
4. Big dollar companies only enter........bye bye privateers
etc etc etc...........limit corporate sponsorship. How you may ask? Simple, get them to develop parts as a team and show them off and sell them..... then effectively we will see evolution and fun...

[cripesamighty]

Generally I wouldn't have thought you would be hitting potholes slowing from 200+ kmh to 100+ kmh going through an uphill apex, no matter what car you are driving.

[boa]

It's not that easy and provides other problems a shame on a number of reasons.

[AllTerr]

This happened at the Daytona 500 a few years ago... Delayed the race about 4 hrs while repairs were made....



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[scarry]

Suppose the race will be shortened.

Hope not....

[weeds]

Drive around the potholes.......

[Homestar]

So, is there a time limit set for the race or will they still be able to run out to lap 161?

Or, is it now the Bathurst 900?

[Homestar]

So now the patch needs 25 minutes to dry before it can be used...

What an absolute joke, disgrace and embarrassment to all concerned. First time I've tuned into the V8's for years. Might be the last time for a few more...

[Mick_Marsh]

Drive around the potholes.......
Deploy the witches hats and the 25km/h speed restriction signs.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

oh get over it,,:p
the race will start again,
yes there is an overall time limit,, but atm I think its OK(going off previous wet races)

[Mick_Marsh]

Think I'll go and play with the Perentie.

[V8Ian]

Like wiping an elephant's bum with a cotton-bud. :clap2::Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:

[grey_ghost]

Garry Rogers "The race shouldn't have been stopped for that."

I rest my case your honour!!! Lol

[weeds]

Some of the teams are rebuilding their cars........stupid

The wealthy teams/factory backed get a helping hand when they least need it.

[boa]

I would suspect time limitations due to network commitment.

[Homestar]

2014 BathFARCEd 1000...?:D:angel:

[Pedro_The_Swift]

commentators said at 12.51 the race will run 161 laps unless there are further surface problems:cool:

[Pedro_The_Swift]

2014 BathFARCEd 1000...?:D:angel:

so where were you for the last two years ???:p

The odds on running a 6 hour race without a stoppage are astronomical

[boa]

Garry Rogers "The race shouldn't have been stopped for that."

I rest my case your honour!!! Lol

So Gary thought so and you agree with him. Nothing new here we always agree with someone who has our own opinions. He is just an opinion of many. Including mine.

[Homestar]

So it won't run the 161 laps then.:D

Can't see that patch lasting the rest of the race, hopefully they just let the race take its own course from here.

Racing again in 10 minutes - nearly an hours delay.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

should be racing by 5 past:cool:

[weeds]

Dead last to 3rd in something like 32 laps,not a bad drive:o



And a record as well



The bloke is just a machine


Keep saying he was leading the race.........I bet they stay out long enough to get that leading story as well

[Homestar]

so where were you for the last two years ???:p

The odds on running a 6 hour race without a stoppage are astronomical

As I said earlier - haven't tuned into the V8's for years due to it all getting too mundane and over regulated. Looks like nothing's changed unfortunately. I actually tuned in today because there are a few more makes now (if you can call them that). Hopefully there will be a good race from here to salvage the day and make me want to come back for more. :)

I still remember the days when nothing would slow the race down, and the tilt trays shared the circuit with the racing cars when there was an incident. Not that I want to see safety go back that far, just pointing out an example. ;)

[Homestar]

should be racing by 5 past:cool:

It's 6 past now...:angel:

[grey_ghost]

"Shambolick"... Lol !

[isuzurover]

I just got back from taking the dog for a walk. Can someone kindly fill me in on wtf happened - especially the volvo that was leading when I left...

[Pedro_The_Swift]

dont write off 33,,;)

[Homestar]

'Underpants change at Caltex Chase please, can we get some new undies to the chase please....'

[Homestar]

Is the safety car eligible to win the award for most time spent at the front of the pack during the race?

[Pedro_The_Swift]

2011 and 2010 safety cars nearly made me give it away:mad:

but the last two years have been brilliant races

[Chops]

Drive around the potholes.......


Deploy the witches hats and the 25km/h speed restriction signs.

They should be driving to the conditions,,,, they're supposed to be the "best of the best" behind a wheel,,, go figure.

[p38arover]

Have I been missing something?

I last went to the Bathurst race in 1966 or 1967 - it might have then been the Armstrong 500. I remember the approximate year because we were in my mate's new VC Valiant and it was before I became engaged to my wife in 1968.

It seems I haven't missed much in the meantime.

[V8Ian]

Well that sure killed the conversation, Ron. :p

[scarry]

Have I been missing something?


It seems I haven't missed much in the meantime.

nah,not much has happened,still driving the same cars,minis,cortinas,EH holdens :D:eek::p

[Mick_Marsh]

Well, I've just finished greasing the drive shafts on the Perentie. Had to fill the grease gun twice.

Have I missed anything?

[Pedro_The_Swift]

nobody knows who will win,,:confused::eek:

its a strange race:D

and Ron?

go back to sleep;):tease:

[Yorkie]

Have I been missing something?



I last went to the Bathurst race in 1966 or 1967 - it might have then been the Armstrong 500. I remember the approximate year because we were in my mate's new VC Valiant and it was before I became engaged to my wife in 1968.



It seems I haven't missed much in the meantime.


No reason to comment then really mr grumpy.
The race has been excellent so far. :)

[Mick_Marsh]

What!
A P plater is leading!

Well, no surprise, really. They're usually the fastest on the roads.

[Homestar]

And that's both Volvos out.... Both due to driver error...

Pity, they have both been performing well all day. Maybe next time...

Now, where's my hat...

[Mick_Marsh]

He's not out, yet, is he?
It's still on the safety car and they'll get that fixed quickly, won't they?

[robbotd5]

Ahhh **** it!!!! That S60has been red hot from the start.:twisted:
Regards
Robbo

[Bytemrk]

Here we go Gav....

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/10/1087.jpg


:p

[Dizza]

Have to feel for Scotty.

He looked shattered sitting in the car while they are working on the suspension.

Has been very smooth and quick all day. Looked like he was in with a serious chance to take it out.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Both pepsi fords on the podium?:angel::angel::angel:

[Pedro_The_Swift]

ROLLOVER!:(
all the players will now have new tyres and enough fuel for the sprint to the flag:cool::cool:

[Pedro_The_Swift]

I think the Enforcer should call it a day--:o

[Mick_Marsh]

The infamous turn 2 strikes again.
I wonder if it has any more surprises for us?

[Bytemrk]

Spectators at turn 2 certainly are getting their money's worth :eek::eek:

[Mick_Marsh]

I think the Enforcer should call it a day--:o
And Murph. They're the only two old boys still in it, aren't they?

[Homestar]

The 33 Volvo is back on the track. :)

[Homestar]

So, if there's no other safety car, looks like Frosty is the only one with enough fuel...

[Homestar]

So, anyone want to guess how this is going to finish...:)

[Mick_Marsh]

So, if there's no other safety car, looks like Frosty is the only one with enough fuel...
Maybe not.

Oh! Another safety car.

[Mick_Marsh]

WHAT!!!!!

[Homestar]

Got to say that Race 2 - this 100 lap race has been quite good.:)

How would Van Gisburgen be feeling about now?

[Mick_Marsh]

I reckon Lowndes will sprint to the finish and win.

[Homestar]

Will he get pinged for that tackle on Winterbottom? Didn't look like he meant it, but it happened...

Edit - yep, Lowndes is finished for the day...

[Mick_Marsh]

Lowndes was making a few too many mistakes.
I withdraw my earlier prediction.

[Mick_Marsh]

I must remember to breathe.

[Mick_Marsh]

Oh No!

[Mick_Marsh]

Well, I bet he wished he carried a jerry can.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Another Great Race
Well done Chas:cool:

[Homestar]

:clap2::clap2::clap2:

Well done Chaz! Last to first!

The beaten up Nissan came second and one of the Mercs finished 4th. :).

[Disco Muppet]

Hectic race!

[1950landy]

Good result & Whincup should be sacked for disobeying team orders.

[d2dave]

Being a Ford tragic, ten minutes after the finish and my heart is probably still beating faster than the winners.

What a race!!:):):):):):):)

[Bytemrk]

Wow...what a race....

... Been a long time since I enjoyed the racing at Bathurst like the last few hours.... Awesome:woot::woot:

[Mick_Marsh]

Good result & Whincup should be sacked for disobeying team orders.
Did he hear them?
He obeyed them when he acknowledged them.

[Homestar]

Is it me or do the 2nd and 3rd place trophies look like old mirrors from the op shop...?:angel:

[Homestar]

Good result & Whincup should be sacked for disobeying team orders.

Yep, I think he's only got himself to blame for not finishing on the podium. Anyway, too bad so sad.

[V8Ian]

Got to say that Race 2 - this 100 lap race has been quite good.:)

How would Van Gisburgen be feeling about now?

Bloody Lucas starters. :twisted:

[disco man]

That was the most crazy and exciting Bathurst i have ever seen. Well done FPR and very well done to Moffat and Davidson.

[hodgo]

It has to be one, if not the best finishes that I have witnessed, The last 3 laps were great driving. Hodgo

[DiscoPaul]

have to say that is the best race i've ever watched, motorsport fan and sometimes driver over twenty years and never been on the edge of my seat like that for a solid 8 hours

[d2dave]

Just watched the podium speech. How funny was Paul Morris.:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:

[Dizza]

Best bathurst ending in years!

[Chops]

Not bad at all,,,, Last to First,,
Well done Chas, and of course Ford. :D

Its a shame Frosty was taken out so close to the end too, but glad to see Lownde's penalised on the spot,,, and of course, Wincup's arrogance didn't pay off for him. If he'd just worried about staying ahead in stead of gaining length of lead, he could well have won. Serves himself right.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

well no,, the last four years were as close;):D.

maybe not so many safety cars:angel::(

[Fluids]

Best I've seen in a long time ! Edge of the seat stuff :eek:

Well deserved win !!

[LRDan]

Amazing race, I think myself and the old man ran out of chair on lap 160!
Best outcome for whingecup I believe, serves him right for not listening to his team! Although somehow it'll be his teams fault..

Was glad to see Lowndes penalised, the commentators were making him out to be an angel in that situation!

Gotta feel for Van Gisbergen though..

[LandyAndy]

Great race and result.
Shame Winterbottom got shafted.How good was he to keep it smoking the bags as he went around and keep going???
Andrew

[p38arover]

So, who won? Mercedes or Nissan?

[scarry]

What a great race:):)

So the two cars fighting for 1st and 2nd on the last lap both started at the rear of the grid.

And all the cars that finished 1st to 4th had been in the pits for repairs after accidents.

Amazing!

Lots of ifs and buts,if Whincup had short shifted earlier,if Loundes had not hit Winterbottom,just the usual fantastic Bathurst:D

If Van giz had not stalled it...

Good to see both Nissan and Volvo very competitive!

[Disco Muppet]

Its a shame Frosty was taken out so close to the end too, but glad to see Lownde's penalised on the spot,,,

Bollocks, wasn't intentional at all! :mad: :angel:
Frosty gave him no-where to go.
Then again, Ingall taking out the merc wasn't intentional...

[Hoges]

Just watched the podium speech. How funny was Paul Morris.:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:

Yep, straight from the heart !gotta love it when the unpredictable happens...Morris was pinching himself I think to wonder if it was all real!

James Moffat was 8?yrs old when Nissan drivers last appeared on the Bathurst podium in 1992. a.k.a. Jim Richards and Mark Skaife in their Nissan GTR. Richards' response to the crowd's anger (@ Nissan winning) was less than flattering..

So what did young Moffat say? something along the lines of "Thank you all you lovely people":eek::D:D:D That lad has an eye for the ironic and a sharp wit... I predict good things post his racing career!

[disco man]

The mountain showed why it has to be respected,and why in my view its the best race in the world. The stories and the drama that unfolds every year plus the level of driving it brings out is just amazing. The people that knock V8 supercars really don't know bloody good racing when they see it. At any stage there were multiple teams that good have won it. If you said at the start of the week that HRT was going to come nowhere or Nissan would come second or Whincup would run out of fuel or Dale wood and Jack Perkins would be in the shootout you would have got laughed at. Besides all the drama at turn two,i think the nature of some of the mechanical issues was very interesting. HRT having a brake failure,Scott Pye having his tyre come off the rim,Steve Johnson transmission drama,Vangisbergen stater motor,HRT dash problems,Whincup's brain not working,But as harsh as some of the comments towards Whincup have been you have to say the performance he and Dumbrell put in today has to rate in the very top of all time driving feats seen at the Mountain,from last row on the grid to fall just short of victory is amazing,same could have been said of Reynolds.

Moztert and Morris put it together very well today,11 pit stops and still win is something special. I must admit i was not very impressed with channel 7's constant ad breaks during all the safety car and race suspension periods. Many times they would came back to the race after a very long block of ads they would mutter two or three sentences and back to the same ads that have been showing all bloody day. During these periods why not spend some time talking about the cars or some info on the teams? During the slower parts of the race channel 7 made it twice as bad for the viewers.

[robbotd5]

The #33 Volvo was more than competitive! It led for most of the race and if Scotty did not put it into the wall there would have been a Volvo on the podium...again. But....that's Bathurst. Well done to the podium finishers!!! What another great race!!
Roll on next season.
Regards
Robbo

[worane]

Now that was some race!

[ramblingboy42]

the 1000?

1000 advertisments......

[disco man]

The #33 Volvo was more than competitive! It led for most of the race and if Scotty did not put it into the wall there would have been a Volvo on the podium...again. But....that's Bathurst. Well done to the podium finishers!!! What another great race!!
Roll on next season.
Regards
Robbo

G'day Rob, i was shattered when Scott hit that wall,he and Alex were on track for a podium 100% also Dahlgren had a very good race. This team will be a major player and Scotty is a future champion and Bathurst winner.

[V8Ian]

Well, it's on.
Aren't they going fast. It'll all be wrapped up in about another six hours.
Got indigestion Mick? ;)

[disco man]

the 1000?

1000 advertisments......

A very interesting and exciting race ruined by the same bloody ads over and over and over again, I have developed a hatred of every business i had rammed into me by channel 7 today:mad:

[Homestar]

the 1000?

1000 advertisments......

I thought horse 5 did very well. It won that race about 50 times in a row...:D

[Eevo]

lol @ track falling apart

[Mick_Marsh]

Got indigestion Mick? ;)
Why do you ask?

[Chops]

Bollocks, wasn't intentional at all! :mad: :angel:
Frosty gave him no-where to go.
Then again, Ingall taking out the merc wasn't intentional...

No one said it was intentional. They never have anywhere to go,,, that's racing ;)

[Mick_Marsh]

No one said it was intentional. They never have anywhere to go,,, that's racing ;)
Why was he penalised with a drive through?

[LandyAndy]

Same as on the road Mick,shaft somebody and you are guilty.
Andrew

[d2dave]

Bollocks, wasn't intentional at all! :mad: :angel:
Frosty gave him no-where to go.


Muppet. I suggest you get yourself down to Specsavers. After reading this I went and had another look at it.

From the ariel footage that was shown on the replay lowndes came around the corner and hit him in the rear.

As for it been intentional. No it wasn't, but very few incidents are. At the end of the day if you are in the wrong and take out another driver, you get penalised.

Now you lot complaining about all the adds, serve yourself right for watching them. I record the race and start watching it about an hour and a half after it starts. I then just skip the adds.

[Pickles2]

Excellent race.
Jamie's initial stint was absolutely brilliant, ya don't see driving like that very often, and he was VERY modest about it, "Ah well, it wasn't as hard as it looked, I was mainly driving against the No 2 drivers". And he came close again, BUT, ya can't win a 161 lap race with only 160 laps worth of fuel!
Well done Chaz, and well done to James Moffatt & Nick Percat, three "young guns".
I thought Ch 7 did a top job, and Larko as usual was brilliant. Ads?.. ya can't do much about them, it will be interesting to see how Ch 10 measure up next year.
Track breaking up?..Nothing new about that, I've watched Motor Racing for years, & it happens,...races get stopped & they try to fix it. Never happened in the "old days", but ya know what it's like these days,..safety, doing the right thing, shoulda done this, shoulda done that, & imagine what would've been said if they hadn't tried to fix the track, & someone had been killed in an accident as a result of the breaking up,....the dogooders would've had a ball.
Working on cars on the track during "the stop",...don't know about that one.
But I don't make the rules.
V8 Supercars face a few challenges. Not only Ford's committment, but Holden have only committed until the year before Commodore ends production? And, I don't like the chances of Erebus continuing with no sponsorship?
Anyway, this race was an absolute ripper, & I really enjoyed watching it
Pickles.

[weeds]

gotta agree pickles....rebuilding the cars on the grid didn't seem right.

I thought they should have just parked them up and resumed with no repairs i.e. like the race never stopped.

[d2dave]

Ads?.. ya can't do much about them


Yes you can. Read the last line in my last post number 142.

As for doing repairs on the track during the stopped race. Could not agree more with the previous two posts. I reckon it is unfair on the ones that have managed to keep their car in good shape.

[Homestar]

Yeah, the fact they got to work on the cars almost made it like there were 2 races. A bit of a joke really.

[Pickles2]

Yes you can. Read the last line in my last post number 142.

As for doing repairs on the track during the stopped race. Could not agree more with the previous two posts. I reckon it is unfair on the ones that have managed to keep their car in good shape.
Ads?...Ha ha ha, yeah good idea, we've got a T box, & I think it's got a facility like that, but mate, I am bloody hopeless at trying to work out how all that stuff works, it would've ruined my day!
Only the Enduros are FTA next year, which I didn't like, but as I love V8 Supercars, I'm leaning to giving Foxtel a go.
I don't think anyone likes "ads", but I go back a long way,& I can remember worse "interuptions". Anyone remember "World Of Sport" with Ron Casey & Jack Dyer & co? Well that used to be on TV for 3 hrs on Sunday, but on Bathurst telecast days, it still ran, mid day on the Sunday, only supposed to be for an hour (that was bad enough), but sometimes they (Ron, Jack & Co) would babble on for THREE HOURS!!!...Imagine that amount of time out of the telecast?
Pickles.

[disco man]

Excellent race.
Jamie's initial stint was absolutely brilliant, ya don't see driving like that very often, and he was VERY modest about it, "Ah well, it wasn't as hard as it looked, I was mainly driving against the No 2 drivers". And he came close again, BUT, ya can't win a 161 lap race with only 160 laps worth of fuel!
Well done Chaz, and well done to James Moffatt & Nick Percat, three "young guns".
I thought Ch 7 did a top job, and Larko as usual was brilliant. Ads?.. ya can't do much about them, it will be interesting to see how Ch 10 measure up next year.
Track breaking up?..Nothing new about that, I've watched Motor Racing for years, & it happens,...races get stopped & they try to fix it. Never happened in the "old days", but ya know what it's like these days,..safety, doing the right thing, shoulda done this, shoulda done that, & imagine what would've been said if they hadn't tried to fix the track, & someone had been killed in an accident as a result of the breaking up,....the dogooders would've had a ball.
Working on cars on the track during "the stop",...don't know about that one.
But I don't make the rules.
V8 Supercars face a few challenges. Not only Ford's committment, but Holden have only committed until the year before Commodore ends production? And, I don't like the chances of Erebus continuing with no sponsorship?
Anyway, this race was an absolute ripper, & I really enjoyed watching it
Pickles.

G'day Pickles, yep it was a ripper of a race. The drives from the blokes at the back of the grid was just amazing and some of the best that has ever been seen not only at the mountain but anywhere. And fully agree in regards to working on the cars during the red flag period,silly rule. And it would be an absolute tragedy if all Erebus hard work was in vain,Betty and the team have poured their heart and soul into that team. Mercedes Benz Australia need to pull their heads out of their asses and help this team out.

[1950landy]

On the radio this morning they said that Lowndes has apologised to Wimterbottom for turning him around.:cool:

[Disco Muppet]

And I'd believe it.
Lowndes is a gentleman. It's why he's so popular.

[Pickles2]

And I'd believe it.
Lowndes is a gentleman. It's why he's so popular.
Spot on.
Pickles.

[incisor]

the guy used to bring in his mates computer for me to fix when i had the shop down in morayfield.

lovely fella in real life and a real competitor when he has the eyes on...

i much prefer him over brock....

but then again i preferred that dam canadian in the old days....

[Pickles2]

the guy used to bring in his mates computer for me to fix when i had the shop down in morayfield.

lovely fella in real life and a real competitor when he has the eyes on...

i much prefer him over brock....

but then again i preferred that dam canadian in the old days....
"That Damn Canadian",....Very apt,....an awesome competitor, the BEST FORD MAN ever seen in Aus, & a very nice chap to speak with,....if He wasn't racing.
Pickles.

[vnx205]

So, who won? Mercedes or Nissan?

Well the top ten finishers included one Mercedes, two Fords, three Nissans and four Holdens, so Mercedes and Nissans came close. :)

[vnx205]

Some of us are old enough to remember when Brock did his fastest lap as the final lap of the race. That has often been regarded as an impressive effort.

A few drivers did their fastest laps at the end this year and repeatedly broke the lap record as the race drew to a close.

Surely that ranks up there with Brock's effort.

[Hoges]

Some observations...
there were some interesting parallels on Sunday with technical postings on this forum:eek: Indeed... the first thing that struck me was that despite $700k+ for a competitive car, hundreds of thousands of dollars for sensors and telemetry, even "they" still replace parts ...in the "hope" it will fix something they cannot properly diagnose in the heat of "battle"! ...
Can't remember who it was ...they replaced his computerised steering wheel: no improvement; then it was a section of the wiring loom...bit better but not real good, then it was a throttle position sensor... ;) ...see it happens even to the best!

another case was the vibration someone had and a bloke was standing there with part of a drive shaft... then it struck me... these machines have a trans-axle at the rear... so this long drive shaft (are they split in the middle with a CV joint?) is rotating at upwards of 7,000rpm ... I reckon I'd be vibrating at those revs!

then there were the starter motors! I'll wager they were not your average reco job... I heard one commentator mention the 'big-hammer-applied-to-starter-motor' solution to free the Bendix spring... didn't work either..

I have a more than a sneaking admiration for the pit crew who slide under the vehicles in fireproof suits, helmet and gloves to tend a machine radiating thousands of watts of heat...

While the superV8 formula is interesting, having been a fan of the old days when vehicles were 'homologated' showroom models and competed in classes, frankly I would not miss the demise of the superV8s... too regulated ... and it ultimately stifles innovation.

[Pickles2]

Some of us are old enough to remember when Brock did his fastest lap as the final lap of the race. That has often been regarded as an impressive effort.

A few drivers did their fastest laps at the end this year and repeatedly broke the lap record as the race drew to a close.

Surely that ranks up there with Brock's effort.
Agree, but on that occasion, Brock also won by,.....6 laps!!!
Pickles.
Not having a go by the way, things were different back then, and the competition these days is VERY close,......I reckon the drivers these days work bloody hard & are under enormous pressure.

[Hoges]

Agree, but on that occasion, Brock also won by,.....6 laps!!!
Pickles.
Not having a go by the way, things were different back then, and the competition these days is VERY close,......I reckon the drivers these days work bloody hard & are under enormous pressure.

Don't disagree at all... it's not for sissies! May have been Paul Dumbrell ...can't remember poor bugger was close to hyper thermic and dehydrated and collapsed in the garage after his stint so they dumped him in an ice bath...

I do remember an interview once with Leo Geoghan where he recalls racing at Bathurst one year with sandwiches and a thermos of coffee beside him :eek: and another bloke was an inveterate smoker...during the race...I think one of the tobacco companies was a sponsor for several years...

[isuzurover]

The 2 Volvos did well for most of the race despite the fact it is their first year.

AFAIK they are the only ones using their own V8???

Without all the safety cars and they may have reached an unassailable lead. It seems none of the POS pushrod engines could catch them when they were out in front. They certainly sound a lot better.

Hopefully they will open up the rules once the falcon is no more and the commodore is a FWD v6 with "made in china" stickers. :wasntme:

[disco man]

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The 2 Volvos did well for most of the race despite the fact it is their first year.

AFAIK they are the only ones using their own V8???

Without all the safety cars and they may have reached an unassailable lead. It seems none of the POS pushrod engines could catch them when they were out in front. They certainly sound a lot better.

Hopefully they will open up the rules once the falcon is no more and the commodore is a FWD v6 with "made in china" stickers. :wasntme:

The Volvo certainly has a very distinctive sound and was a very good race. But the next Commodore is coming from Germany not China. Not sure what you mean about their own V8? Nissan V8 engine is a de-stroked version of the 5.6l Erebus use a AMG V8, and technically the Volvo V8 came from Yamaha in 4.4L form and was enlarged by Polestar.

[vnx205]

Agree, but on that occasion, Brock also won by,.....6 laps!!!
Pickles.
Not having a go by the way, things were different back then, and the competition these days is VERY close,......I reckon the drivers these days work bloody hard & are under enormous pressure.


You're right. Things were very different.

One of the things that makes it difficult to compare sportsmen from different eras is that so many other things change.

For example, did Brock have ten safety car incidents compressing the field behind him at regular intervals?

BTW, I'm just asking, not arguing.

[1950landy]

Just read on V8 Supercar web site that Roland Dane told Wingcup as he got out of car 1 that he is responsible for them loosing the race .

[Pickles2]

You're right. Things were very different.

One of the things that makes it difficult to compare sportsmen from different eras is that so many other things change.

For example, did Brock have ten safety car incidents compressing the field behind him at regular intervals?

BTW, I'm just asking, not arguing.
Did they have "Safety Cars" in those days, or just a tilt tray?
Pickles.

[disco man]

Just read on V8 Supercar web site that Roland Dane told Wingcup as he got out of car 1 that he is responsible for them loosing the race .

Yeah he is not happy got this from the Sydney Morning Herald.

Red Bull racing team owner Roland Dane has slammed V8 Supercars championship leader Jamie Whincup for ignoring team orders to conserve fuel and costing them victory at the Bathurst 1000. The Holden star was urged by engineer David Cauhci and team manager Mark Dutton to ease his pace in the dying stages of Sundays drama-filled race. But the four-time Bathurst winner kept pushing and extending the lead to three seconds. He eventually ran out of fuel on the 161st and final lap allowing Ford tyro Chaz Moztert to pass him for the win. Whincup coasted home in fifth. "He has won a lot of races for us,but he has lost one for us,it just happens to be the biggest one." Dane told V8 Supercars website. "One hundred per cent that was against our advice and its just not clever. And its dissapointing we didn't manage our fuel as well as we could have." says Dane.

Whincup was not sorry for running his own strategy and was happy he put on a 'good show'. "There were two options in my head: Conserve the fuel they wanted me to conserve,or go all out and try and win the race," he said. "We went all out and ended up finishing fifth." Whincup started the day in 23rd,but worked his way into the top five in just 15 laps. The result has kept him on top of the overall standings on his way to a sixth championship. Things didn't work out well for his teammate Craig Lowndes who was relegated to 10th after clipping Ford's Mark Winterbottom with 11 laps to go. He copped a drive through penalty for causing the incident that ended both their chances of victory. Lowndes said it was his fault,blaming the sun glare,and said he spoke to Winterbottom after the race.

It marked just the second time in a decade that 888 engineering,racing as Red Bull has missed the podium at Bathurst. "We win or lose collectively as a team,and there were other aspects we didn't do well enough and will have to improve," Dane said. "We were fast enough to have a 1-2 but we didn't."

[Homestar]

...
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment.php?attachmentid=85401&d=1413191136

[scarry]

The #33 Volvo was more than competitive! It led for most of the race and if Scotty did not put it into the wall there would have been a Volvo on the podium...again. But....that's Bathurst. Well done to the podium finishers!!! What another great race!!
Roll on next season.
Regards
Robbo

Couple of races to go before the season finishes:)

Whincup definitely didn't do himself any favours, after disobeying team orders,but if he had won,things may be a bit different.

[d2dave]

You're right. Things were very different.

One of the things that makes it difficult to compare sportsmen from different eras is that so many other things change.

For example, did Brock have ten safety car incidents compressing the field behind him at regular intervals?

BTW, I'm just asking, not arguing.

He also had the luxury of a multicar team with the rules allowing him to kick the driver out of one of the other cars when his broke down.

In one of his Bathurst wins he used three cars to do it.

[Pickles2]

He also had the luxury of a multicar team with the rules allowing him to kick the driver out of one of the other cars when his broke down.

In one of his Bathurst wins he used three cars to do it.
Yes, not a fan of that rule. I don't think I could've done that.
Pickles.

[scarry]

Yes, not a fan of that rule. I don't think I could've done that.
Pickles.

One year his brother was in the team, because Brock jumped cars,the brother didn't get a drive.:(

[1950landy]

Couple of races to go before the season finishes:)

Whincup definitely didn't do himself any favours, after disobeying team orders,but if he had won,things may be a bit different.

What if he was to loose the champonship because of the difference in the points between 2nd or 3rd & 5th :Dthen he may do as he is told:cool:

[CraigE]

Well the whole race was a bit of a joke.
The red flag BS even in the rules provided unfair advantage to certain teams.
The decision to short fuel Lowndes so Whinchup would not have to stack was a joke and cost Lowndes the race. Roland needs to look at this first as this is was cost them and was just stupid as they new they would then need a splash and dash even with a safety car. Has been a huge ongoing issue with Whincup always getting preferential treatment.
Lowndes being penalized for Winterbottom sliding the back end and causing the incident was a joke.
If Whincup had slowed he would have been passed by at least 3 cars before the flag dropped so really inconsequential.
The track should not have been fixed and the drivers should have adapted.
Safety cars like this race were a joke that benefitted drivers that had previously caused issues, like Mpstert and Whincup and makes the sport look ridiculous. They did not get to the front by skill but by safety cars.

[Pickles2]

Well the whole race was a bit of a joke.
The red flag BS even in the rules provided unfair advantage to certain teams.
The decision to short fuel Lowndes so Whinchup would not have to stack was a joke and cost Lowndes the race. Roland needs to look at this first as this is was cost them and was just stupid as they new they would then need a splash and dash even with a safety car. Has been a huge ongoing issue with Whincup always getting preferential treatment.
Lowndes being penalized for Winterbottom sliding the back end and causing the incident was a joke.
If Whincup had slowed he would have been passed by at least 3 cars before the flag dropped so really inconsequential.
The track should not have been fixed and the drivers should have adapted.
Safety cars like this race were a joke that benefitted drivers that had previously caused issues, like Mpstert and Whincup and makes the sport look ridiculous. They did not get to the front by skill but by safety cars.
Glad you enjoyed the race, which has been recognized by an overwhelming majority as the best in years.
Winterbottom/Lowndes?...BBIIGG fan of Craig here. Mate, Lowndes turned him around,...nothing to do with Frosty, and....he cost Frosty several places,.....Lowndes admitted his mistake.
"Stacking"?..I don't like it either,...who does. Favourites?..Don't think so, ..the driver that's in front usually comes in first, which is invariably Whincup.
Track fixing & safety cars,...Mate, I'm not in favour of them either, but it's really the world we live in, "Do gooders", "Gotta do the right thing", ra ra ra, & imagine the drama from the "dogooders" (they would've had a field day?)if someone had actually gone off the track, hit a wall, turned over, or whatever, & been killed as a result of that part of the track breaking up,.....and it DID cause some drama.
It's about time you got into that SS of yours & started a thread on it, Pickles.

[Disco Muppet]

Went and checked out Turn 2 today, here's some piccies...

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/10/961.jpg (http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/DiscoMuppet/media/2014-10-15120259_zps84796b1d.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/10/962.jpg (http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/DiscoMuppet/media/2014-10-15120250_zps34dbc192.jpg.html)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/10/963.jpg (http://s1166.photobucket.com/user/DiscoMuppet/media/2014-10-15120305_zpsfa2e990e.jpg.html)

[disco man]

G'day Disco muppet, How deep are those?

[Disco Muppet]

Be close to an inch deep in the centre of some of the bigger ones, nothing deeper than that.

[d2dave]

This must have been after the repair, looking at Bacicat's pics in post 165:)

[1950landy]

The v8's need to introduce the new ruel they have in F1 where the pit crew are not allowed to give the driver any instructions on how to drive the car & what to do to get more power or better fuel economy.:(
Wingecup would probely like that & he could do what ever he wants & even still blame some one else.:D I see that in the F1 one of the teams protested that Redbull were giving there driver instructions in code.:cool:

[CraigE]

Glad you enjoyed the race, which has been recognized by an overwhelming majority as the best in years.
Winterbottom/Lowndes?...BBIIGG fan of Craig here. Mate, Lowndes turned him around,...nothing to do with Frosty, and....he cost Frosty several places,.....Lowndes admitted his mistake.
"Stacking"?..I don't like it either,...who does. Favourites?..Don't think so, ..the driver that's in front usually comes in first, which is invariably Whincup.
Track fixing & safety cars,...Mate, I'm not in favour of them either, but it's really the world we live in, "Do gooders", "Gotta do the right thing", ra ra ra, & imagine the drama from the "dogooders" (they would've had a field day?)if someone had actually gone off the track, hit a wall, turned over, or whatever, & been killed as a result of that part of the track breaking up,.....and it DID cause some drama.
It's about time you got into that SS of yours & started a thread on it, Pickles.

:D:D
Winterbottom actually stepped out at Hell Corner causing his car to decelerate and Lowndes at speed and ready to make an overtaking move could not stop quick enough. Whenever this has happened all year it has not resulted in a penalty with Winterbottom being guilty of the same on at least 2 occasions, Whincup more. I am on more about consistency of rulings and that is not occuring. With only 6 laps to go they should have reviewed it after the race. The commentator could not believe he got pinged for it.
I agree with what you have said with the track breaking up, but surely the drivers are intelligent enough to avoid it? There have been far rougher surfaces in the past. May be some legal action against the company that laid it. You could see from the air they had done a patch job well before it broke up and even the day before.
Yes I need to get some dollars and get the SS on the road, after the Defender is running and I am gainfully employed again.:D

[disco man]

Some funny moments from Friday night live for those that might have missed it.


V8 Supercars - Friday Night Live at Bathurst 2014 - YouTube


Plus a Nascar champions take on Bathurst.


Waltrip's Ride Of A Lifetime - YouTube

[Mick_Marsh]

This must have been after the repair, looking at Bacicat's pics in post 165:)
Nah. It's the angle of the camera.