Roof gutters?

[Striker]

Hey everyone,

Seeing I haven't yet picked up my p38, and I can't zoom in far enough on the photos I have of it, I thought I'd ask..

Does the p38 have the old style guttering around the roof?
More specifically, can I fit gutter-mount roof racks?

--Striker.

[daf11e]

No gutters, just two flat rail type strips along the roof front to back.....these have mount points in them...sorry don't know what they are actually called.

[daf11e]

Like this

[Hoges]

When you slide the cover back there is a channel in the roof. The channel has a metal "partition" running along its middle about 10mm high and 1-2mm thick. The roof rack mount is designed to "grip" the partition. The roof rack/bars etc then screw into the mount.
It never ceases to amaze me how some people will overload a pair of roof bars when all that's ultimately holding the whole lot to the (gutterless) roof are (usually) four 5mm screws!!

[p38arover]

The cover strips pop out quite easily if you have roof rack where the spacing of the legs doesn't match the cut outs.

Mine is currently sans covers strips for that very reason.

[Striker]

The cover strips pop out quite easily if you have roof rack where the spacing of the legs doesn't match the cut outs.

Mine is currently sans covers strips for that very reason.

I'm hoping to fit three crossbars, so with any luck the cut-outs should be fine.

Unfortunately, I'm not having much luck locating a set that isn't going to set me back over $600 (a brand new Rhino heavy duty set).

I had an offer made to me today, but they were gutter-mount, and seeing I now know that the p38 doesn't have gutters, they won't be suitable.

--Striker.

[daf11e]

I've had a set of Rola on mine for many years and have carried various weights.....depends if your looking for better quality.....think I paid around $100 for them at the time.

[Striker]

I've had a set of Rola on mine for many years and have carried various weights.....depends if your looking for better quality.....think I paid around $100 for them at the time.

I'm all for a $100 set of bars, but I'll be carrying 75-ish kilos at all times, and possibly up to a hundred from time to time.

The Rhino three-bar set that I'm looking at is rated for 80 kilos, and is their heavy-duty offering.

Is there something out there with a higher carrying capacity? I'm not opposed to flat platforms, but I can't have a basket, as I'm putting on a rooftop tent.

--Striker.

[daf11e]

These flat ones were rated for 80 at the time and can get a bit springy in the middle, I have always distributed the weight over the four corners.this is probably not going to be suitable for your purpose.I believe they do make a heavy duty but not sure of the price.......good luck

[Hoges]

I'm hoping to fit three crossbars, so with any luck the cut-outs should be fine.

Unfortunately, I'm not having much luck locating a set that isn't going to set me back over $600 (a brand new Rhino heavy duty set).

I had an offer made to me today, but they were gutter-mount, and seeing I now know that the p38 doesn't have gutters, they won't be suitable.

--Striker.

Damned if I can see the justification for charging $600+ for three lengths of extruded aluminium ...

[Striker]

Damned if I can see the justification for charging $600+ for three lengths of extruded aluminium ...

Those are probably $20 each, with the six feet being $50 each, because it's custom-fit to the roof tracks.

I'm doing all I can to find an alternative. If you know anyone who has some second-hand heavy duty bars, I'd love to hear about it.

--Striker.

[Alex 110]

Try boscoauto on ebay. I got a set of 3 bars (rhino copy) rated to 150kg for $189 delivered to my door. Gutterless may cost more but they seem to have a good range of stuff

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[TheTree]

I'm all for a $100 set of bars, but I'll be carrying 75-ish kilos at all times, and possibly up to a hundred from time to time.

The Rhino three-bar set that I'm looking at is rated for 80 kilos, and is their heavy-duty offering.

Is there something out there with a higher carrying capacity? I'm not opposed to flat platforms, but I can't have a basket, as I'm putting on a rooftop tent.

--Striker.

The carrying capacity of the roof also comes into this equation at 75KG specified by LR

Steve

[Striker]

The carrying capacity of the roof also comes into this equation at 75KG specified by LR

Steve

Hey Steve,

I'm glad you pointed that out. While I was already aware (and simply dicing with disaster), it's good for anyone reading this thread who may not already know the roof load rating.

I'm not real sure how I'm going to play all of this. 63 kilos for the roof top tent, then I need the roof racks, and I'm planning on putting a sizeable solar panel on top.
I think I'm going to be pushing 80 kilos.
There's going to have to be some weighing of things involved, and possibly a smaller solar panel than I'd like.

--Striker.

[Hoges]

If you are going to be driving with a heavy load on the roof rack/bars, the recommended DNE( "do not exceed") weight of 75kg, is for generally smooth roads. The rule of thumb for rough roads is 50% of the recommended DNE.

While I have an Aussi Explorer on a trailer, I have an "Oasis" for the roof bars. Got it at a discount sale several yrs ago. It weighs just 17kg http://www.trekking.fr/

It can be erected on the ground and I have used it several times for overflow of rellies at Christmas ...simply put it out on the back deck!

[Striker]

If you are going to be driving with a heavy load on the roof rack/bars, the recommended DNE( "do not exceed") weight of 75kg, is for generally smooth roads. The rule of thumb for rough roads is 50% of the recommended DNE.

While I have an Aussi Explorer on a trailer, I have an "Oasis" for the roof bars. Got it at a discount sale several yrs ago. It weighs just 17kg Bagages-Ceintures Multipoches-Tentes de toit 4x4-Accessoires photo (http://www.trekking.fr/)

It can be erected on the ground and I have used it several times for overflow of rellies at Christmas ...simply put it out on the back deck!

Here's the roof top tent that I will be buying:
Bundutec Bundutop (http://www.bundutec.com.au/products.php?ptid=1)

--Striker.

[Hoges]

I particularly like the way the short awnings deploy to keep water away from the walls. The way it folds down seems to almost eliminate the possibility of damp bedding if you have to pack up in the rain...Nice bit of kit!;)

[TheTree]

Pretty cool tent there Striker :p