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Pedro_The_Swift
16th November 2012, 05:52 PM
can some one explain to me how the rear suspension works?
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/11/572.jpg

The new 2013 Cali is 1400cc's
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2012/11/573.jpg

shorty943
18th November 2012, 09:04 AM
It appears to be a "unilever" system, that top pair of arms is actually connected to the top of the shocker system, NOT, to the bikes frame. It also looks a bit weak to me, but it is from Bimoto so it should be pretty solid, looks like the main swingarm section actually is mounted to and pivots from the back of the gearbox.

goingbush
18th November 2012, 09:22 AM
I dont get it either, just looks wrong.
Drawing is the DB7 but the same setup

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

42rangie
22nd November 2012, 05:31 AM
Pedro: It does appear the spring/shock unit would extend on the upwards movement of the swing arm. But it may be compressed by the linkage seen under the lower part of the swing arm. It is hard to tell from the images.

Les

42rangie
22nd November 2012, 05:38 AM
Love the Guzzi. My cousin had an 850 with an automatic tranny ( He lost his left foot in a farming accident) and he would ride all over the country. It was a sweet bike. Auto trans on bikes are weird. Great on highway and for commuting. Just takes some getting use to.

Bigbjorn
22nd November 2012, 09:24 AM
I dont get it either, just looks wrong.
Drawing is the DB7 but the same setup

http://image.sportrider.com/f/31665453+w750+st0/146_1001_10_z+bimota_DB7_oronero+chassis_design.jp g

I can't figure it out either. There does seem to be a lot of wearpoints in there. I wonder what that Z linkage on the bottom does?

Maybe one needs to observe the real thing to deduce the action.

ade
23rd November 2012, 05:28 PM
I havent worked it out but I can say it certainly works well on my bimota

TeamFA
23rd November 2012, 05:38 PM
Knowing nothing about the bike, from the pics it could be an expansion-type shock absorber. I have one underslung on the Buell M2 Cyclone at home, though Buell went to a more conventional compression-type shock on my XB.

shorty943
24th November 2012, 09:47 AM
Pedro: It does appear the spring/shock unit would extend on the upwards movement of the swing arm. But it may be compressed by the linkage seen under the lower part of the swing arm. It is hard to tell from the images.

Les

Close, it's a pretty standard compression type system, the top arm holds the shocker in place while the lower Z link does the actual compression work acting on the bottom of the system. Therefore the shocker actually does compress with upward movement of the swinging arm system.

goingbush
24th November 2012, 09:52 AM
why isnt the top of the shocker mounted on the frame, like on other bikes, seems strange to extend the swing arm up just to make a place to mount the shock

Pedro_The_Swift
24th November 2012, 06:18 PM
While I have no educated idea---:angel::D

the point that controls the "other end" of the shock could be anywhere,,,
it just happens to be low down near the swing arm,,

maybe?:confused:

SuperMono
29th November 2012, 12:05 PM
You can do anything with levers, pivots, pushrods and pullrods.
No need for either end of the shock/spring unit to be attached to a fixed point.
As long as the spring is being compressed or extended when the wheel moves it can be made to work.

I suspect most of the reason for this particular arrangement is to be a bit different and because it looks good (Italian after all).