When the Puma was first released

[olbod]

I saw a video clip where the Puma was chained to a semi trailer standing in neautral with brakes off.
Old mate stood beside open Puma door, thingy was in low first brakes off.
From outside he turned key and the thing started and moved off towing the semi !!!
Demonstrating the no stall thingamajig.
Brilliant.
Now, does anyone have a link to or a copy of that video clip please ?

Ta.

[bob10]

Here ya go, Bob

Land Rover Defender Towing a 12 Tonne Truck. - YouTube



RR LR Defender 2007 - Anti Stall test - YouTube

[olbod]

Crikey.
Thanks heaps.
Prado owner next door didn't believe me.
I will run off a copy and give it to him.

[PAT303]

Olbod,the TDCi cops a lot of flack by the knockers,you know,the diffs are weak and the motors no good,once you've driven one and learned how they work they are a very impressive little jigger. Pat

[olbod]

Olbod,the TDCi cops a lot of flack by the knockers,you know,the diffs are weak and the motors no good,once you've driven one and learned how they work they are a very impressive little jigger. Pat

Yes, I am a fan and I still think the Defender is the best looking 4x4 ever built.
I would buy one without a doubt if only they came with an auto and cruise control. Before Me Disco I owned five earlier manual Landy's starting in 1962.
I loved them all.
They can be modified and built to suit over time but I dont think I have enough time left.
Thinkin about a Sport.

[swampmonster]

This is brilliant - I had no idea my Puma could do this - I'm gonna test it out today! Thanks for posting this

[PAT303]

These types of technique's have been posted on here before but like I've posted above they attract the knockers who discredit them. Pat

[BilboBoggles]

Try stalling out a PUMA in Low first with your brake pedal....

[scarry]

Olbod,the TDCi cops a lot of flack by the knockers,you know,the diffs are weak and the motors no good,once you've driven one and learned how they work they are a very impressive little jigger. Pat

Good example is the people that keep knocking the traction control,want to take out the fuse to stop it working,particularly in soft sand.Some D2 owners want to do this as well.

My son's had an intermittent fault with a TC wheel sensor on Fraser island where there was a lot of very soft sand.
This disables the TC and ABS.

The performance of the vehicle with the TC operational in soft sand was way better than with it disabled.In fact with the TC operational,the Puma has as good ability as his mates Pootrol with dual lockers,in most,if not all, situations.

[PAT303]

The biggest problem is people don't want to learn how to drive them,just watch the video and compare the clutch burning manual way to the dead easy anti-stall one. Pat

[cripesamighty]

"The biggest problem is people don't want to learn how to drive them"

Yep, I know someone who drives their Puma like they were driving a 300Tdi or the TD5. We had a few 'discussions' about it, on the odd occasion, especially when the subject of sand driving came up. Luckily the car is extremely capable as they were never interested in RTFM....

[Loubrey]

I think that's hit the nail squarly on the head…

Everywhere else in the world Land Rover offers a free halfway training session at one the their Experience centres. You get to drive one "just like yours" regardless of which model you bought without taking your brand new prove and joy off road. This encourages even the biggest "know it all's" to take up the offer.

The biggest learning curve by a country mile has always been the Defender guys trading up from a 300Tdi or Td5…(I have to count myself in there as well). Everybody remains of the opinion that they know all there is to know about off road driving - that's until they're shown how to release the full potential from a Tdci Defender.

All I can say is that I've seen many a dropped jaw…

Cheers,

Lou

[PAT303]

Lou,is there any chance we could get the Perth people together for a show and tell with a Land Rover Experience instructor?,count me in. Pat

[scarry]

I think that's hit the nail squarly on the head…

Everywhere else in the world Land Rover offers a free halfway training session at one the their Experience centres. You get to drive one "just like yours" regardless of which model you bought without taking your brand new prove and joy off road. This encourages even the biggest "know it all's" to take up the offer.

The biggest learning curve by a country mile has always been the Defender guys trading up from a 300Tdi or Td5…(I have to count myself in there as well). Everybody remains of the opinion that they know all there is to know about off road driving - that's until they're shown how to release the full potential from a Tdci Defender.

All I can say is that I've seen many a dropped jaw…

Cheers,

Lou

Um,not really,you should ask someone who has gone from a D1 or D2 to a D3/4.
A completely different animal,which needs a completely different driving style off road.There is actually no similarity at all between the early Disco's and the D3/4.

Sure there is a massive difference between the TDci and the earlier deefers,but i recon there is a much bigger difference between the early Disco's and the D3/4.
At least the deefer is basically the same vehicle,same live axles and coils,but now with a bit of electrikaly,which is the difference.And of course a different engine,gearbox.
The D3/4 is fully independently sprung,air suspension,and a whole new traction system to learn about,etc.

[Loubrey]

Agree 100% with you scarry, they are 1000 miles apart from the earlier Discos, but people sort of expect and anticipate that. Most people at the Experience Centres are new to the marque and they are just impressed from the start. Land Rover people sort of expect the massive steps that were taken, and if money wasn't an option my choice of kitted out touring vehicle would be a Disco 4 as well.

Defenders on the other hand look the same as they had since the early 90's and people are reluctant to and in some cases point blank refuse to believe believe newer can be better (this forum point and case :-) )…

A standard Tdci in trained hands behaves like a different model to an earlier standard Defender and it usually completely throws the sceptics.

Pat, I'll pm you on options but I would be keen to set it up as well.


Cheers,

Lou

[EastFreo]

Lou and Pat

Count me in if a Defender session becomes available.

Cheers

James