2010 RRS

[olbod]

Would 18" wheels fit on a 3.0ltr twin turbo diesel thingy do you think ?
Looking thru for sale ads they seem to have 19", bugger that.
Hate those stupid big bling wheels with rubbish rubber bands.

Ta.

[101RRS]

You would need to get GOE 18" wheels - standard D3/D4/RRS 18" wheels will not fit.

Garry

[olbod]

You would need to get GOE 18" wheels - standard D3/D4/RRS 18" wheels will not fit.

Garry


Okay thanks.
But I am not upto date with these alloy wheels.
What is a GOE 18" wheel and what is the difference from the standard thingy's ?

If I had me druthers I would druther have a suitable steel wheel built.
I dont like changing tyres on alloy wheels trackside.

[Redback]

Okay thanks.
But I am not upto date with these alloy wheels.
What is a GOE 18" wheel and what is the difference from the standard thingy's ?

If I had me druthers I would druther have a suitable steel wheel built.
I dont like changing tyres on alloy wheels trackside.

Custom made Racing rim for the Bowler offroad race 4WD, limited stock available now and not cheap either, probably looking at over $4000 with freight and tyres when you get fitted to the rims.

Baz.

[olbod]

Custom made Racing rim for the Bowler offroad race 4WD, limited stock available now and not cheap either, probably looking at over $4000 with freight and tyres when you get fitted to the rims.

Baz.

Crikey, blow that.
Truth is I wouldn't give two bob for any alloy wheel.

I think I need to check out steels and if able to be built before I buy a new fangled thingamyjig.

[101RRS]

What is a GOE 18" wheel and what is the difference from the standard thingy's ?

Green Oval Experience Land Rover training, Range Rover modifcation (http://www.greenovalexperience.com/#!18-inch-rims/cglk)

GOE is run by GGHAGGIS on AULRO.

These rims fit over the brakes where other 18" do not fit over the brakes.

[101RRS]

Crikey, blow that.
Truth is I wouldn't give two bob for any alloy wheel.

I think I need to check out steels and if able to be built before I buy a new fangled thingamyjig.

Maybe you need to move into the 21st century :) - there is nothing wrong with alloy rims - yes when damaged tend to be permanently damaged but are typically stronger than steel rims in the first place.

To get a steel rim made will not be cheap and most likely will have to be 19".

[Redback]

Crikey, blow that.
Truth is I wouldn't give two bob for any alloy wheel.

I think I need to check out steels and if able to be built before I buy a new fangled thingamyjig.

Too be honest, 19s are not that bad, if you're not doing any hardcore offroad, they'll be fine and with light truck construction being more available in 19s these days, it's even better.

To get steel rims to fit, the offset would be huge and besides steel rims are heavies and not as strong as allow rims, alloys can be repaired and it would have to be a pretty bad damage if couldn't be repaired, I would imagine with that amount of damage to be unrepairable, a steel rim would be in the same boat.

Don't be scared off by alloy rims in 19".

Baz.

[~Rich~]

Too be honest, 19s are not that bad, if you're not doing any hardcore offroad, they'll be fine and with light truck construction being more available in 19s these days, it's even better.

To get steel rims to fit, the offset would be huge and besides steel rims are heavies and not as strong as allow rims, alloys can be repaired and it would have to be a pretty bad damage if couldn't be repaired, I would imagine with that amount of damage to be unrepairable, a steel rim would be in the same boat.

Don't be scared off by alloy rims in 19".

Baz.

X2

Just have a look at a 19 x 8" rim and see how much of the rim is unsupported because of the large offset. Vehicle manufacturers try to centre brake rotors to the centre of the rim for a reason. For that reason only Alloy have the advantage.

I've had 3 x alloys repaired, 2 of which I thought would of been only suitable for the bin. In the hands of a professional they can be brought back to nearly as good as new.

[olbod]

Well of course I can only comment on what I have experienced myself.
I have never been off road with alloys.
My concern is not so much damage as being easy to change tyres and repair them and fit tubes etc in the wild.
Tyres are easy to change and repair on steels.
I have come across blokes in the past that had stuffed tyres and run out of spares. Each of them had no tyre patches or tubes and said they would not like to try to get a tyre off an alloy wheel. They were high and dry and needed help.
I travel on my own and not in convoy and like to bush bash as much as I can.
I have to be prepared.
There are countless posts on here about lack of suitable tyres for bling wheels and many posts about sidewall damage and wheel damage.
That woriies me.
The Bitch has alloy wheels and they do fine but if it was a bush basher I would want steels.
On the later stuff I would perhaps like to see calipers with three pistons and 16 or 17" wheels and tyres to suit all outback conditions.
Our old chariots cant last forever and a late model RRS would be nice as an all round daily.

[Graeme]

I have come across blokes in the past that had stuffed tyres and run out of spares. Each of them had no tyre patches or tubes and said they would not like to try to get a tyre off an alloy wheel.They weren't properly prepared for remote area trips - they should have practiced R&R'ing tyres and had the equipment, patches and tubes on hand. There's nothing to fear in changing a tyre on an alloy rim with appropriate equipment.

[olbod]

They weren't properly prepared for remote area trips - they should have practiced R&R'ing tyres and had the equipment, patches and tubes on hand. There's nothing to fear in changing a tyre on an alloy rim with appropriate equipment.


You're probably quite right.
I must admit I have never done it and it would be something I would need to learn.
My experience is with trucks and a 73 model Patrol split rims and of course lots of Landy 16" rims.
I have a hang up with these larger wheel sizes and a lack of good off road rubber.
Thinking about it I probably wouldn't change the wheels on The Bitch because it wears good size offroad rubber and I have a tyre repair kit on board anyway and a compressor and it has been years since I damaged a sidewall.
But 19 and 20", shudder. Suggests an anxiety attack.

[Redback]

You're probably quite right.
I must admit I have never done it and it would be something I would need to learn.
My experience is with trucks and a 73 model Patrol split rims and of course lots of Landy 16" rims.
I have a hang up with these larger wheel sizes and a lack of good off road rubber.
Thinking about it I probably wouldn't change the wheels on The Bitch because it wears good size offroad rubber and I have a tyre repair kit on board anyway and a compressor and it has been years since I damaged a sidewall.
But 19 and 20", shudder. Suggests an anxiety attack.

The hardest part to changing Land Rover alloys is breaking the bead, because the LR alloys have built in beadlocks, you'll need a beadbreaker, from either Tyreplyers or R&R Beadbreaker, you can practise on your RR P38a, they are hard to break the bead on also, try breaking the bead as you would with a steel rim, then get back to us;)

Baz.

[zilch]

Olbod i have 19 inch rims on my MY10 3 litre oil burning sport, it runs General Grabber AT's. It completed a trip up to Cape York, did sections of the Old Telegraph track, Lakefield NP, Jardine River NP, the PDR, I was slightly worried about the profile 255/50/R19, but the general grabber thick tread makes it look a wee bit bigger in profile.

The tyres performed both on and off the tarmac perfectly, not an issue.. What 19" rims are actually fitted, i have the "Off Road Alloys" which were actually the pre facelift standard ones :) until LR saw a marketing gimmick

[olbod]

The hardest part to changing Land Rover alloys is breaking the bead, because the LR alloys have built in beadlocks, you'll need a beadbreaker, from either Tyreplyers or R&R Beadbreaker, you can practise on your RR P38a, they are hard to break the bead on also, try breaking the bead as you would with a steel rim, then get back to us;)

Baz.


Baz, I might invest in a beadbreaker anyway as The Bitch will be due for new tyres soon.
I could get 4 fitted and I could play with fitting the 5th spare for practise.
Anyone got experience with any particular brand ?

Zilch, that is a good recommendation for general grabbers, thanks.

What I might do is check out the earlier RRS say 2009 with the 2.7 donk,
I have a feeling that they had 18" wheels.
I am not sure if the later models had the 2.7 and 18's.
I will check them out on car sales or the used car thingy.

[101RRS]

What I might do is check out the earlier RRS say 2009 with the 2.7 donk,
I have a feeling that they had 18" wheels.
I am not sure if the later models had the 2.7 and 18's.


The pre-facelift versions of the RRS (prior to about Apr 2009) had the 2.7 TDV6 (or the TDV8). The post facelifts were 3.0 TDV6s with a few TDV8s thrown in early in the piece. These later versions are 19" or larger rims as standard.

Standard wheels for these 2.7s was 18" rims but 17" rims will also fit - D3 17" rims go well or BMW X5 17" rims with different wheel nuts also fit - there are a few threads on this for both the RRS and D3.

[TerryO]

I know a bloke with 17" King Steel rims on his D3 and decent sized tyres fitted, two of his rims are out of round and stuffed. There has been pics on here of Dynamic steel rims on D3's tearing the centres out so steel rims aren't always the answer to avoiding rim issues that some think.

Modern alloys are pretty good and few on here have had bad issues with their OEM alloys that I can remember.

[Graeme]

MY10 (build date Sept 09+) RRS had the 3.0 and 19" rims. 17" would fit MY09 and earlier when fitted with the 2.7.

[Redback]

Baz, I might invest in a beadbreaker anyway as The Bitch will be due for new tyres soon.
I could get 4 fitted and I could play with fitting the 5th spare for practise.
Anyone got experience with any particular brand ?

Zilch, that is a good recommendation for general grabbers, thanks.

What I might do is check out the earlier RRS say 2009 with the 2.7 donk,
I have a feeling that they had 18" wheels.
I am not sure if the later models had the 2.7 and 18's.
I will check them out on car sales or the used car thingy.

I had the R & R Beadbreaker and not being the LR alloy model(they have a LR specific Beadbreaker) bought it when I had a Ford Explorer and it worked well for it and any other steel rim, but the first time I used it on my D2 I bent it, then bent it again when trying to get a tyre off a mates RRS 20" alloys.

So if going for the R & R, you'll need to get the heavy duty model and specify you have alloy rims, it has an extra attachment for alloys.

I think the tyreplyers would be to hard to use, you need a lot of brute force to use them, whereas the R & R is a winding type device.

Here ya go, the R&R alloy rim beadbreaker demo
R&R Beadbreaker & Tyre Refitting Tool Hub adapter for aluminium rims with no off set - YouTube

[olbod]

Yep, 2009 it is.
Even better that they can be fitted with 17" goodies.
I dont mind the thought of running 17' alloy's with AT rubber.
I have just checked out the R&R beadbraker thingy's on youtube.
Downloaded two clips and converted it to dvd as a keeper.
Easy as eh, if you are careful.

While we are here, is there a Nanacom or similar diagnostic tool to tune into these models ?

First have to get The Bitch up to scratch or it would never get done.
Alot left to do to Me Disco but it is a project now and I will just use it to play on shorter trips around Qld.

Ta.

[olbod]

Thanks Redback, you posted that interesting stuff while I was typing.
Had already made up my mind to purchase the R&R because of the wind up
doer. Easy.
I would likely only use it for 16,17 or 18's unless I came across someone in trouble on the road.

What fun i'm lookin forward too.

[zilch]

What I might do is check out the earlier RRS say 2009 with the 2.7 donk,
I have a feeling that they had 18" wheels.
I am not sure if the later models had the 2.7 and 18's.
I will check them out on car sales or the used car thingy.

had a MY06 2.7 Oil burning Sport until i traded up to the MY10, it was fitted with 18" rims, well apart from the spare which when we came to change was a 19" rim, so best check to see if LR dealership did its delivery duties all those years ago..

[Graeme]

I have my sights set on a Tyre Jaws bead breaker.

[dog]

18inch GOE with BFG atr on my 2010 rrs

[olbod]

18inch GOE with BFG atr on my 2010 rrs

That is interesting, mate.
Where did you get the 18" GOE's from and dare I ask how much ?

Ta.

[dog]

From Gordon in WA can't remember cost but was over $2k for 4

[jonesy63]

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/208206-2010-rrs.html#post2250011 :p :D

[olbod]

From Gordon in WA can't remember cost but was over $2k for 4


Thank you.

[101RRS]

Green Oval Experience Land Rover training, Range Rover modifcation (http://www.greenovalexperience.com/#!18-inch-rims/cglk)

GOE is run by GGHAGGIS on AULRO.

These rims fit over the brakes where other 18" do not fit over the brakes.


That is interesting, mate.
Where did you get the 18" GOE's from and dare I ask how much ?

Ta.


If you care to look at the link I put up early in this thread you will see all - supplier, cost everything.

[Graeme]

... for 4I had always considered that 5 or 6 would be needed but with 265/60-18 LT tyres on the 4, a spare 18" carcase plus tubes and patches and one of the slightly more rugged 255/55-19 (Pirelli ATR or Zeon LTZ) as the spare, 4 would suffice even though the 18" are slightly larger than the 19".