View Full Version : Engine swap, what else to replace ?
TheTree
2nd November 2014, 09:42 AM
Hi
I am getting ready to swap my engine for a good second hand unit and was wondering what else I should look at and/or replace while I have the engine out
The flexplate has been mentioned but I was wondering if there was anything else which should be replaced ?
Thanks
Steve
davidsonsm
2nd November 2014, 12:42 PM
Oil pump. Water pump. Camshaft/lifters. Starter motor. Injectors. Spark plugs and leads. Belt. Hoses. Timing chain and gear. Work the heads. Seals and gaskets. Just a few suggestions to ponder.
TheTree
2nd November 2014, 12:48 PM
Oil pump. Water pump. Camshaft/lifters. Starter motor. Injectors. Spark plugs and leads. Belt. Hoses. Timing chain and gear. Work the heads. Seals and gaskets. Just a few suggestions to ponder.
Hi Mate
I am getting an entire long motor with less than 60K on it, so all that stuff is good as far as I know
Regards
Steve
davidsonsm
2nd November 2014, 01:17 PM
Then I wouldn't open it. Just do the exterior stuff. The dressings.
finallyrangie
2nd November 2014, 05:26 PM
Rear main seal if you are there anyway
benji
3rd November 2014, 04:33 PM
Would it be a good time to run aux wires through the fire wall for future stuff? Just to add to your list. ..:rolleyes:
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TheTree
24th November 2014, 07:17 PM
Well next weekend is engine swap time
Rupert has done the rear main oil seal and oil pump o-rings
I am
Replacing the engine mounts
Replacing the heat shields with ones made from ACL Heat Shield
http://www.acl.com.au/web/aclwebsite.nsf/e15e3704aa49fd6dca2568e0000e316c/2fc766104cd05789ca2570ee001ccb2d?OpenDocument
Thinking of getting the exhaust manifolds ceramic coated
Apart from that the usual cleanup etc
This is how it arrived :)
I should add that it is pretty standard except that it has shortened ram tubes (intake trumpets) which apparently provide a bit better acceleration
Steve
Keithy P38
24th November 2014, 11:27 PM
My lessons/learnings over the years when pulling a motor out is to replace anything that bolts to the motor. Didn't matter if it's done 10,000km or a million! Things that are a pain in the proverbial to get at with motor/box in should be done.
Crank and cam sensors
Coil packs
All gaskets except head gaskets (unless you're keen)
Plugs and leads
Water pump
All new hoses (again, doesn't matter how many k's, at least you'll have good spares)
Welch plugs
Flex plate and torque converter
Starter motor
I like the idea that you want to ceramic coat the exhaust manifolds - I'd use the time to do it as we all know how darn hot these engine bays are. I'd do it even if it took a week and I had to hire a Getz! I'd even take the time to try and re-home the coil packs to make life easier on them and also your hands.
Perhaps even just a general degrease of the engine bay with a pressure washer?
Cheers
Keithy
TheTree
25th November 2014, 09:20 AM
Keithy
Good points, the motor was reconditioend about 60K ago so I am not looking at the heads etc
Crank and cam sensors - pretty new
Coil packs - new and easy to replace on GEMS ( i can do it in 20 mins now)
All gaskets except head gaskets (unless you're keen) - all been done
Plugs and leads - newish leads on my old motor going on
Water pump - it seems fine
All new hoses (again, doesn't matter how many k's, at least you'll have good spares) - yes some of those going on
Welch plugs - been done
Flex plate and torque converter - all look pretty good
Starter motor - not sure on this one!
Thanks a heap mate :D
Steve
TheTree
30th November 2014, 08:46 AM
A massive day yesterday, got the old motor out with a fair bit of effort
The :censored: bellhousing bolts were super tight (def more than 33ft/lb) and of course the most difficult to get to was the worst! Finished up having to remove the engine mounts, which involved removing a heat shield on the drivers side, so we could drop the motor down a little and get at that last bolt from the top
Fitted new heat shields and firewall insulation and pressure washed the engine bay
A couple of bits left to transfer from the old motor and in the replacement goes!
Steve
davidsonsm
30th November 2014, 10:47 AM
Sounds like a great learning experience. Hopefully you got some enjoyment and a sense of achievement from it. As lo ing as you're not rushed, it can be enjoyable.
TheTree
1st December 2014, 07:36 AM
Quite a marathon, about 14 hours all up including fitting the new heat shields and transferring all the ancillaries from the old motor to the new.
It's in and running nicely. The only issue is a light ticking sound which sounds like a tappet but is coming from underneath, we suspect the starter motor perhaps
One good tip Rupert gave me was to put a 4" to 6" long piece of threaded rod into the front hole of the small round cover plate on the bellhousing, this stops the torque convertor moving forward and falling out when you remove the motor.
Steve
TheTree
1st December 2014, 09:35 AM
Engine bay cleaned up and heat shields fitted :cool:
Steve
mtb_gary
1st December 2014, 11:26 AM
I wish mine looked that clean! Well done for the persistence.
Gary
davidsonsm
1st December 2014, 01:19 PM
Steve, great result. And what a relief to have her back on the road again - assuming she is. Sounds like hard work. Did you get some help?
daf11e
1st December 2014, 02:39 PM
Good luck from now on steve, you've had your share of bad.:censored:.everything is crossed for you!
TheTree
1st December 2014, 09:09 PM
Thanks all
I can report that a reconditioned engine performs better than a tired one regardless of whether it is GEMS orBosch :twisted:
Steve
TheTree
2nd December 2014, 08:32 AM
Steve, great result. And what a relief to have her back on the road again - assuming she is. Sounds like hard work. Did you get some help?
I did have help from a mechanic mate of mine, doing it by myself would have been a double marathon :eek:
Steve
davidsonsm
2nd December 2014, 08:40 AM
Great to have mates like that. What's next on your list? Hopefully the list is thinning.
TheTree
2nd December 2014, 09:02 AM
Great to have mates like that. What's next on your list? Hopefully the list is thinning.
Mate the list is getting smaller for sure!
Some work on dual battery and an EAS bypass kit is next i reckon:p
Steve
mtb_gary
5th December 2014, 09:03 AM
Good work Steve. No doubt a relief to be back on the road. A few weeks from now it will all seem like ancient history, enjoy the driving :D
Gary
TheTree
9th December 2014, 08:36 AM
Just a couple of pics, one of the "Calloway style" shortened intake trumpets and one of the new engine on the way in :p
Steve
davidsonsm
9th December 2014, 09:01 AM
And how is she running Steve? Hopefully very nicely. May joy abound.
TheTree
9th December 2014, 10:04 AM
And how is she running Steve? Hopefully very nicely. May joy abound.
Thanks mate !
Running very nicely except I think i have an exhaust leak in the the RH manifold :mad:
Steve
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