Price for Series IIa SWB

[damiane]

I posted this originally in Introductions but a Moderator helpfully suggested I repost it here in the Series 2/3 Section. I have sortta decided to get myself a proper 4WD, namely a Ser IIa SWB. In preparation for such a step I am joining this forum. Lurking around here has shown me what a committed bunch of lunatics I will be joining (In the nicest possible sense of course.) I also anticipate learning a great deal from the forum residents about my chosen ride. All I have to do is find one I want.

In my own defence I am not a complete NOOB however. I previously (i.e. mid to late 70's) owned a S/H Ser IIa SWB followed some years later by a new III SWB which was turbocharged (would you believe!). It went like the clappers until it didn't. It was stolen shortly after I had finished fitting out the tub for extended camping. :mad: They even took my tool box :censored:

I have a friend of long standing who currently owns a 1971 Ser IIa SWB petrol. It is not "restored" but it is "intact" albeit showing what you would expect in wear and tear for a 43 year old Landy. It's had work on brakes and transfer case done in recent years. It looks a bit tired under the bonnet and in the cabin and needs muffler and probably exhaust. It is registered. In point of fact it is precisely what I have been looking for to carry my camera and camping gear back into the bush and potter about in my imminent retirement.

So I have a question. What is a fair price? He has said research and then discount it but our friendship is worth more than dollars. I have been unable to find really comparable examples on carsales, trovit, gumtree, etc. They either are incomplete junked vehicles awaiting restoration, full-on stripped and rebuilt restorations, or tricked up restorations with "new" Holden or Isuzu motor installations. I want to pay "the right" price.

I drove it a couple of years back. Just a short trip. Everything seemed okay. I haven't had a recent drive but I have no hesitation in accepting that everything is "okay".

Member's thought would be greatly appreciated.

[Gerokent]

A big plus, I think, is that it is still registered. Takes a lot of hassle away.
As to the worth of it, compare with what you find on Gumtree and others, but it comes down to what it is worth to you. There's always going to be repairs and ongoing expenditure to cater for ;)
Good luck

[debruiser]

I'll 2nd Gerokent. Find some stuff on slumtree and other sites, then sort of try and pick a fair middle ground if you can't find an exact comparison.

Maybe there is someone on here from Melbourne that could go and have a look/drive for you and could offer an unbiased opinion? There seems to be lots of people on here from that area.

These trucks are old and so prices vary greatly as well as condition. I know how you feel with the not upsetting your friend with a low offer. For us to guess prices is not fair either. Remember we can only see what you have said - no photos no personal experience of the car; so that makes it harder too.

Best of luck with your search.

[russellrovers]

I posted this originally in Introductions but a Moderator helpfully suggested I repost it here in the Series 2/3 Section. I have sortta decided to get myself a proper 4WD, namely a Ser IIa SWB. In preparation for such a step I am joining this forum. Lurking around here has shown me what a committed bunch of lunatics I will be joining (In the nicest possible sense of course.) I also anticipate learning a great deal from the forum residents about my chosen ride. All I have to do is find one I want.

In my own defence I am not a complete NOOB however. I previously (i.e. mid to late 70's) owned a S/H Ser IIa SWB followed some years later by a new III SWB which was turbocharged (would you believe!). It went like the clappers until it didn't. It was stolen shortly after I had finished fitting out the tub for extended camping. :mad: They even took my tool box :censored:

I have a friend of long standing who currently owns a 1971 Ser IIa SWB petrol. It is not "restored" but it is "intact" albeit showing what you would expect in wear and tear for a 43 year old Landy. It's had work on brakes and transfer case done in recent years. It looks a bit tired under the bonnet and in the cabin and needs muffler and probably exhaust. It is registered. In point of fact it is precisely what I have been looking for to carry my camera and camping gear back into the bush and potter about in my imminent retirement.

So I have a question. What is a fair price? He has said research and then discount it but our friendship is worth more than dollars. I have been unable to find really comparable examples on carsales, trovit, gumtree, etc. They either are incomplete junked vehicles awaiting restoration, full-on stripped and rebuilt restorations, or tricked up restorations with "new" Holden or Isuzu motor installations. I want to pay "the right" price.

I drove it a couple of years back. Just a short trip. Everything seemed okay. I haven't had a recent drive but I have no hesitation in accepting that everything is "okay".

Member's thought would be greatly appreciated.i have a1961 s2 all original top condition factory rear pto and govener will need brakes to renew jim

[harry]

well they didn't give you a $ answer, so I will.
I found mine, a s2a shorty station wagon with safari roof, on gumtree and paid 3 grand, but as the rego was about to run out and it was a bit complicated, it cost me about 4 grand.
the previous owner had done a lot of work on it and it was roadworthy'
but, the paint work is shot on the base car, read fine patina, worn off to bare aluminium on bonnet and tops of all the other parts, bar tread tyres which didn't last two years.
but it is mine and I love it.
so you need to sort out how much you are prepared to spend if he doesn't like your offer, offer your mate 5 grand and see what he says, as the asking price has gone up from when I bought mine about two years ago.


pictures, it doesn't happen without piccies.

[Seriestwo]

Check the usual places for rust, does it blow smoke? Is there play in the steering and suspension? All these things effect the price. If it has rust and blows smoke then it would be worth around 2k if it is only cosmetically tired then it would be worth up to 4k.

Chris

[damiane]

I'll 2nd Gerokent. Find some stuff on slumtree and other sites, then sort of try and pick a fair middle ground if you can't find an exact comparison.

Maybe there is someone on here from Melbourne that could go and have a look/drive for you and could offer an unbiased opinion? There seems to be lots of people on here from that area.

These trucks are old and so prices vary greatly as well as condition. I know how you feel with the not upsetting your friend with a low offer. For us to guess prices is not fair either. Remember we can only see what you have said - no photos no personal experience of the car; so that makes it harder too.

Best of luck with your search.

Hadn't thought of that. Good idea debruiser.

Seeking Melbourne-based Ser IIa expert to have a look at said vehicle and give me the necessary unbiased opinion. Vehicle is down on Mornington Peninsula but I could ask my friend to let me bring it to you. Any volunteers?

thanks

Damian

[Ozdunc]

Sorry I wrote this last night but never hit post;)

I've got a 69 2a which I've owned for 3 years. It was still registered. For a week. There were many and varied things wrong with it, but nothing too drastic . Broken exhaust, knocking from the engine, bit of rust in the bulkhead, leaking fuel tank and filler pipe, but it drove well and had working brakes (with leaky reservoir) and new tyres. I paid $2000 for it, it subsequently turned out to have a rather holey chassis as well. So in hindsight I probably overpaid for it.
BUT...
It was worth every cent plus all the other cents I've subsequently spent on replacing and refurbing it.
Offer your mate the honourable amount midway between the needing a full resto and the fully restored pristine model

[incisor]

i wouldn't let my girl madge go for under 8k

not perfect but would cost you way more to get one up to that state imho

[debruiser]

i wouldn't let my girl madge go for under 8k

not perfect but would cost you way more to get one up to that state imho

I spent 2k on the car, 2k on the 200tdi, + rebuild axles, new seats, new wheels, lockers, wiring harness and repaint... budget would be over the 8k, so yes agreed Incisor.

[damiane]

i wouldn't let my girl madge go for under 8k

not perfect but would cost you way more to get one up to that state imho

Off topic but I wonder what it is about IIs and IIas that generate names - invariably female - invariably "old-fashioned - invariably warm and comforting - and starting with 'M'. My previous IIa we named Mabel. I have seen a number of M names since joining this forum. It seems quite a widespread affliction.:D

On topic: I am getting quite a range sofar. From about $2,000 up to $8,000 although, to be fair, I suspect your $8,000 is because you actually don't want to sell Madge because it would be like selling a family member; one you actually like.

Damian

[incisor]

you may be right... ;)

but that said

it's been my eperience that a 2k unit is going to cost you another 3k-5k to get to the stage where you can safely / reliably drive it a few hundred klms on trips on a regular basis...

then throw in some hard to get bits and .....

[Homestar]

Hadn't thought of that. Good idea debruiser.

Seeking Melbourne-based Ser IIa expert to have a look at said vehicle and give me the necessary unbiased opinion. Vehicle is down on Mornington Peninsula but I could ask my friend to let me bring it to you. Any volunteers?

thanks

Damian

Hi there, I can assist with looking at that vehicle if you like. PM me your number and I'll give you a call to discuss. I can get down to the Peninsular no dramas. Remember that even though it is registered, it will need a RWC once you buy it, and that could get expensive if a lot needs doing.

Price wise, I got a complete running series 3 needing a complete resto for $500. A runner with reg and a few issues needing attention from $1,500 up. A great, ready to drive example needing no work from $6,000 up. I would estimate the cost of parts alone to do a good ground up resto to be at least $6,000 to $8,000. My budget for the series 3 is higher than that, but that will have disk brakes, fully rebuilt everything and other goodies.

[gromit]

Hadn't thought of that. Good idea debruiser.

Seeking Melbourne-based Ser IIa expert to have a look at said vehicle and give me the necessary unbiased opinion. Vehicle is down on Mornington Peninsula but I could ask my friend to let me bring it to you. Any volunteers?

thanks

Damian

I'm not too far off the Peninsula.
Either drive it to Narre Warren, but please tell my wife that I'm not buying it or she'll kill me. Or I could possibly get to look at it after work one evening.



Colin

[Mathernet]

I bought mine in the last year. 2A soft top

Good
very original but meticulously maintained and mechanically A1. New brakes, low k's.

Bad
Poor paint and a hole in the rear cross member, doors on their way out.

$3.5k paid and I think I did ok. Had to be a SWB. Registered is not worth cent to me. Roadworthy on the other hand......

[damiane]

I bought mine in the last year. 2A soft top

Good
very original but meticulously maintained and mechanically A1. New brakes, low k's.

Bad
Poor paint and a hole in the rear cross member, doors on their way out.

$3.5k paid and I think I did ok. Had to be a SWB. Registered is not worth cent to me. Roadworthy on the other hand......

Mathernet,

interested in why you distinguish between registered and roadworthy. :confused: I thought getting one of these through registration would require more than a RWC provides and be more difficult to secure or have I got that completely wrong?

[Mathernet]

May be a misunderstanding. Mine was registered when I purchased but would not pass a roadworthy due to the rust in the rear x member.
Providing you have a roadworthy and the numbers check out, rego should be easy.

[Ozdunc]

I went through my receipts quickly last night and I would have spent another $5000 over the purchase price, but that included a rebuilt engine and a new canvas top with sticks.

i have blown my budget:wasntme: but luckily the Minister For War and Finance is happy with the results

[debruiser]

I went through my receipts quickly last night and I would have spent another $5000 over the purchase price, but that included a rebuilt engine and a new canvas top with sticks.

i have blown my budget:wasntme: but luckily the Minister For War and Finance is happy with the results

I just plan not to show my minister the small filing cabinet full of receipts :p

[The ho har's]

Price, that is a hard discussion. I paid $2,500 for my "zara" I know she is a series III, the only thing we did to the engine is Valve Guide seals. She was running, straight and reasonable condition when I bought her.

We have spend many dollars and hours to get her to the condition she is now, see sig pic.

My series 2a "Bessie" $400.00. She is a ground up rebuild, including the motor, and we don't know the state of the gearbox, so that is some comparison.
It all depends how much you want the little truck and how much money you have to spend.

Mrs hh:angel:

[harry]

Like incisor, once you get one of these, you tend to carry out improvements, for the betterment of the vehicle or personal titivating.
I have done some of both to mine and am still making what I think are lnprovements.
I don't think 10 grand would prise it from me, and our eldest son would fight you for it, as he has claimed it as part of his inheritance.

[slug_burner]

I would not part with more than the now common agreed value of $2.5k for a runner, $3.5k for one with a roadworthy sounds possible but not likely.

[keith73]

Ive bought two 88"s in the last few years the second one very recently.I paid about $1000 each for them.The first one i bought is a 61,it is in pretty good condition despite being sitting in the paddock for 20 odd years.So far i spent about $2500 on it and still need more money spent on it.
The second one is also in pretty good condition.I haven't really done much do it yet.

[jdobson]

I paid $2k for mine about three years ago. It was advertised on eBay and surprisingly I think there was only one other bidder. It came with 12 months registration so I think I got a pretty good deal. That said, it promptly blew the headgasket and I have poured more money than I care to calculate getting it into a regular driveable condition - key things it needed were new tyres, new cylinder head and replacement of just about every rubber part. On the positives it had straight bodywork that hadn't been chopped or bashed too badly, the chassis and bulkhead were spot on with no major rust or defects. I think the one you're interested in should be between $2 and 3.5k but you can expect to spend about the same to get it properly recommissioned and useable on a daily basis. You are unlikely to regret it though, I have had so much fun sorting mine out and tracking down replacement parts. All part of the fun!