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DrytheRain
6th November 2014, 10:39 PM
Hi All

My run of horrible luck continues.

I put my car into a local four-wheel drive accessories shop the other day to have a bull bar, steering guard, long range tank and tow bar fitted. I believed they had a decent reputation, but the outcome wasn't what I hoped for.

They ended up having the car for two full days (alarm bells ringing) and despite my asking if there were any problems, I was told all was well, it was just a little time consuming, although they told me they'd had to alter the brackets on the tank to fit the holes in the chassis. As far as I know, the tank bolts straight onto the chassis fore and aft through a couple of large brackets/flanges on the ends of the tank...

Anyway, I picked the car up at the end of day two and apart from a few greasy marks and hand prints on the exterior, everything looked okay on the face of it.

I drove home and en-route realised that there was grime smudged all over the front seat covers, including, as it transpires, a perfect print of someone's filthy mitt across the back of the passenger head restraint. Yes, they're intended to protect the seats from accidental damage and wear, but at $700 landed in Australia and three months old, the fact that this probably won't wash out is hard to swallow.

Once home, I set about wiping the greasy hand prints off the bull bar and discovered that there was drying paint on one end of the bar; I looked closer and realised it was dented, scraped and had been painted over. I presume this happened in transit or they dropped it in the workshop and probably accounts for why they had the car for two days. I wasn't impressed that they hadn't owned up to it.

I've also noted some faint scuffs and a couple of chips in the powder coat on the uprights, suggesting the bar has been laid on the workshop floor with nothing underneath it to protect the finish. As you'll all have worked out by now, I'm a bit of a perfectionist, but this is indicative of the level of care taken; that and the bar having been fitted off the square and rubbing the grille on one side.

I decided to have a closer look at everything else after making these discoveries. The steering guard has a couple of chunks of powder coat missing off the brackets, although it's hopefully plated in some way to avoid corrosion. Similarly they've rubbed the paint off the edges of a couple of openings on the rear crossmember. The tow bar and tank seem to be okay apart from a couple of minor scuffs, but the trailer electrics look like they were installed by Stevie Wonder!

When I ordered everything there was some debate over whether an ECU was needed for the trailer electrics and I advised them of the harness behind the right-hand taillights. However, Hayman Reese confirmed that an ECU was needed on the 110 and the staff at the shop obviously forgot about the harness. The result is wiring that is all over the place, with some of it stretched over the top of the fuel tank and other parts patched into the left-hand taillights and strung tightly, thanks to a few zip ties, across the rear left-hand wheel well, right in the line of fire from the rear tyre and immediately above the exhaust. The ECU is attached with double-sided tape to the left-hand chassis rail, right behind the rear spring hanger.

I took it back the next day and they've offered to 're-plate' the end of the bar and have it repainted/coated (although only the end section) and fix the trailer electrics. They said to let me know how I get on washing the seat covers and we'll go from there. Hopefully they get it right this time around, but it should have been right first time. There's even a bootprint on one of the rear mudflaps, where it's obviously been removed and just tossed on the workshop floor and trod on.

Maybe I'm overreacting, but I think that if you trust your car to someone for them to work on it, it's not unreasonable for to expect them to take care with it.

On top of all of that, I've still got a set of side rails, which were damaged in transit to WA, lying on the garage floor with the matter unresolved, and the tint still needs redoing after the bodge job that was done originally.

I apologise for this essay, which may have degenerated into a semi-coherent rant, but I'm absolutely sickened with the apparent lack of care, competence and customer service offered nowadays.

Actually, that's not fair, I picked up my Rijidij wheel carrier from the courier's depot today and although I haven't completely unpacked it yet, everything appears to be in perfect condition. Murray has been an absolute pleasure to deal with and he knows how to pack a parcel!

Landy Smurf
6th November 2014, 11:21 PM
I think it is fair enough o take it back and not be happy. After all you are paying them for the services.

Devans
7th November 2014, 03:18 AM
I'd be cracking skulls.

Not sure if this is allowed on the forums but are you able to let me know which business this is as I am looking to get some accessories for my 110 and don't want someone doing a **** job... :angrylock:

Homestar
7th November 2014, 05:38 AM
I'd be cracking skulls.

Not sure if this is allowed on the forums but are you able to let me know which business this is as I am looking to get some accessories for my 110 and don't want someone doing a **** job... :angrylock:

No, the company cannot be named here, but nothing is stopping you PM'ing Drytherain to ask where they got it done.

Loubrey
7th November 2014, 09:55 AM
DrytheRain,

Please send me a PM with the company name. I'm with the TeamW4 Land Rover club here in Perth (see my signature block) and I would certainly want to warn members of the issue.

On the flip-side, our members are pretty well connected with the various fitment centers and there might even possibly be some assistance with reparation.

Cheers,

Lou

Pickles2
7th November 2014, 10:56 AM
drytherain, that is ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE.
I wish you well in eventually getting everything sorted,....as it should've been, in the first place.
Pickles.

cripesamighty
7th November 2014, 03:40 PM
Damn, that sounds woeful. I would not be a happy camper! Good luck with getting it resolved.

loneranger
7th November 2014, 08:16 PM
If they don't come to the party you may need to contact Consumer Affairs or even go through the Small Claims Tribunal for any financial shortfalls.

After my experience with our Dmax I intend doing all the work on our Defender myself or using the correct trades to do the work rather than a 4WD shop. ie For any electrical work I can't do I'll go to an auto sparkie.

Are you SOR or NOR?

d2dave
7th November 2014, 09:52 PM
Actually, that's not fair, I picked up my Rijidij wheel carrier from the courier's depot today and although I haven't completely unpacked it yet, everything appears to be in perfect condition. Murray has been an absolute pleasure to deal with and he knows how to pack a parcel!

I know Murray well and this is no surprise. Anything he does is done well.

As for your dramas. Definitely unprofessional. You have every right to be ****ed off. Reading things like this makes me happy that I can do all my own and not have to trust my vehicle in the (lack of) care of others.

DrytheRain
9th November 2014, 05:28 PM
Thanks for the input and advice everyone. We'll see how things go. I washed my seat covers and I'm waiting for them to dry to see how they look.

loneranger, I'm on the south coast, so way, way SOR! I hope I haven't put too many members into panic mode with this thread, but rest assured that the work was not done in the Metro area. If anyone wants the name of the outfit so you can avoid them, just drop me a PM.

Cheers.

KG666
11th November 2014, 06:07 PM
Hope all is now resolved to your satisfaction. Hate it when people can't look after your things properly!

DrytheRain
13th November 2014, 08:06 PM
I took the car back and repairs were made. Before anything was done, I asked about their freight insurance and got the usual "nah mate, we have to jump through too many hoops to make a claim; we just pay to fix things ourselves" line.

Anyway, I got the car back that same day(!) and the trailer electrics have been redone and the ECU moved to inside the body mount by the fuel tank on the right-hand side.

As for the bar, well, the dent and scrapes had been repaired, as had the two chips out of the powder coat on the left-hand upright. However, the bar has picked up even more scuffs and scratches in the process, which I pointed out. Nothing was said from their end. The finish on the repaired areas also didn't appear to be a great match to the rest of the bar. They'd replaced the indicator/parking lights with new units, as the ones originally fitted were apparently not ADR approved and had been supplied in error.

I took the car home and gave it the usual once-over. Not only were the repaired areas on the bar finished off with matt black paint on a satin black bar, they've seen fit to respray almost the entire left-hand bumper section and the front of the left-hand upright. There's overspray on the top tube and on the top of the bumper section. Very messy and dependent on the light, very visible. Instead of replacing the wiring entirely for the new lights, their solution was to snip the wiring behind the bar, replace the lights and solder in plugs, which may or may not be waterproof. To top it off, there is now significant play in the steering around the straight ahead position, which makes me think they've upset the steering damper when they installed the steering guard. Speaking of the steering guard, the brackets are going to have to be recoated, because there's a big chunk of powder coat missing from the ends of one bracket and evidence of surface rust starting already.

On the upside the trailer electrics are a lot better, although I dread to think what I'll find behind the mud shield covering the left-hand taillights.

The grime had washed out of my seat covers, but despite following the washing instructions, the covers faded and seem to have shrunk a little. I'm not very impressed with those, but they're clean, so the shop won't assume any responsibility.

I visited a powder coater yesterday to ask about recoating the damaged side rails I have lying in the garage (damaged in transit cross-country). Unfortunately he'll need to see them to give an accurate quote. However, while I was there I also discussed the bar, which he agreed was in a pretty shocking state considering it was meant to be 'new'. He noted that the original powder coat is thin on some sections which will, in his opinion, begin to corrode in the short term. Unfortunately, he reckons I'd be looking at $6-700 to have it stripped back and redone. Happy days.

I then went back to the four-wheel drive shop and told them I still wasn't satisfied with the state of the bar. They said they'll speak to the manager and be in touch. Nothing so far.

I've booked the car into the dealer's workshop tomorrow so they can take a look at the steering. Hopefully that will be an easy fix.

Loubrey
14th November 2014, 08:58 AM
I visited a powder coater yesterday to ask about recoating the damaged side rails I have lying in the garage (damaged in transit cross-country). Unfortunately he'll need to see them to give an accurate quote. However, while I was there I also discussed the bar, which he agreed was in a pretty shocking state considering it was meant to be 'new'. He noted that the original powder coat is thin on some sections which will, in his opinion, begin to corrode in the short term. Unfortunately, he reckons I'd be looking at $6-700 to have it stripped back and redone. Happy days.



I know you are down south, but that powder coat quote sounds too high. I had a 4 year old bar with quite a bit of wear and tear blasted, chemically cleaned, primed and re-coated for $380 in Osborne Park, Perth.

Not really the point though, these guys don't realise that social media allows bad news stories like this to spread like wild fire and has potential to seriously damage a small to medium business...

Cheers,

Lou

chopper
15th November 2014, 08:19 AM
Who is Murray ?

Vern
15th November 2014, 08:31 AM
Rijidij on here

d2dave
15th November 2014, 12:58 PM
Who is Murray ?


Home - Rijidij Off Road (http://rijidijoffroad.bounce.com.au/)

And he makes the best rear wheel carrier for a defender that I have ever seen, amongst other things.

chopper
15th November 2014, 03:32 PM
Thanks , thought it was another Murray ( from a different Muffa )

DrytheRain
16th November 2014, 02:31 PM
I know you are down south, but that powder coat quote sounds too high. I had a 4 year old bar with quite a bit of wear and tear blasted, chemically cleaned, primed and re-coated for $380 in Osborne Park, Perth.

Not really the point though, these guys don't realise that social media allows bad news stories like this to spread like wild fire and has potential to seriously damage a small to medium business...

Cheers,

Lou

I thought as much Lou, but as far as I know we have only one powder coater in town. Getting work like that done in Perth isn't the easiest option for me.

I'm hoping that if he gets the work of recoating the bull bar, side rails, steering guard brackets and maybe the rear bumperettes, he'll offer me a decent package price.

As for the steering, the dealer couldn't find anything wrong; however, it dawned on me on the way back to work that I haven't looked at the tyre pressures since all that new gear was fitted. Obviously it didn't dawn on the dealer either, because I found the front tyres were at 28psi. They're now at 36 and that has sharpened things up quite considerably. The rears are at 46 and with an almost full tank of fuel the ride is fairly compliant. I think if I dropped anymore pressure out of them they'd bag out too much. However, I know that some members here run their tyres much softer.

I also noticed that they four-wheel drive shop have managed to take a nick out of the dash panel to the left of the centre stack. It's fairly small, but just another example of their carelessness.