5th brake hose...who knew?

[PeterH]

I changed my brake hoses today, they were the original ones, which would make them 14 years old.
I've read they should be changed every 6 years, so mine were way overdue.
It was a big task, the front ones were the hardest, requiring the inner guards to be removed. The brake bleeding process is something I'm not hoping to have to do again for a while, but it was all worth it, the brakes feel great now.
When I ordered the hoses from my very knowledgeable parts supplier, he mentioned there are 5 hoses on the P38, not 4.
I had never heard of this before, but sure enough, hidden up above the passenger side rear wheel well, is a short brake hose.
Was in a tough spot too, not an easy one to replace, but the original one on there was looking very old and past its best, something that could let go at the worst possible moment.
I've noticed P38 hose kits on ebay only having 4 hoses, so I'm not sure if this 5th hose is on all P38's or just the later models. (Mine is a 2001).
Anyway, something to be aware of if you are thinking of changing your hoses.
Cheers, Pete.

[Hoges]

A timely reminder! Also calliper seals ... I need a full day which I don't have....!

[poleonpom]

I have a 96 Gems with 5 hoses. When I got the replacements I thought 5 was a packing error, but not so.
Cheers Jonathan

[TheTree]

Anyone have a part number for that 5th hose?

I can't find it in MicroCat

Steve

[d2dave]

I changed my brake hoses today, they were the original ones, which would make them 14 years old.
I've read they should be changed every 6 years, so mine were way overdue.
Cheers, Pete.

There are many cars out there that would have hoses double this. My D1 is nearly 19 years old and still has the original hoses.

With all these cars out there you never hear of any brake failures due to burst hoses.

When I was active as a spanner it was common practice when a car was being serviced to check the hoses for cracking, deterioration, hardness etc.

Having said this, please don't take it he wrong way. I am not knocking what you have done, just passing comment.

[TheTree]

Doing a bit of reseaerch on this and it looks like the change was made at VA346794 and it looks like there are two short hoses one on each side ANR5916

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Steve

[Hammer H]

There are many cars out there that would have hoses double this. My D1 is nearly 19 years old and still has the original hoses.

With all these cars out there you never hear of any brake failures due to burst hoses.

When I was active as a spanner it was common practice when a car was being serviced to check the hoses for cracking, deterioration, hardness etc.

Having said this, please don't take it he wrong way. I am not knocking what you have done, just passing comment.


Im a Mechanic by trade although 25 years ago, I also never heard of a brake hose failure, until last year. My 07 tdv8 lhf hose split, then one year later (1 month ago) my rhf brake hose split. Both instances resulting in 0 brakes. Fortunately I was not moving fast either time. googled around and could only find one other instance.

[p38arover]

With all these cars out there you never hear of any brake failures due to burst hoses.

See http://www.aulro.com/afvb/l322-range-rover/208124-complete-loss-brakes-due-brake-hose-failure.html

[TheTree]

My attitude is to replace the hoses when I get around to it and keep the originals as spares as long as they look OK

Steve

[poleonpom]

I replaced mine because the rhf one split. Fortunately it happened in my drive but it gave me a big shock as 30 minutes earlier my wife and young daughter had been out in it shopping.

New brake pipes = cheap insurance

[PeterH]

Steve, you are correct, there are 2 short brake hoses, one on either side above the rear wheel wells, so it is 6 hoses in total.
I can confirm the part number being ANR5916 as you posted.
My curiosity got the better of me after reading your post, I got underneath and sure enough, there is another short hose on the other side.
I guess I'll soon be back underneath replacing that 6th one as well.
Good detective work!

[TheTree]

There is no question that brake hoses deteriorate over time and I agree that it is cheap insurance to change them !

Steve