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david7307
14th November 2014, 02:47 PM
Just had a rear hub replaced and thy say the brakes will need doing as well fairly soon, just been phoning around and prices for the disk (rotor) there is quite a lot of differences in price, what is a good make, and what is the ones to stay clear of
and what price range should thy be
Discovery 2 td5
simonmelb
14th November 2014, 03:35 PM
Cant go wrong with DBA rotors either plain or slotted (not drilled) and Bendix 4WD pads.
Avoid Chinese ebay!
david7307
14th November 2014, 05:17 PM
have been told Bendix pads only ones to have
and thanks for info about the rotors
iPom
15th November 2014, 07:40 AM
As Simon says...Bendix 4X4 pads..
Dave
twr7cx
15th November 2014, 10:38 AM
I'm not 100% sure on the Bendix 4x4 pads. I have them front and back in my D2a at the moment. I find their stopping power when cold to be terrible - which means that cold winter mornings like we get here in Tas they're extra bad. Once they've warmed up there is a significant improvement.
I realise that it's hard to have a pad that is good both cold and hot, as the heavy duty ones are designed to be effective hot due to the load and towing and no have brake fad. But, my other vehicle, a Pursuit ute, has Brembo 6 piston callipers that are designed for track days and a Mercedes Benz AMG OEM quality brake pad, it's brilliant when cold and hot, so it's definitely possible!
When my Bendix are done I'll try a different flavour. At the moment I'm leaning towards testing out EBC, they're passenger vehicle pads have always had a good rap, not familiar with their 4WD product though. DP61037 and DP61038 is the part number for their upgrade Greenstuff 6000 < Greenstuff Brake Pads (http://ebcbrakes.com/product/greenstuff-brake-pads/) > pad for D2's.
Maybe Ferodo Premiers < eCatalogue search results | Ferodo (http://www.ferodo.com/en-gb/pages/SearchResult.aspx'make=LAND%20ROVER&model=DISCOVERY%20(II)&body=Closed%20Off-Road%20Vehicle&litres=2.5_Diesel&myear=01/1999%20-%3E%2006/2004) > < Premier brake pads from Ferodo guarantee OE quality and braking expert | Ferodo (http://www.ferodo.com/en-gb/Products/Pads/Pages/Premier.aspx) > even. I'd rather a pad that pulls the vehicle up with confidence consistently, rather than a longer lasting pad. I'm happy to change pads more regularly, so perhaps a softer compound is what I need.
Anyways, since it was asked, that is my thoughts on it. What ever your do, stick with a big name brand at the minimum - TRW, Bendix, Brembo, Ferodo, ECB, etc. don't go for a home brand or no name cheapie - I would also avoid the intermediate brands often found on eBay like Disctech, Delphi, Borg & Beck, Transgold, Europad, adb (Australian Disc Brakes), Protex, Driveforce, RDA, Zircon and Mintex - brakes are probably the one area of the vehicle to never skimp out on - but at the same time, remember that spending more isn't necessarily better with brake pads as once the prices go right up your starting to get into track pads which are for a different purpose...
d2dave
15th November 2014, 11:48 PM
Cant go wrong with DBA rotors either plain or slotted (not drilled) and Bendix 4WD pads.
Avoid Chinese ebay!
I would be surprised if DBA weren't made in China these days.
CountP
16th November 2014, 12:15 AM
I bought discs from TRS for my D2. IIRC they were $120ish delivered. I spoke to them and he said he has sold loads of them without a problem. With the Bendix 4x4 pads I can't complain. They've done about 15000km.
On the other hand I fitted DBA slotted discs to my BA Falcon. They haven't lasted any longer than the cheaper RDA discs. In less than 15000km the vibration is back. I've been told I need to change my driving style. Next on my list to try is the Brembo discs but I think they are all coming out of China.
david7307
16th November 2014, 05:43 AM
I would be surprised if DBA weren't made in China these days.
i would agree with that statement
there is some very good stuff coming out of china ,
i will stick with brand name
on the other hand the farmer next door had a great wall and did 100000 in 3 years never had to put a spanner on it ,made in china
James P B
16th November 2014, 06:21 AM
i would agree with that statement
there is some very good stuff coming out of china ,
i will stick with brand name
on the other hand the farmer next door had a great wall and did 100000 in 3 years never had to put a spanner on it ,made in china
seems its the luck of the draw with chinese stuff - bloke i know bought one spent more time getting fixed than driven, after 12 months got rid of it and bought and hilux
Pedro_The_Swift
16th November 2014, 07:18 AM
anyone priced rotors from a dealer lately?
The last set I put on my green D2 were $$ comparable with anyone.
simonmelb
16th November 2014, 08:20 AM
I'm not 100% sure on the Bendix 4x4 pads. I have them front and back in my D2a at the moment. I find their stopping power when cold to be terrible
I have these as well - I'd agree they need a firmer pedal push and seem to work better when warm yes - especially compared to our Volvo S40 with OE pads that pulls up like an F1 in comparison to the D2.
Would be keen to hear of anyone who's D2 does pull up easily and see what Pads they've used.
worane
16th November 2014, 12:33 PM
I was having my TD5 serviced this week and asked the Mechanic why I had a poorer brake peddle on the first push and brilliant on any second push in a row.
He could not answer other than to tell me nearly all 1999 / 2002 discos had this same problem.
He went on th say he had pulled apart both early and later boosters and they are both identical. Go figure.
Not wanting to hijack this thread but anyone here got a clue why?
twr7cx
16th November 2014, 02:08 PM
I would be surprised if DBA weren't made in China these days.
It's not about where they're made but more the materials used. Some items can be made in the same factory for two different brands and the quality of the materials input can be the key difference in the quality of the item in its use.
There is nothing wrong with made in China.
But don't buy the generic cheap copy stuff as that's where the bad reputation comes from.
Jazzman
18th November 2014, 01:02 PM
I was having my TD5 serviced this week and asked the Mechanic why I had a poorer brake peddle on the first push and brilliant on any second push in a row.
He could not answer other than to tell me nearly all 1999 / 2002 discos had this same problem.
He went on th say he had pulled apart both early and later boosters and they are both identical. Go figure.
Not wanting to hijack this thread but anyone here got a clue why?
Normally this is a fluid problem. Have you tried completely flushing the system with new fluid and bleeding? I do not have any issues with the brakes on my 2004 D2a. However I did have the same issue you describe on my Range Rover Classic, a D1 may have a similar problem. I'd guess your mechanic is confusing the 2 discos.
Jazzman
18th November 2014, 01:10 PM
I've had Bendix and RDA (not to be confused with DBA) on my BA falcon. It was terrible. To fix it i went with Territory calipers and Territory sized DBA rotors. Much improvement. Not long after i replaced the Bendix pads with factory Ford pads at an extreme cost, but the brakes were much better. All issues resolved.
From this I've decided I will probably always use the factory pads in any car. I've just purchased front rotors from Roverlord and they are great combined with Landrover pads.
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