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alittlebitconcerned
23rd November 2014, 06:52 PM
I'm in the middle of a touring off road camper trailer build.
It will eventually be our base going around Australia but that will be in a few years. Till then it will be used for weekends away and the occasional week or so here and there. The trailer will be running the same wheels as the Puma 110 and in the interest of keeping the trailer weight down I'm wanting to carry just one spare to cover both the car and trailer.

What would you do?

Gary S11
23rd November 2014, 06:56 PM
Murphy being a mongrel. I'd carry two

AnD3rew
23rd November 2014, 06:57 PM
I'd put the extra spare on, in many ways that's the perfect set up, camper trailer with same wheels as the tow car and a spare on the car and spare on the trailer.

bee utey
23rd November 2014, 06:58 PM
Carry a compressor and tubeless tyre plugs. If a situation gets dire you can abandon the camper somewhere and steal both wheels to get to civilisation and repairs.

Slunnie
23rd November 2014, 07:03 PM
I'd carry a spare on the trailer also. You really wont gain much by not carrying it.

Roverlord off road spares
23rd November 2014, 07:16 PM
Also What happens if you want to tow the trailer with another vehicle and get a flat, then you won't have a spare to match.

alittlebitconcerned
23rd November 2014, 07:16 PM
1) Yes, it's all about that ***** Murphy isnt it.
2) I agree two spares for wheels and tyres all the same, would be the perfect setup; it's just that bit more weight that bugs me.
3) great minds think alike. I already carry the puncture kit and compressor.
4) i agree that it would not add too much to the weight but I'm challenging myself to make an ultra light weight (comparatively speaking) fully stocked trailer and keep it under well under 750kgs

alittlebitconcerned
23rd November 2014, 07:21 PM
Also What happens if you want to tow the trailer with another vehicle and get a flat, then you won't have a spare to match.

I have no plans to use another vehicle to tow but I also didnt think of the potential need. Good point.

bob10
23rd November 2014, 07:47 PM
I'm in the middle of a touring off road camper trailer build.
It will eventually be our base going around Australia but that will be in a few years. Till then it will be used for weekends away and the occasional week or so here and there. The trailer will be running the same wheels as the Puma 110 and in the interest of keeping the trailer weight down I'm wanting to carry just one spare to cover both the car and trailer.

What would you do?


Bad move. False economy. Too late, a long way from anywhere, to find you pulled the long rein. Me? a spare for both. If you are prepared to leave the trailer behind, to keep the car going, make sure you have the proper repair stuff. Not a good option for me. You could get all the way round, no problem. OR not. You don't want to take that chance . Bob

Hay Ewe
23rd November 2014, 07:52 PM
one for the tow car
one for the trailer
Minimum.

If it is a 4 wheel trailer - two spares on the trailer - three all up.
If you put the spares in a good place, it will balance the trailer and so you wont notice the weight when maneuvering it.

roverrescue
23rd November 2014, 08:05 PM
6 on the ground one spare
you prang a tyre swinging wide to get around a tree on a winding bush track (this happens with trailers)

Now you have 6 on the ground and your spare has a gash in the side wall no plugs or patch will help that.

Sure you can just make it to the next town ... ... ... or not :)

The feeling of having a second spare is priceless when you are say two days drive from a service location and the above happens. Perhaps consider carrying just a spare carcass on the trailer, you could stuff the inside to maximise space and save on weight.

Two spares when towing is kinda important in my mind

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BigJon
23rd November 2014, 08:41 PM
I carry a spare on my 8x5 tandem that never even sees dirt roads. No way I wouldn't have one for a camper trailer.

numpty
24th November 2014, 07:09 AM
one for the tow car
one for the trailer
Minimum.

If it is a 4 wheel trailer - two spares on the trailer - three all up.

I agree with the first as I have included a spare on my new trailer. I also carry spares on both my other trailers but have never used them.

Intrigued by the 2 spares for a tandem trailer but only 1 for the vehicle? The car has 4 wheels too;)

alittlebitconcerned
24th November 2014, 07:52 AM
Many good points here have helped my decision.
Trailer build will now include a spare. 👍
Thanks people.

Tombie
24th November 2014, 10:42 AM
I'm so conscious of this ongoing issue - I carry a spare tyre around my midsection... :angel:

winaje
24th November 2014, 10:50 AM
I'm in the middle of a touring off road camper trailer build.
It will eventually be our base going around Australia but that will be in a few years. Till then it will be used for weekends away and the occasional week or so here and there. The trailer will be running the same wheels as the Puma 110 and in the interest of keeping the trailer weight down I'm wanting to carry just one spare to cover both the car and trailer.

What would you do?

I'm interested in seeing pics and plans of the trailer...

DiscoMick
24th November 2014, 11:42 AM
You can always chuck the spare on the roof rack of the vehicle if you want to keep the trailer light.
Think about the effect of not having a spare on the balance of the trailer too. Your towball will be lighter, which could be a bad thing.

Roverlord off road spares
24th November 2014, 11:45 AM
I'm so conscious of this ongoing issue - I carry a spare tyre around my midsection... :angel:
I have that same problem, and some times it deflates via my exhaust:angel:

Alex 110
24th November 2014, 12:08 PM
4 tyres for the trailer (2 on the ground 2 spares) with mud tyres. 5 for the car, all terrains. That way if you hit the sloppy stuff you can just swap the wheels over

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DiscoMick
24th November 2014, 12:28 PM
Fortunately, my mid-section spare is only a spacesaver.

alittlebitconcerned
24th November 2014, 03:26 PM
I'm interested in seeing pics and plans of the trailer...


I will get to that eventually but first I'll have to get something worth photgraphing. Soon I hope.

DiscoKym
29th December 2014, 06:33 PM
My trailer has different wheels to the Disco.

My camper carries two spare wheels, second spare for the car and one for the trailer.

briza
30th December 2014, 03:45 AM
I'm in the middle of a touring off road camper trailer build.
It will eventually be our base going around Australia but that will be in a few years. Till then it will be used for weekends away and the occasional week or so here and there. The trailer will be running the same wheels as the Puma 110 and in the interest of keeping the trailer weight down I'm wanting to carry just one spare to cover both the car and trailer.

What would you do?



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Outback
3rd January 2015, 05:18 AM
Ive been drawing up plans to use a Military 3/4 ton trailer as the base of my Camp Trailer when we visit Australia. Those plans include two spares mounted on the trailer. Same rims and tires as on the Perentie/trailer (tubeless steel wheels with 255/85R16 Toyo MTs). I will have 3 spares all together. Going anywhere off road with no spare is begging for trouble. Murphy is a bitch and will take advantage of your ignorance every time she can. Remember this. Proper Prior Planning Prevents **** Poor Performance. (the 7 Ps). A spare is worth its weight in Gold when you need it.


On another note. When I worked in Nevada for Nevada Bell I had a 3/4 ton work truck. They had installed a new utility bed on her. I checked the spare to make sure it had air in it and was as good as new. Well going through the sage brush a few months later on a very remote track (no one around for 200 miles) I had a sidewall puncture. A real bad tear. No problem. Pull all the kit out to lower the tire and change the flat. I then discovered that when they installed the utility bed they had covered the hole you access to lower the rear tire. SO plan B. Plug the tire and re inflate. 10 plugs later I was headed back down the road. about 100 miles from town all the plugs came out in a single blob flew up and forward then flew back into my windshield. Tire lost all air instantly. Again jacked up the tire and used some new plugs and some old ones (glad the plugs didn't fly out off the road) Again back on the road. Repeated whole process again. many hours later I come crawling into town. Not a very pleasant day to say the least. MY POINT IS going into the bush with no spare and or even one spare and a plug kit is not a good idea. Most likely you wont have a problem. BUT when you do Its a real problem. If you have your family with you its down right dangerous. A plugged tire is not a safe tire. If you put a nail in it then no big deal. But if you tear the side wall or what ever then you really need a real spare tire to be safe.

mick88
3rd January 2015, 06:30 AM
Along with a pump and all the necessary repair gear I also carry an assortment of large self tappers. They are great for a quick roadside fix if you have picked up a nail/piece of wire or similar through the tire tread. When you camp that night or get into town you can do the correct repair that is needed.
Cheers, Mick.

Hoges
3rd January 2015, 03:19 PM
Two spares on the trailer, plus one on the roof of the P38. All P38/D2 rims so totally interchangeable...

Pedro_The_Swift
9th January 2015, 09:14 AM
I will get to that eventually but first I'll have to get something worth photgraphing. Soon I hope.
hows that photograph coming along?

no pressure;)---:Rolling:

alittlebitconcerned
11th January 2015, 03:07 PM
hows that photograph coming along?

no pressure;)---:Rolling:

Still nothing worth posting!
I swapped chassis platforms yesterday when I bough a Cooks army trailer to use instaed of the no5 I already have. Comes with handbreak, disc brakes, stabilizing legs, same track width as the 110, and tows much much better.

Having changed platforms I now have to do some redesigning so photo's wont be for awhile.

Rok_Dr
11th January 2015, 03:48 PM
Two spares on the trailer, plus one on the roof of the P38. All P38/D2 rims so totally interchangeable...

And also VE/VF Commodore rims, which have the same stud pattern/size/thread.

I finally got my trailer onto D2 rims to match Charlie. Carry a spare on the trailer, one on the car and have a third which can go on either. Just have to make sure I carry a spare set of steel rim wheel nuts for for fitting the steel rims to Charlie as the alloy wheel nuts do not have the tapered face.

Cheers

Steve