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d2dave
25th November 2014, 04:12 PM
Phillip Hughes is in hospital fighting for his life. What a tragic thing to happen.

He was hit with a head high ball whilst wearing a helmet.

This is a one in a million freak accident. He is having neurosurgery as I type this. I feel that the end result of this is not going to be good, but I really hope I am wrong.

My thoughts are with his family, some of who were at the game watching.

incisor
25th November 2014, 04:20 PM
yeah

when i saw the footage (don't put it on here please) i knew it wasn't going to end well...

thoughts are with him and his family.

i hope the bowler doesn't take it to heart ....

p38arover
25th November 2014, 04:28 PM
Shades of Bodyline!

Eevo
25th November 2014, 04:41 PM
the footage didnt look good.
pretty sure he wasnt breathing on the crease and CPR was started too late.

d2dave
25th November 2014, 04:43 PM
Shades of Bodyline!

The freak thing here is that for years cricketers faced short balls and did get hit in the head, coping all sorts of injuries, but nothing like this.

Helmets were introduced for safety and you would never expect anything like this.

Many a batsmen has copped a nasty ball since helmets were introduced and in most cases can play on, after getting a replacement.

I might be wrong but I don't recall anything this bad, with or with out a helmet.

Ausfree
25th November 2014, 05:38 PM
Yeah, it looked nasty and I fear for the outcome here!!!:(

Homestar
25th November 2014, 07:42 PM
Terrible accident. I feel for his family. Hope he comes out of this ok, but geez, it doesn't look good...:(

digger
26th November 2014, 01:07 AM
Looks to me he was hit just under helmet ar back , possibly on neck,

This was a mistimed hook shot so not really on the bowler.

CPR on the boundry, not even making the rooms, is obviously a very serious situation

Thouhts and prayers with his family

Discofever
27th November 2014, 02:55 PM
Just announced that Phil passed away.
Absolutely devastated. I feel physically sick.

Ausfree
27th November 2014, 02:57 PM
Yeah just saw the news on TV, what a terrible day for cricket. RIP Phillip hughes.:(:(

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/phillip-hughes-dead-australian-cricketer-dies-after-bouncer-at-scg-20141127-11vcpt.html

Basil135
27th November 2014, 02:58 PM
Just announced that Phil passed away.
Absolutely devastated. I feel physically sick.

Just saw that too.

Sad, sad news indeed.

disco man
27th November 2014, 03:15 PM
A very sad day for Australian sport,he was a very talented young man and he will be missed:( I feel for his family and for Abbott who bowled the fateful ball. I hope CA has some programs in place to offer support for all that need it. What a bloody tragic accident.

Disco Muppet
27th November 2014, 03:34 PM
Such a terrible tragedy. :(

d2dave
27th November 2014, 03:50 PM
How tragic. I am lost for words. Jeez I feel for Abbott as well. Although he is totally blameless he would be taking it hard.

Would not be surprised if it ended his career.

whlump
27th November 2014, 03:54 PM
Devastating

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crash
27th November 2014, 03:55 PM
How tragic. I am lost for words. Jeez I feel for Abbott as well. Although he is totally blameless he would be taking it hard.

Would not be surprised if it ended his career.
I feel the same and can not imagine what Abbott is going through.

nat_89
27th November 2014, 04:09 PM
A very sad day for Australian sport,he was a very talented young man and he will be missed:( I feel for his family and for Abbott who bowled the fateful ball. I hope CA has some programs in place to offer support for all that need it. What a bloody tragic accident.

Along with everyone else my thoughts exactly that poor bloke just it would be the hardest thing you could imagine it really would be, i dont even think words could describe it!! RIP definitely a sad day and certainly a great loss.

disco man
27th November 2014, 04:56 PM
Now we need to make sure this CANNOT happen again. A major redesign of helmets HAS to take place. Banning the bouncer is not the answer,making equipment safer is the way forward.

Chenz
27th November 2014, 04:58 PM
Desperately tragic news a great young man cut down in the prime of his life.

I think they should get back to test cricket as scheduled. I am sure Phil Hughes would have wanted the game to go on.

disco man
27th November 2014, 05:07 PM
Desperately tragic news a great young man cut down in the prime of his life.

I think they should get back to test cricket as scheduled. I am sure Phil Hughes would have wanted the game to go on.

As far as I know the test team have been given the personal choice option to play. But I imagine they would want to play for Philip and for all the fans as a way of showing respect.

Eevo
27th November 2014, 05:15 PM
oh crap!

not unexpected news but definitely sad :(

Landy Smurf
27th November 2014, 05:17 PM
Just woke up and saw that on the news,not very good at all.
It will be interesting how this affects cricket.

VladTepes
27th November 2014, 05:20 PM
Very sad news :(

The bloke was fantastic to watch - a real star.

Fortunately such things are very rare in cricket, just very sad for Phil's family that this so rare an event had to happen to them.


Now we need to make sure this CANNOT happen again. A major redesign of helmets HAS to take place. Banning the bouncer is not the answer,making equipment safer is the way forward.

Apparently the helmet he was wearing has been superseded, very recently, but he wasn't wearing the latest one.

Apparently CA hadn't been telling everyone they had to? He may not even have been aware a new one was on offer. All conjecture.

Eevo
27th November 2014, 05:22 PM
ABC radio journos all breaking down during their broadcast.

https://soundcloud.com/abc_grandstand/702-richard-glover-with-jim-maxwell

trog
27th November 2014, 05:39 PM
As in any tragedy , there is no need for the visual media to repeat on a seemingly endless loop the actual event. Bad enough for the event to happen , it doesnt need this. Show some compassion tv stations.

p38arover
27th November 2014, 06:26 PM
Absolutely devastated. I feel physically sick.

Terrible accident but I don't understand why you'd feel absolutely devastated and physically sick over the death of someone you didn't know.

donh54
27th November 2014, 06:48 PM
Now we need to make sure this CANNOT happen again. A major redesign of helmets HAS to take place. Banning the bouncer is not the answer,making equipment safer is the way forward.

Why not make the balls from sponge rubber, and the bats from balsa wood? It is a contest in which a really hard ball is thrown really fast, and the target defends him/herself and their wickets with a piece of wood.
It is a tragic event, but it is LIFE. Sometimes people get hurt, sometimes they even die. Sad, but unavoidable. Look at the Bodyline series.

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disco man
27th November 2014, 06:55 PM
Why not make the balls from sponge rubber, and the bats from balsa wood? It is a contest in which a really hard ball is thrown really fast, and the target defends him/herself and their wickets with a piece of wood.
It is a tragic event, but it is LIFE. Sometimes people get hurt, sometimes they even die. Sad, but unavoidable. Look at the Bodyline series.

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G'day mate,Look all I am saying is we do not need to change anything more in the game other than better helmets,I understand people will get hurt playing the game,but if better helmets are in use a mistimed hook or pull shot will not result in someone being killed.

p38arover
27th November 2014, 06:57 PM
Bodyline was different - the bowlers were trying to hit or at least intimidate the batsmen. It's amazing no one was killed.

I don't follow cricket so I had no idea about their helmet design. I was surprised that his helmet didn't come down over the ears.

d2dave
27th November 2014, 07:38 PM
Terrible accident but I don't understand why you'd feel absolutely devastated and physically sick over the death of someone you didn't know.

The fact you don't follow cricket is probably why you don't understand.

This might sound strange but I reckon that had he been killed in a car accident, as tragic as that would also be, it would have been easier to digest.

Me being a cricket tragic, and I reckon that I am speaking for others here judging by the responses, the fact that he died doing his job, in a job that has a very good safety record, is why we are devastated.

reachjatt
27th November 2014, 07:42 PM
Tragic loss at such a young age!!! All i can say he went down doing what he loved the most. Didn't knew at the 40 game mark in his first class career Hughes tally of 3882 runs was second only to Bradman's 4922.

disco man
27th November 2014, 07:59 PM
The fact you don't follow cricket is probably why you don't understand.

This might sound strange but I reckon that had he been killed in a car accident, as tragic as that would also be, it would have been easier to digest.

Me being a cricket tragic, and I reckon that I am speaking for others here judging by the responses, the fact that he died doing his job, in a job that has a very good safety record, is why we are devastated.

Very well put Dave.

p38arover
27th November 2014, 08:04 PM
The fact you don't follow cricket is probably why you don't understand.

Possibly - but doubtful.

Discofever
27th November 2014, 08:32 PM
Possibly - but doubtful.

I would say that it a big reason - you're disassociated from it.

I went to the subcontinent on a tour in 04/05 and I met a very young Phillip at the cricket when he toured India as a NSW schoolboy on a CA youth scholarship. He was keeping wicket as a 15 year old. Other than our group and another one there were not many Aussies in the crowd. I spoke to him - he was talkative.

I love cricket, played it all my life and always took a interest in him and hoped he'd do well. When I heard the news he had passed today I felt sick, it rocked me as I fully expected him to come out of his coma. You're right, I don't know him but it's how I feel, everyone is different and I don't expect you to understand nor do I particularly care.

Basil135
28th November 2014, 09:43 AM
Now we need to make sure this CANNOT happen again. A major redesign of helmets HAS to take place. Banning the bouncer is not the answer,making equipment safer is the way forward.

This was raised on the day that it happened, and even the manufacturer of the latest design helmet said it was doubtful that the new helmet would have made any difference.


The bottom line is that this was a terrible, unfortunate accident. It was nothing more. Any number of things could have been different, and the outcome totally different. But they didn't.

Sean Abbott needs peoples support at the moment, as there has been some doubt about whether he will ever bowl again.

Eevo
28th November 2014, 09:45 AM
to my knowledge, no one has died from bring hit by a ball in cricket before.

CraigE
28th November 2014, 10:20 AM
RIP Phillip Hughes

Sincere thoughts to Philip Hughes family, friends and the entire cricket fraternity at all levels.
Also thoughts with Sean and his family and friends.

No one is to blame for this incident, it is just so unfortunate that the ball where it hit compressed an artery apparently. Very freak and unfortuanate incident.

I had to tell my 14 yo when he got home from school (currently playing U17s). He is just devastated.

I personally dont like the bouncer, but it is legal and not sure it is the direct cause in itself and certainly the bowler IS NOT To Blame. The problem I have with the bouncer is it is intended to bounce up in front of the player, by coming up at their head, forcing them back and hitting the ball up. The bouncer is only allowed in A grade and professional cricket at no more than 1 an over. I know as a kid we used to practice this not relay knowing how dangerous it actually is, more so for injury to the face. If juniors bowl bouncers they can be suspended and at the very least a no ball and a reprimand.
From my understanding there have been 6 deaths from cricket balls world wide in professional cricket, the last I remember was a ball to the chest, so not a lot could stop that.

There are other helmet designs that have been put forward and considered. It is not an easy solution as bringing the helmet down the back of the neck can restrict movement and this can be more dangerous and a hindrance, but it needs to be looked at. The helmet is only a fairly recent protection toll, look at the days when one was not used and some of the injuries that did occur from bouncers and bodyline.

Like Dave our family are cricket tragics, especially my wife and son. My boy really wanted to go to the ODI last week but school on Friday and junior cricket on the Sunday meant we couldnt. He saw Philip play in the ashes in Perth and was so looking forward to the upcoming test and hoping Phil would be picked to play. Phill while relatively slipping under the radar was infact one of the best batsmen this country has ever seen.

Sad, sad day.

d2dave
28th November 2014, 12:38 PM
RIP Phillip Hughes

Sincere thoughts to Philip Hughes family, friends and the entire cricket fraternity at all levels.
Also thoughts with Sean and his family and friends.

No one is to blame for this incident, it is just so unfortunate that the ball where it hit compressed an artery apparently. Very freak and unfortuanate incident.

I had to tell my 14 yo when he got home from school (currently playing U17s). He is just devastated.

I personally dont like the bouncer, but it is legal and not sure it is the direct cause in itself and certainly the bowler IS NOT To Blame. The problem I have with the bouncer is it is intended to bounce up in front of the player, by coming up at their head, forcing them back and hitting the ball up. The bouncer is only allowed in A grade and professional cricket at no more than 1 an over. I know as a kid we used to practice this not relay knowing how dangerous it actually is, more so for injury to the face. If juniors bowl bouncers they can be suspended and at the very least a no ball and a reprimand.
From my understanding there have been 6 deaths from cricket balls world wide in professional cricket, the last I remember was a ball to the chest, so not a lot could stop that.

There are other helmet designs that have been put forward and considered. It is not an easy solution as bringing the helmet down the back of the neck can restrict movement and this can be more dangerous and a hindrance, but it needs to be looked at. The helmet is only a fairly recent protection toll, look at the days when one was not used and some of the injuries that did occur from bouncers and bodyline.

Like Dave our family are cricket tragics, especially my wife and son. My boy really wanted to go to the ODI last week but school on Friday and junior cricket on the Sunday meant we couldnt. He saw Philip play in the ashes in Perth and was so looking forward to the upcoming test and hoping Phil would be picked to play. Phill while relatively slipping under the radar was infact one of the best batsmen this country has ever seen.

Sad, sad day.

I started to get a bit emotional reading this. As you said a sad sad day.

bob10
28th November 2014, 06:46 PM
It has been absolutely amazing how this incident has had an effect all around the World. My Wife is not a cricket follower, but she was a bit teary, and I had something in my eye. To see the Australian cricket team, as they actually are, a wonderful group of young, sensitive men, well, I have a new respect for the Australian side. And to see Indian, Pakistan, English, NZ, South African cricketers, and more, showing respect, and genuine regret. If there was a legacy to come out of this, I suggest Philip Hughes has united the cricketers of the World , like I haven't seen before. I struggle to find positives, but that's not a bad one. I can not begin to know how the young bowler feels. A tragic accident. Bob

disco man
28th November 2014, 06:54 PM
It wasn't that long ago the cricket world said goodbye to David Hookes,but this has been a different type of emotion. Both situations are incredibly hard to comprehend but the loss of someone so young with so much left to offer is very hard to understand. As many have said Abbott would be in a very dark place inside his head. But everyone is behind you mate.

d2dave
28th November 2014, 11:20 PM
It wasn't that long ago the cricket world said goodbye to David Hookes,but this has been a different type of emotion. Both situations are incredibly hard to comprehend but the loss of someone so young with so much left to offer is very hard to understand. As many have said Abbott would be in a very dark place inside his head. But everyone is behind you mate.

I think the difference between Hookes and Hughes is that Hookes had finished his career and although just as tragic, did not happen on the sporting field.

When I lived in Melbourne I religiously listened to 3AW's sports today show which had Hooksy and Gerard Healy as their two commentators.

Where I live now I can still pick up the show in summer, but it has never been the same since Hooksy is no longer with us.

I have just got home from having early Christmas drinks with "crash",(he is os for xmas soon) SWMBO picked me up, will collect car tomorrow,and below is a pic of what she has done while I was gone.

I am getting very emotional typing this. Probably the VB.

I just did a google search of Hookes out of interest and I came across this.

Phillip Hughes, David Hookes, Damien Oliver, cricket (http://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/phillip-hughes-dies-australias-next-test-a-chance-to-pay-tribute-to-an-outstanding-young-man/story-fndpt0dy-1227137328824)

If you are a cricket fan read it. My tears are now flowing.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/11/91.jpg

Debacle
28th November 2014, 11:45 PM
to my knowledge, no one has died from bring hit by a ball in cricket before.

Not the first time. I remember reading years ago about a mate of Jeff Thomson getting killed playing grade cricket when the ball hit him in the chest.
There was also an Indian one day player died in the 80's from getting hit in the head.
There's probably quite a few worldwide which we don't hear about because they weren't high profile players.

disco man
29th November 2014, 10:01 AM
I think the difference between Hookes and Hughes is that Hookes had finished his career and although just as tragic, did not happen on the sporting field.

When I lived in Melbourne I religiously listened to 3AW's sports today show which had Hooksy and Gerard Healy as their two commentators.

Where I live now I can still pick up the show in summer, but it has never been the same since Hooksy is no longer with us.

I have just got home from having early Christmas drinks with "crash",(he is os for xmas soon) SWMBO picked me up, will collect car tomorrow,and below is a pic of what she has done while I was gone.

I am getting very emotional typing this. Probably the VB.

I just did a google search of Hookes out of interest and I came across this.

Phillip Hughes, David Hookes, Damien Oliver, cricket (http://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/phillip-hughes-dies-australias-next-test-a-chance-to-pay-tribute-to-an-outstanding-young-man/story-fndpt0dy-1227137328824)

If you are a cricket fan read it. My tears are now flowing.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/11/91.jpg


G'day Dave, Mate that was an awesome post. That article was spot on and put things into context. Your tribute at home was a nice touch. Personally I think the test should go ahead,it has to. But only in due time. But that is easy for me to say,as I have not just lost a teammate and friend. The fact he got the his test recall is a very bittersweet feeling. But some of the reporting in the media has gone from respectful to outright rating hunting:mad:

disco man
29th November 2014, 01:12 PM
The way this tragedy has effected the game is overwhelming. Both teams are clearly showing the emotion and sadness of his passing.

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jx2mad
29th November 2014, 01:18 PM
As an retired cricketer I feel gutted. News items bring tears to my eyes. What a tragedy!

disco man
29th November 2014, 01:37 PM
As an retired cricketer I feel gutted. News items bring tears to my eyes. What a tragedy!

I hear you mate,I was watching Michael Clarke on Fox Sports news just before and I have to admit it got to me a bit:(

d2dave
29th November 2014, 02:06 PM
I heard Clarke on the wireless this morning doing a short speech and he really struggled to get through it.

disco man
3rd December 2014, 03:46 PM
The funeral service for Philip Hughes was a very respectful,touching but ultimately very sad occasion. The words spoken by his brother,sister,friends,cousin and also Michael Clarke were moving yet a uplifting account of a life well lived yet cut short. Cricket Australia and Channel 9 did a wonderful job with the service today. Cricketers from around the world paid their respects. RIP Philip Hughes,

Doc130
3rd December 2014, 04:04 PM
Well said disco man, rip Phil Hughes

d2dave
3rd December 2014, 04:39 PM
Unfortunately I didn't see it.

RIP Phil

disco man
4th December 2014, 05:48 PM
A very nice touch by V8 Supercars.

V8 Supercars pay tribute to Phillip Hughes (http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/championship/v8-supercars-pay-tribute-to-phillip-hughes)

d2dave
4th December 2014, 06:29 PM
A very nice touch by V8 Supercars.

V8 Supercars pay tribute to Phillip Hughes (http://www.v8supercars.com.au/news/championship/v8-supercars-pay-tribute-to-phillip-hughes)

Just had a look at the link.

Yes, very very nice touch.

Basil135
4th December 2014, 09:11 PM
Not taking anything away from the tragic circumstances from which a family has lost a son and brother, BUT:

The death of Phillip Hughes has become a media circus. I firmly believe that the vast majority of people that have been left "gutted" and other words to the effect, quite possibly never heard of him a month ago.

Why has this one tragic accident taken over, when just a day or so later, a young woman was killed playing hockey when struck by the ball?

I took a quick poll yesterday, and not one person could name the last member of our Armed Forces to die in combat. Nor could they name one police officer, firefighter, or ambulance officer to die while carrying out their duties.

Why is this particular accident any worse than any of the above? Why is it any worse than a construction worker being killed at work?

As I said, I am not trying to take anything away from his great career, but I do think we need to keep it in perspective.

Eevo
4th December 2014, 09:42 PM
Why is this particular accident any worse than any of the above? .


- lots of australians like cricket
- cricket is generally considered a gentlemen's game. non contact. the worst injury you could expect is a strained muscle or a case of sunburn.
- injuries are common in hockey
- injuries and death is expect in the defence force
- same with emergencies services


i think you are correct about this being a media circus.




ps. i cant name the last officer to die in SA, but if you go to the holden hill police station, you'll find their portraits in the front lobby.
if you take those portraits off the wall, you will find the bullet holes that killed them.

bob10
4th December 2014, 09:56 PM
Next time one of our servicemen or women die doing their job overseas, we must bring them all home until they get over it. Not taking away from the sad time, but what is next, sainthood? Bob

bob10
4th December 2014, 10:09 PM
I waited until after the funeral, to post this, out of respect for the young man, & his family, Bob


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jx2mad
4th December 2014, 10:15 PM
OK ,let's leave it at that. I understand the other side as mentioned above. Any loss of life is tragic, so please let this thread lie and be as intended at the start. If you wish to continue with a wider ranging discussion please start a new thread. Jim

d2dave
4th December 2014, 10:18 PM
I can name the last 5 Vic police officers to die doing their job.

disco man
9th December 2014, 10:09 AM
The sadness is over now its time to play. The Adelaide oval looks awesome the sun is shinning first ball has been bowled,life in Australia during cricket season is good. Shami is getting some good movement.

disco man
9th December 2014, 10:19 AM
Its going to be a very long day for India if they keep bowling short wide rubbish to Warner,he will punish you all day.

Eevo
9th December 2014, 10:39 AM
might take an early lunch and go down

disco man
9th December 2014, 12:47 PM
A very good first session by Australia,Warner is on his way to another century but a good fight back by India mainly Ishant Sharma. Bloody good to have the cricket back.

digger
9th December 2014, 01:49 PM
WARNER 100 just before drinks, well done.

watch the highlights to see what this means to them..

WARNERS 50, then when on 63, then his ton, shows the spirit and hopefully this stays..

CLARKE about to make 50 (but not as convincing as WARNER), but he is digging in to, hopefully like the eulogy "make it through to tea"


2/180

disco man
9th December 2014, 02:17 PM
WARNER 100 just before drinks, well done.

watch the highlights to see what this means to them..

WARNERS 50, then when on 63, then his ton, shows the spirit and hopefully this stays..

CLARKE about to make 50 (but not as convincing as WARNER), but he is digging in to, hopefully like the eulogy "make it through to tea"


2/180

Bloody sad to see Clarke retire hurt. You have got to ask was he fit in the first place? Is it time to walk away? The gap between injury and recovery is getting bigger.

d2dave
9th December 2014, 02:47 PM
Bloody sad to see Clarke retire hurt. You have got to ask was he fit in the first place? Is it time to walk away? The gap between injury and recovery is getting bigger.

He probably was not ready fitness wise, but because of the Hughes thing was playing to support his team mates.

Debacle
9th December 2014, 08:57 PM
He probably was not ready fitness wise, but because of the Hughes thing was playing to support his team mates.

I doubt if we will see him playing test cricket again, he is 33 and unlikely to get any better. He is not the only one in that team that is getting towards the end of their career. Rogers, Haddin, Watson, Johnson and Harris are no spring chickens.

disco man
10th December 2014, 09:33 AM
Day two,I think the match is very even at the moment. Its a bit overcast in Adelaide today which should give a bit of movement for the bowlers. If the Indians get a couple of wickets in the first session that will change the match. If Australia get around 500-550 I don't think India can compete. But cricket is a funny can and anything can happen. Gotta love summer:)

nugge t
10th December 2014, 09:47 AM
Just read where Clarke is expected to bat after having spent 10 minutes in the nets this morning and having had a couple of jabs in the back last night.


Just hope it isn't about getting from 60 to 63 and that no further injury occurs. No doubting his resolve/guts/determination but sometimes you can be ones own worst enemy and there is a lot of emotion in this match.

bob10
10th December 2014, 10:25 AM
I believe this is just the 2nd Test Match played on the drop in pitch. After the large scores in the domestic comp., [ 670, I think, once, might be mistaken] it will be interesting to see how this match goes. Bob

disco man
10th December 2014, 10:48 AM
I believe this is just the 2nd Test Match played on the drop in pitch. After the large scores in the domestic comp., [ 670, I think, once, might be mistaken] it will be interesting to see how this match goes. Bob

I know its only day two but the pitch still looks like a batsmen's paradise. I have to wonder what (if any) plans India are using? There has been no building pressure by the bowlers. Ishant Sharma is THE only bowler hitting good areas. Clarke is struggling and they are not exploiting that at all. India don't have the 'turn the screws' mentality. I am interested to see if drop in pitches break down like proper ones do.

bob10
10th December 2014, 05:46 PM
I know its only day two but the pitch still looks like a batsmen's paradise. I have to wonder what (if any) plans India are using? There has been no building pressure by the bowlers. Ishant Sharma is THE only bowler hitting good areas. Clarke is struggling and they are not exploiting that at all. India don't have the 'turn the screws' mentality. I am interested to see if drop in pitches break down like proper ones do.


Yes, the Indians are being too nice. Understandable, considering the circumstances. Time for some mongrel to get back in the game. The jury is out on drop in pitches, Bob

bob10
10th December 2014, 05:49 PM
Just a thought. If we were playing the West Indies of old, they would have bowled Clarke out of test cricket , altogether, by now. No offence against Clarke, but that is the way cricket used to be. Bob

disco man
10th December 2014, 06:19 PM
Just a thought. If we were playing the West Indies of old, they would have bowled Clarke out of test cricket , altogether, by now. No offence against Clarke, but that is the way cricket used to be. Bob

I think the Windies would have gone hard at Clarke. Just like the Aussie's would have if it was it was the other team in the same position. India don't have the batsmen like Laxman,Sachin,Sahwag,Ganguly, to chase down this target. And I am the same on drop in wickets,not sure yet. I don't know if Clarke is going to get through the world cup and into the next ashes. This injury might be the end.

disco man
13th December 2014, 09:18 AM
This test has been bloody good so far,now the final day. I think we will get a result. But the pitch is throwing up some surprises that you would expect from a fifth day Adelaide wicket. If India can get the win they will go to the Gabba with massive confidence. They got the same amount of runs in the same amount of overs in the first innings so they could do it. But with the pitch playing the way it is and Lyon bowling very smartly and Harris hitting very good areas it becomes much harder. But after yesterdays confrontations it shows these Indians have come to play. This is going to be a great day:)

Sandgroper
13th December 2014, 10:27 AM
This test has been bloody good so far,now the final day. I think we will get a result. But the pitch is throwing up some surprises that you would expect from a fifth day Adelaide wicket. If India can get the win they will go to the Gabba with massive confidence. They got the same amount of runs in the same amount of overs in the first innings so they could do it. But with the pitch playing the way it is and Lyon bowling very smartly and Harris hitting very good areas it becomes much harder. But after yesterdays confrontations it shows these Indians have come to play. This is going to be a great day:)



Couldn't agree more, this test has been a beauty thus far, looking forward to seeing what today throws up.

disco man
13th December 2014, 10:52 AM
Gee,Lyon is asking some serious questions of the Indian batsmen,he is bowling bloody good.

d2dave
13th December 2014, 06:36 PM
Well that was one awesome day of cricket. At tea India were a good chance, at stumps it was the Aussies.

What a performance of Lyon. And to think how many centuries were scored, the amount lost to rain and we still got a result.

Bloody brilliant!

Homestar
13th December 2014, 07:28 PM
Yep, a great days play. Lyon was unlucky early on, but never gave up and came away with a great result. :)

disco man
13th December 2014, 07:47 PM
I haven't seen any updates on Clarke's injury,but going by his face when he left the ground it looks serious. I must admit I was very impressed with the fight India have showed in this test. The people who knock test cricket and reckon its dead obviously don't watch it. Looking forward to the Gabba:)

Homestar
13th December 2014, 08:00 PM
Yeah, worried about Clarke. He could be finished now.

Test cricket rules. None of that hit and giggle for me. This is still by far the best form of the game.

disco man
13th December 2014, 08:13 PM
Yeah, worried about Clarke. He could be finished now.

Test cricket rules. None of that hit and giggle for me. This is still by far the best form of the game.

Without knowing the full extent of Clarke's injury its hard to speculate,but with only a four day turnaround before the Gabba test its very hard to see him being ready. Also from what I understand he was using quite a lot of needles and painkillers for the back injury. Its very unlikely these are short term injuries.

Debacle
13th December 2014, 08:54 PM
This Australia v India, 1st Test, Adelaide, 5th day : Injured Michael Clarke admits he may never play again | Cricket News | Australia v India | ESPN Cricinfo (http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia-v-india-2014-15/content/story/809897.html) sums it up about Clarke. Not good.

d2dave
13th December 2014, 09:54 PM
Test cricket rules. None of that hit and giggle for me. This is still by far the best form of the game.

X2.

disco man
14th December 2014, 10:23 AM
Well where to now for Australia's next captain? Haddin can't have to many summers left in him. I hear Steve Smiths name mentioned a lot,and also Warner as a possible candidate. If Clarke never plays again do the ACB let Haddin lead the team into the next ashes,or name their candidate after the world cup?

Homestar
14th December 2014, 11:27 AM
That is a very good question, and I would think it will be a hot topic for quite some time. No one really stands out in my mind, Haddin will be fine short term, but not sure from there...

disco man
14th December 2014, 07:10 PM
That is a very good question, and I would think it will be a hot topic for quite some time. No one really stands out in my mind, Haddin will be fine short term, but not sure from there...

Smith is the name that keeps coming up.

India in Australia 2014-15 : Michael Clarke doubt opens captaincy debate | Cricket News | Australia v India | ESPN Cricinfo (http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia-v-india-2014-15/content/story/810207.html)

d2dave
14th December 2014, 07:32 PM
I doubt that Haddin will get the job. There is no point picking the a new caption for such a short time. I love Haddin and I just wish he was a bit younger and I would then love him as caption.

My money is on Smith. I don't reckon that Warner has the right demeanor for captaincy.

Question. Is the next test in Brisbane the first test or the second test?

bob10
14th December 2014, 09:30 PM
Ian Chappell has endorsed Smith. Warners taunting of Aaron put him a step behind. Brisbane is the 2nd test. Bob

Homestar
15th December 2014, 06:00 AM
So Smith may be it then. Although he may be the leading contender, I personally think we have a few issues when we don't have a standout performer that is being groomed for the job well before the current Captain retires.

disco man
15th December 2014, 09:09 PM
So Smith may be it then. Although he may be the leading contender, I personally think we have a few issues when we don't have a standout performer that is being groomed for the job well before the current Captain retires.

Good call,also Smith is not too experienced in captaincy just yet. But in saying that Grahame Smith was the youngest ever South African captain with little experience and went on to be a exceptional skipper. So it might be worth taking the gamble sooner rather than later.

Homestar
16th December 2014, 05:26 AM
I'm sure Smith will grow into the role and become a good Captain. He is a very good player and has a level head. Don't get me wrong, he has my full support and I hope he does well, I just think we have a few issues in certain places a bit further up if they didn't see this coming and moved to do something about it sooner.

disco man
16th December 2014, 09:58 AM
I think the ACB has done the right thing by naming Smith as the next captain and I think he will excel. I know tradition says Haddin as Vice-captain should have been appointed,but Smith's appointment is the long term solution which IMO was the right thing to do,Also I think he should take over from George Bailey as ODI captain,not that I think Bailey is a bad captain,or not doing the job properly. I think Smith should be captain of both sides. I never have agreed with the two captains since it started,or this bowler rotation policy.

No Cookies | Fox Sports News, Live Sport, Sports | Fox Sports (http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/australia/steve-smith-captaincy-australian-players-shocked-but-pleased-for-new-skipper/story-fn2mcu3x-1227157232642)

Homestar
17th December 2014, 03:01 PM
Channel 9 have just shown an interview between Tubby and Steve Smith. It was a very good interview and Smith came accross very well. :)

I hope he grows into a great Captain for the team, and I wish him a long career in this role.

Now, back to the Cricket and to see how India handle the hot afternoon Gabba wicket....:twisted:

disco man
17th December 2014, 04:43 PM
Channel 9 have just shown an interview between Tubby and Steve Smith. It was a very good interview and Smith came accross very well. :)

I hope he grows into a great Captain for the team, and I wish him a long career in this role.

Now, back to the Cricket and to see how India handle the hot afternoon Gabba wicket....:twisted:

G'day Babs,Yep Smith looked like a veteran skipper in that interview. Got to say it looks like the Indians are coping better with the conditions. I would rather be batting than bowling in that sort of heat:)

disco man
19th December 2014, 09:45 AM
Well,it looks like we are in for another very good test. India batted well and Australia fought back with the ball with Hazlewood showing he is a bloody good bowler. Smith is doing fantastic in the captaincy role,he set good attacking fields,rotated his bowlers smartly and showed good understanding of the conditions. I must admit I agree with Shane Warne's call for Starc to show a bit more 'mongrel'. The two best fast bowlers in the world,Johnson and Steyn have HUGE presence at the crease and the batsmen knows they are in a contest when facing them,Starc has to do the same. Unless he bowls an astounding spell in the next innings I can't see him keeping his spot,with Siddle and Harris due to return and Hazlewood bowling well I think Starc will be forced out. Even though he hit a good half-ton yesterday I think Rodgers time in the baggy green is coming to an end,he needs some big scores very soon.

loneranger
19th December 2014, 06:13 PM
Well,it looks like we are in for another very good test. India batted well and Australia fought back with the ball with Hazlewood showing he is a bloody good bowler. Smith is doing fantastic in the captaincy role,he set good attacking fields,rotated his bowlers smartly and showed good understanding of the conditions. I must admit I agree with Shane Warne's call for Starc to show a bit more 'mongrel'. The two best fast bowlers in the world,Johnson and Steyn have HUGE presence at the crease and the batsmen knows they are in a contest when facing them,Starc has to do the same. Unless he bowls an astounding spell in the next innings I can't see him keeping his spot,with Siddle and Harris due to return and Hazlewood bowling well I think Starc will be forced out. Even though he hit a good half-ton yesterday I think Rodgers time in the baggy green is coming to an end,he needs some big scores very soon.

Watson should go before Rogers but we all know that won't happen especially if Mitch Marsh's injury keeps him out of the next test.

disco man
19th December 2014, 07:20 PM
Watson should go before Rogers but we all know that won't happen especially if Mitch Marsh's injury keeps him out of the next test.

Fully agree with you mate. IMO Watson is very overrated,I have no idea why he is rated so highly. But he seems to be a protected species.

d2dave
20th December 2014, 04:36 PM
What a great game that was. Who would ever have thought, after the first two innings yielded 900 runs, that it would be all over in less than 4 days.