Definition of a "Puma" Defender

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Well as some of you may or may not know I inherited a 2010 130
Puma. Now this is on the Island of Tanna in Vanuatu. Yes I know, what is a bloody Puma doing here. Well after rebuilding the engine, rebuilding the suspension and various other things it runs and I must say it runs quite well. But after basically going over this thing with a fine tooth comb I have worked out the best definition for this LR.


Its what you get when you put iphone technology in a Morris Marina.
The tech is great until is stops. Then you need a Hawkeye of similar and a second mortgage to repair it. Then there is the Morris Marina build quality and tolerances, Say no more. Lets just say I am so glad I didn't pay the 50K that someone else did. Honestly in this day and age its just a joke that LR built this!!!


Justin

[FeatherWeightDriver]

What happened to that poor beast? Why did it need all that work so soon?

[DRanged]

What happened to that poor beast? Why did it need all that work so soon?


Mate its a Puma. 70,000 km and its stuffed. It astounds me that LR could produce a vehicle that is so fussy with the oil it requires and then send it all over the world where said oil is not available. I just keep laughing at the build quality, that's all you can do!!


Justin

[101RRS]

A Puma Defender is a Defender fitted with the Puma engine - so the 2.4 and later the 2.2.

Garry

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A Puma Defender is a Defender fitted with the Puma engine - so the 2.4 and later the 2.2.

Garry


Ah yes I have just rebuilt it so I gather that. Not really sure of the meaning of your post????????

[Beery]

Ah yes I have just rebuilt it so I gather that. Not really sure of the meaning of your post????????

Ummmmm because you asked what the "Definition of a Puma Defender" is....

[Vern]

Justin, I don't think anyone actually read your thread!

It was his interpretation of a puma

[djam1]

Careful you are not allowed to say anything negative about Pumas on this site.

[101RRS]

Ah yes I have just rebuilt it so I gather that. Not really sure of the meaning of your post????????

The Title of the Thread is "Definition of a "Puma" Defender (http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defender-county/210967-definition-puma-defender.html#post2276359)"

I just responded to that.

[PAT303]

Mate its a Puma. 70,000 km and its stuffed. It astounds me that LR could produce a vehicle that is so fussy with the oil it requires and then send it all over the world where said oil is not available. I just keep laughing at the build quality, that's all you can do!!


Justin

Go and buy any new vehicle regardless of make,car-truck-earthmover-tractor etc and run 20W 40 mineral oil in it and see how far you get.Nice rant. Pat

[kogvos]

Careful you are not allowed to say anything negative about Pumas on this site.

Maybe not "about" them, but I say plenty of negative things "to" mine on a regular basis. The bastard doesn't listen, though.

[justinc]

Maybe not "about" them, but I say plenty of negative things "to" mine on a regular basis. The bastard doesn't listen, though.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=78b67l_yxUc

Jc :)

[bob the builder]

It must have been Fawty.

[DiscoMick]

Is 5W30 oil really that hard to get in Vanuatu?

[vnx205]

It must have been Fawty.

Fawty?

Nawty/Naughty or Fawlty/Faulty or perhaps both?
:D

[Toxic_Avenger]

Fawty?

Nawty/Naughty or Fawlty/Faulty or perhaps both?
:D

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2014/12/878.jpg

[DRanged]

Is 5W30 oil really that hard to get in Vanuatu?


Not now. I think I am the only customer though.


Justin

[DRanged]

Go and buy any new vehicle regardless of make,car-truck-earthmover-tractor etc and run 20W 40 mineral oil in it and see how far you get.Nice rant. Pat


Well Pat
We run brand new Isuzu Dmax on 15W40 mineral and they are superb. The old Hilux,s here have well over 180000km and have had all sorts of oil in their lives...... still going.


I think its just so stupid to put an engine in a car that needs a first world oil when it gets shipped to 3rd world countries. ???


J

[isuzurover]

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I think its just so stupid to put an engine in a car that needs a first world oil when it gets shipped to 3rd world countries. ???


J

On the contrary - I would say it is marketing genius for the parts department! How else are they going to sell all the engine rebuild kits???

[PAT303]

Well Pat
We run brand new Isuzu Dmax on 15W40 mineral and they are superb. The old Hilux,s here have well over 180000km and have had all sorts of oil in their lives...... still going.


I think its just so stupid to put an engine in a car that needs a first world oil when it gets shipped to 3rd world countries. ???


J

They have to fit engines compliant with regulations,they have no choice.You say the Dmax's are new,how do you know they are not going to have the same problem once they get the K's up and will Isuzu cover the cost knowing they have run on the wrong oil?,older hilux's,the correct oil is 15w40. Pat

[dawsey]

Well Im happy with mine 2013 110, 28k on the clock , put in for service on Monday and the first warranty fix which I didn't even pickup, front diff seal leaking oil..replaced ..I think the pumas run better with a few klms on the clock.

[DRanged]

They have to fit engines compliant with regulations,they have no choice.You say the Dmax's are new,how do you know they are not going to have the same problem once they get the K's up and will Isuzu cover the cost knowing they have run on the wrong oil?,older hilux's,the correct oil is 15w40. Pat


All good Pat. We run the 2.5TD over here and use the Lubrimax 15W40 supplied by the dealer, so no worries. Also its Isuzu not a Transit Van engine


J