D4 TDV6 MY2014 Global Closing

[hazza1981]

Hi

I've got a D4 TDV6 MY 2014 and struggling to get global closing to work at all.

I've done a search on here and most posts seem to relate to previous models rather than the current MY2014 version so sorry if this is a repeat.

Global opening works ok.

According to Australian MY2014 specs the TDV6 should have Global Closing, however nothing happens and according to the owner manual there is an option in vehicle set-up to turn it on and off, but there's no such option.

Anyone else had this experience? Any ideas to get it to work?

Thanks

[Roulston]

I Have never got mine to work, but I haven't tried all that much. Not something that I want hard enough to bother with, so I will watch this thread with interest.

TR

[nat_89]

I never got it to work really although doesn't bother me as the air con is so good the car cools down that quick it doesn't really matter. I did see something on this a while ago but forget what it was under.

[letherm]

Presumably it's under warranty being a 2014 model so if no joy here I'd be giving the dealer a call - may be a simple thing to do yourself.

[PJJ]

G'day Hazza1981,

My 2012 D4 was the same.

I got on to someone in Landrover "Help" & he reckons that it has been disabled on all Auatralian Spec. D4s.

Apparently Aussies are prone to jamming kids hands/heads in the windows. ;)

Phil

[hazza1981]

G'day Hazza1981,

My 2012 D4 was the same.

I got on to someone in Landrover "Help" & he reckons that it has been disabled on all Auatralian Spec. D4s.

Apparently Aussies are prone to jamming kids hands/heads in the windows. ;)

Phil

Thanks - any idea if it was something that could be enabled at the dealer? It just seems strange that it's listed in the Australian Specs as a feature yet doesn't work.

[d2dave]

What is "Global Closing?"

[Hatchy]

What is "Global Closing?"

Hold the unlock button down on you key fob and it opens all the windows. Called 'global opening'. Hold the lock button down and all the windows close called global closing.

I have an MY14 as well and it doesn't have global closing activated but I plan on asking the dealer to activated it, global opening works a treat.

[sniegy]

Global Closing is NOT enabled on Aus market vehicles.
Dealer will not be able to program as the programming for the Aus market will not modify the CCF file.

Cheers.

[hazza1981]

Global Closing is NOT enabled on Aus market vehicles.
Dealer will not be able to program as the programming for the Aus market will not modify the CCF file.

Cheers.

Thanks but the Australian spec documents say that Global Closing is standard on all models (MY2014 specs) - which is why I find it strange it's not there.

[sniegy]

Hazza, are you referring to the supplied hand books?

[Hatchy]

Global Closing is NOT enabled on Aus market vehicles.
Dealer will not be able to program as the programming for the Aus market will not modify the CCF file.

Cheers.

There has to be a way it can be activated. If it can be done on pre MY14, why not MY14????

[discotwinturbo]

Works a treat on my MY12. Up and down fine by using the keyfob.
Get your fingers in there and it will stop and go back down again.
Seems odd that they would disable it for later models.
Very handy feature when kids leave the windows open, so being able to global close all windows from in the home is a very handy feature.
Brett....

[lpj]

Works a treat on my MY12. Up and down fine by using the keyfob.
Get your fingers in there and it will stop and go back down again.
Seems odd that they would disable it for later models.
Very handy feature when kids leave the windows open, so being able to global close all windows from in the home is a very handy feature.
Brett....

Did you have to activate it? I have an MY12 SE as well and would love this feature. My 2001 Golf GTI had it and I used it a lot for same reasons as you have described.

Maybe I should read that manual!!

[Tombie]

If you have access to a Nanocom or similar you can modify your CCF to make it work...

[cjc_td5]

The CCF for my MY14 TDV6 D4 has Global Close and Open "enabled" but only Global Open works in practice. There are a couple of other similar settings that could have an impact though...

The one I want to have a play with is "Engine Power Output" with the drop box options of 156kW and 180kW. It is oh so tempting to select 180kW and see what happens :cool::cool::cool:

Must keep reminding myself, this is a 5 month old car, don't play with it yet...:)

Cheers,

[Redback]

Global Closing is NOT enabled on Aus market vehicles.
Dealer will not be able to program as the programming for the Aus market will not modify the CCF file.

Cheers.

We have OURS enabled:p

So YOUR'S should be able to be done too Pete;)

Can be enabled by Faultmate also:D

Baz.

[Nicky]

Redback, which device are you using?

[hazza1981]

Hazza, are you referring to the supplied hand books?

No the specification documents for Australian spec vehicles handed to me by the dealer i.e. standard equipment and cost of options etc.

[hazza1981]

Redback - did the dealer have to do it for you?

[Tombie]

Redback - did the dealer have to do it for you?

Dealers can not do it... Their software as supplied by LR is region specific and wont allow it as global closing isn't approved under ADRs...

You can enable it using 3rd party diagnostic gear like Redback said using a Faultmate or Nanocom and editing the CCF.

[Redback]

Redback, which device are you using?

Faultmate.


Redback - did the dealer have to do it for you?

Yes they did, but now cannot be done.


Dealers can not do it... Their software as supplied by LR is region specific and wont allow it as global closing isn't approved under ADRs...

You can enable it using 3rd party diagnostic gear like Redback said using a Faultmate or Nanocom and editing the CCF.

Dealers can't do it now, just got to find someone that knows how to with a diagnostic tool;)

Baz.

[Tombie]

Dealers can't do it now, just got to find someone that knows how to with a diagnostic tool;)

Baz.


Not anymore Baz.. The latest version of their files won't allow it.

[sniegy]

Wont tell the know it alls it can't be done by the dealer AGAIN.
But it can't be done.:mad:

[hazza1981]

Wont tell the know it alls it can't be done by the dealer AGAIN.
But it can't be done.:mad:

Why does the Australian Spec say then that Global Closing is standard across all models?

[Basil135]

The document you were supplied was probably written in the UK.

The CCF (Car Configuration File) that a dealer has access to, is supplied by LR. It has to conform to ADR's.

ADR's say, no global closing. Hence, the document is wrong, the dealer is right.

Yes, if someone has access to a device to change specific parts of the CCF, then they MAY be able to change it. That wont be the dealer thou.

The way it was explained to me, was that the dealers CCF is downloaded as a whole, and they are unable to just pick & choose which parts they want - to a large extent.

[LandyAndy]

The document you were supplied was probably written in the UK.

The CCF (Car Configuration File) that a dealer has access to, is supplied by LR. It has to conform to ADR's.

ADR's say, no global closing. Hence, the document is wrong, the dealer is right.

Yes, if someone has access to a device to change specific parts of the CCF, then they MAY be able to change it. That wont be the dealer thou.

The way it was explained to me, was that the dealers CCF is downloaded as a whole, and they are unable to just pick & choose which parts they want - to a large extent.

Gordon mentioned on his GOE seminar that the full on Faultmate could change things the dealer cant.He also warned not to mess with the vin number as somebody did and it rendered the vehicle unusable.Even the dealers couldnt fix it and it would have needed to return to the factory to be repaired.
WAS IT ANYBODY HERE??????
Andrew

[Basil135]

Gordon mentioned on his GOE seminar that the full on Faultmate could change things the dealer cant.He also warned not to mess with the vin number as somebody did and it rendered the vehicle unusable.Even the dealers couldnt fix it and it would have needed to return to the factory to be repaired.
WAS IT ANYBODY HERE??????
Andrew

LOL... not me :wasntme:

I am guessing that the car would have needed a new computer, programmed from the factory with the correct VIN.

Sometimes, a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing... :angel:

[Tombie]

Wont tell the know it alls it can't be done by the dealer AGAIN.

But it can't be done.:mad:


87975

Just needs Unicorn magic :)

[Basil135]

Unicorn magic???? :eek:

I have been using Pixie dust. :o

No wonder it wont work. :cool:

[hazza1981]

The document you were supplied was probably written in the UK.

The CCF (Car Configuration File) that a dealer has access to, is supplied by LR. It has to conform to ADR's.

ADR's say, no global closing. Hence, the document is wrong, the dealer is right.

Yes, if someone has access to a device to change specific parts of the CCF, then they MAY be able to change it. That wont be the dealer thou.

The way it was explained to me, was that the dealers CCF is downloaded as a whole, and they are unable to just pick & choose which parts they want - to a large extent.

Written in the UK yet has the Australian spec on it and also the Australian options costs etc?

[Tombie]

Written in the UK yet has the Australian spec on it and also the Australian options costs etc?


Email me the file please... Rovertech @ Mac.com

[LandyAndy]

LOL... not me :wasntme:

I am guessing that the car would have needed a new computer, programmed from the factory with the correct VIN.

Sometimes, a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing... :angel:

NO,it was mentioned it effected the plethora of ECUs in the vehicle and the only fix was to send the vehicle back to the factory to fix.An insurance claim was mentioned.
Andrew

[LandyAndy]

Was also mentioned Faultmate could unlock options that were built into the vehicle that were included when built but not able to be unlocked by the dealer unless it was factory ordered.Off-Road GPS was one that comes to mind,if you have factory GPS;);););););););)
Andrew

[Tombie]

Written in the UK yet has the Australian spec on it and also the Australian options costs etc?


Has global spec on it... Some options are not available in each market...

Post a pic of the cover...

[tiddy]

Dealers can not do it... Their software as supplied by LR is region specific and wont allow it as global closing isn't approved under ADRs...

You can enable it using 3rd party diagnostic gear like Redback said using a Faultmate or Nanocom and editing the CCF.

When did that ADR come into effect do you know?

[Tombie]

When did that ADR come into effect do you know?


As far as I was made aware it's been in for well over a decade...

Exemptions can be made for vehicles as always, but as its configurable they can remove it.

[discotwinturbo]

Did you have to activate it? I have an MY12 SE as well and would love this feature. My 2001 Golf GTI had it and I used it a lot for same reasons as you have described. Maybe I should read that manual!!

Nope. Factory equipped.

Brett....

[discotwinturbo]

As far as I was made aware it's been in for well over a decade... Exemptions can be made for vehicles as always, but as its configurable they can remove it.

My 2008 Touareg also has Global opening and closing.

My next car, which is a choice between two, both have Global opening and closing.....one of the first things I asked about.

I guess someone forgot to tell the ADR people lol.

Brett..

[Tombie]

Brett, you disco has it because it never received the later firmware or it would be gone.

As I stated, ADRs are often exempted For certain things on certain vehicles. Perhaps the models you're looking at have the exemption.

Like wheel spacers, or rims wider than 8"...

[discotwinturbo]

Brett, you disco has it because it never received the later firmware or it would be gone. As I stated, ADRs are often exempted For certain things on certain vehicles. Perhaps the models you're looking at have the exemption. Like wheel spacers, or rims wider than 8"...

Not sure about the Firmware as I asked the question two weeks ago....and they said all software was up to date.

Is there a way I can check the firmware in the hidden menu ?

Brett.....

[hazza1981]

It comes disabled but the dealer is activating Global Closing on the car today while it's being serviced.

[Tombie]

It comes disabled but the dealer is activating Global Closing on the car today while it's being serviced.


Not using factory diagnostics they aren't...

[Tombie]

Not sure about the Firmware as I asked the question two weeks ago....and they said all software was up to date.

Is there a way I can check the firmware in the hidden menu ?

Brett.....


I'd suggest a PM to Sniegy for that answer.

His vehicle still runs the older file too, so he has global close.

It's a handy feature for sure!

[baldivistribe]

Gosh even a friends busted bum spec mondeo has global closing and opening.
Cant see why we cant have it too.

[hazza1981]

Has global spec on it... Some options are not available in each market...

Post a pic of the cover...

Here's the page with global close on it and you can see it's the Australian version.

MY2015 is at the following link:

http://www.landrover.com.au/Images/LR9596_2015_Discovery_Specs_Sheet_300x215_Con_LR_t cm296-96761.pdf

Has global close exactly the same as the MY2014 one.

[tiddy]

As far as I was made aware it's been in for well over a decade...

Exemptions can be made for vehicles as always, but as its configurable they can remove it.

Is this then an ADR requirement to not allow global closing or an LR decision, because my wife's 2007 Renault has for the want of a better word, global closing through the proximity/remote card working on all windows.

So it seems odd that some have it, or in this case LR don't, even one of the new Skodas has rain sensing auto close windows.

Very strange.

[Tombie]

It may be LR held it back, or it may be its changed.

Or, it may be un configurable on some vehicles so just left active...

I think an email or 2 is in order :)

[Redback]

We have two VWs, a 2007 Golf(base model) and an Amarok, both have globel open and close, also our D4 was enabled about 2yrs ago, and to be honest, I don't think I've ever used it, on any of our cars, maybe once I used the close feature after working on the car one weekend, Ness using it quite a bit on her Amarok though.

I do have the steps to fix globel closing if it ever stops working, but that is readily available from LR anyway.

We had it done because it was offered to us, we would have been content without it, but when someone offers you something for nothing, hey I'm in:D

Baz.

[Redback]

We have two VWs, a 2007 Golf(base model) and an Amarok, both have globel open and close, also our D4 was enabled about 2yrs ago, and to be honest, I don't think I've ever used it, on any of our cars, maybe once I used the close feature after working on the car one weekend, Ness using it quite a bit on her Amarok though.

I do have the steps to fix globel closing if it ever stops working, but that is readily available from LR anyway.

We had it done because it was offered to us, we would have been content without it, but when someone offers you something for nothing, hey I'm in:D

Baz.

[nat_89]

We have two VWs, a 2007 Golf(base model) and an Amarok, both have globel open and close, also our D4 was enabled about 2yrs ago, and to be honest, I don't think I've ever used it, on any of our cars, maybe once I used the close feature after working on the car one weekend, Ness using it quite a bit on her Amarok though.

I do have the steps to fix globel closing if it ever stops working, but that is readily available from LR anyway.

We had it done because it was offered to us, we would have been content without it, but when someone offers you something for nothing, hey I'm in:D

Baz.

On a totally unrelated note how is your Amarok?? Is it auto or manual? And whats your thoughts so far like it?

[Redback]

On a totally unrelated note how is your Amarok?? Is it auto or manual? And whats your thoughts so far like it?

It's a manual, Ness our daughter loves it, so far it's been great, It's had one issue, the throw out bearing **** itself, which destroyed the Dual Mass Flywheel, which was dissappointing, VW were good though, all fixed under warranty, apart from that it's been excellent, it's a great car to drive.

Baz.

[Geedublya]

I got my IIDTool yesterday, activated this morning and edited the CCF to enable global closing. It works...

[nat_89]

It's a manual, Ness our daughter loves it, so far it's been great, It's had one issue, the throw out bearing **** itself, which destroyed the Dual Mass Flywheel, which was dissappointing, VW were good though, all fixed under warranty, apart from that it's been excellent, it's a great car to drive.

Baz.

Ahh thats good to hear I've read on car advice probably some trolls saying all this crap about them but i know 5 people that all have manual ones and all love them so far and some are up to 3 years old with not an issue at all. Good to hear though there certainly nice to drive.

[Canaussie]

Well I'm getting Vinnie all ready for Fraser and thought I'd try the global opening which has worked in the past, worked fine and I thought I'd give the closing a try just to see....well what do you know..works on my MY12 2.7l !

[scarry]

Well I'm getting Vinnie all ready for Fraser and thought I'd try the global opening which has worked in the past, worked fine and I thought I'd give the closing a try just to see....well what do you know..works on my MY12 2.7l !

Mine is same MY12,doesn't work....