twin wheel carrier for 2014 disco 4

[jliquorish]

Anyone know the best replacement bar and wheel carrier for TDV6 with sensors?

[Tombie]

Define best, and keep in mind the huge amount of weight you're talking about will push you quickly towards GVM...

[Geedublya]

I have the Kaymar which looks nice and strong, however if you drop onto one of the corners they do flex and the result is a broken tail light. I suspect the outback accessories bar is stronger as it has hi-lift jacking points on the corners.

[jliquorish]

Thanks guys for replies.
I have been researching bullbar, extended fuel tank and rear wheel carriers and need to seriously look at whether I really need them as the GVM could go critical.

[Fred Nerk]

I have the Frontrunner single rear wheel carrier. It is solid but light compared with the full Kaymar install. I don't have a built in long range tank which means I carry a spare in the normal place too.

I have a 50litre tank that I carry on the roof of the car or the camper when needed. It gravity feeds the main tank as required. This provides greater flexibility for me. Just a suggestion.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/04/105.jpg (http://s823.photobucket.com/user/dswatkin/media/IMGSimpson1.jpg.html)

[4evershiva]

info regarding the 50l tank and how to get the setup done?

[Redback]

I have the Kaymar which looks nice and strong, however if you drop onto one of the corners they do flex and the result is a broken tail light. I suspect the outback accessories bar is stronger as it has hi-lift jacking points on the corners.

Ours doesn't move as much anymore, Gordon at OL Kogarah beefed up the side bracket, like they do with the OL rear bar, no more broken tail lights now:)

Now in regards to weight, the rear bar is 78kg with one carrier, I worked out it is 147kg with two cariers and two spares on it, thats 23kg for each arm, 45kg for the bar and 28kg for each alloy wheel, now take 20kg off for the standard bar and brackets, 75kg for the removal of the third row seats, add 12kg for a LR Tank, and 85kg for extra fuel and you get the weight of just adding the bar and one carrier and one wheel, which is 106kg, no worse than the ball weight of a van or camper, one passenger and some gear.

Just think about the people dragging a 3500kg van with 300kg over the ball, or even a 2500kg van with 250kg over the ball, show me why this is different to adding a rear bar with 1 or 2 wheel carriers of 110kg or 150kg, cause even when I add my camper ball weight, I still don't get to 250kg extra weight.

Baz.

[Fred Nerk]

Set-up for the rooftop tank that have is pretty simple. It is actually a 60litre tank. When used, I strap it to the roof racks, there is a breather pipe on top. The drain pipe is a section of fuel rated hose and an inline valve ie a tap. I just put the hose into the main tank and open the valve. I keep the roof top tank full and only transfer to the main tank when the whole 60 litres will fit. This avoids a "sloshing" unstable roof load.
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[sniegy]

Hey Fred,
Manufacturer?
Poly or Steel?
I assume from your post that the unit does not have baffles?

I do like this idea as it is what i did last time i cross the Simpson. But with 4 10L jerry cans making a racket:(

Cheers

[Redback]

This is a great idea for those one off long trips, but what about weeping Fred, any of that, diesel is notorious for weeping from joins, no matter how tight the clamp is.

Oh Pete, we did the Simpson in 05, we met a couple in a Range Rover Vouge on 20s, he had 10, 10Litre jerrys on the roof, 5 on each side:D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/bazzar/Simpson%20Desert%202005/DSC06018_zpscpnqavnw.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/bazzar/media/Simpson%20Desert%202005/DSC06018_zpscpnqavnw.jpg.html)

Baz.

[Fred Nerk]

@ Sniegy. The tank is a rigid Poly and is pretty robust. I can't be sure who makes them, but Rich in another thread found them and provided these links. It is the same tank that gghaggis has a pair of in the back of his RRS.

Poly Fuel Tank 55Lt Univ Fit - Dolium Pty Ltd (http://www.dolium.com.au/view?command=cman_view_webpage&webpage_id=120&pkey=dolium&inp_item_id=FTU55P)
or
BOAB Solutions — 55lt Universal Fuel Tank (http://www.boabsolutions.com.au/collections/fuel-tanks/products/55lt-universal-fuel-tank)


There are no baffles, but it is pretty straight forward to keep the tank full or empty. I have not had any experience with a half full tank. It just seems sensible not to have fuel "sloshing about"


@ Redback. I was concerned at first about weeping fuel. But there has been none at all. I have raised the breather on a flexible pipe and it is capped by a porous stone which is supplied with the tank. The breather hose can be seen in the first picture). It doesn't even attract dust. I have a bolt that fits snuggly in the end of the drainage hose to keep the dust out of the hose when it is not in use. No joins or seams have any sign of weeping.


I might add; To fill the tank I just let the console operator know what I'm up to and then stand on the open lower tailgate to fill the tank direct from the bowser. I ensure the tank is earthed and diesel is safer than petrol so no-one has ever been concerned when I fill up. This method is a lot better than dealing with jerry cans.

[LRD414]

So does it come with an earth strap? Or did you make something up? Is earthed to the roof rack sufficient?

Also, is the raised breather just to get clear of dust?

Scott

[SimmAus]

I'm also looking at temp storage for diesel...found the following fleabay site http://stores.ebay.com.au/ballistic4x4?_trksid=p2047675.l2563 They seem to offer many different sizes and types.(some that can fit behind drivers seat in 2nd row footwell..
Cheers Mark

[Fred Nerk]

So does it come with an earth strap? Or did you make something up? Is earthed to the roof rack sufficient?

Also, is the raised breather just to get clear of dust?

Scott



I have earthed to the roof rack and then it is earthed through the car in the same way as the main tank.


The raised breather is to try to keep the diesel from reaching the breather filter/porous stone. It creates a column/pressure head that even when crossing the Simpson did not weep. May not be necessary, but it was easy to do and seemed a reasonable idea at the time.