Engine light bendigo

[Jturton]

Hi all,
Engine light (red exclamation mark) in our 2010 disco 4 came on not far from home. Have limped home to Bendigo, RACV didn't have a scan tool but have offered 50km of towing, 100km it we upgrade. Tips as to which leocal mechanic vs getting it to melbourne (? Reputable dealer) to be looked at/fixed? I think I recall an independent being somewhere in country VIC between Bendigo and melbourne but can't remember where.
Cheers in advance,
J

[d2dave]

There was one in Romsey but the owner fell off the perch a couple of years back. Not sure if it is still operating.

Just did a search and it looks like it is. A lot of the smaller places tend to close down for Christmas new year.

https://www.servautogroup.com.au/searchdetail.php?id=341297&from=flash

[Graeme]

Have you restarted the engine as sometimes such faults are only temporary? It may clear then re-appear later though.

[Geoffd2]

I rang a mate who lives in Bendigo and owns a 06 Disco, He uses Gejay automotive, 4 Milroy st, Bendigo, 5443 7188

[roverv8]

Bendigo Mazda are also "agents" for Landrover, Ive sourced a few genuine parts from there.
Not sure what scan tool equip they have but it could be worth a call if you are stuck Monday.
Good luck

[Homestar]

There was one in Romsey but the owner fell off the perch a couple of years back. Not sure if it is still operating.

Just did a search and it looks like it is. A lot of the smaller places tend to close down for Christmas new year.

https://www.servautogroup.com.au/searchdetail.php?id=341297&from=flash

Ray's Partner Dan is still operating at Romsey. 5429 5021. They are at 11 Park. Lane Romsey.

[Jturton]

Thanks to all for the help flowing in, especially for calls being made to brothers specifically to try to help.
Tried to hook it up to my brother in laws diagnostic machine - but its a VW/Audi one and didn't pick up the error.
Have definitely turned the engine on and off a few times - its definitely a pretty hard-core code and says 'Engine systems failure' on the display (sounds ominous).
I think I'll go somewhere local and RACV can foot the towing bill - though I'll look up these Romsey guys too.
If anyone has a diagnositic scanner in the area I'd love to borrow it :cool: (a six-pack of your fave would be a minimum repayment) as a lot of these local mechanics don't go back til the 5th regardless of who I choose...
Thanks again.

[90 Rangie]

I would at least try a hard reset.
Open bonnet turn car off remove key wait for the car to go to sleep remove battery terminals and join them together (may need a screw driver for this) wait a minute then put back on battery and see if fault has gone.
If you have aux battery make sure it also has negative lead removed before touching terminals together.
Will be hard fault if this does not work.
Also check brake light bulbs and brake light switch.
Good luck https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/12/13.jpg

[90 Rangie]

How did you go J did you fix and how if you did ?

[Jturton]

Hi, sorry for the lack of feedback.
In fact I've done nothing yet! Car is still in the garage.
My last problem like this resulted in a simple but costly mass airflow sensor needing replacement. At $515 I couldn't help but wish I'd bought a scanner and replaced it myself.
So.. My brother in law has ordered a scanner, which arrives tomorrow. Will let you know how it goes.
If we can't fix, I've decided to call the Mazda dealer here which also apparantly is an official service agent. I've had several things go wrong with this car since owning it for 4 months so feel it's time for an official agent to have a look.. Might help if i then need to talk to Land Rover australia about why a 2010 vehicle seems to be costing me $500 every couple of months.. We do have 'fit for purpose' laws in this country...
Will keep you posted

[Graeme]

Which engine does it have? The 3.0 has a vacuum operated valve in the inlet for the secondary turbo whose lever can jam from grit between the lever and the valve body. This is quite easy to clear once you know how to do it.

Does the engine seem to have reduced power? Some faults don't trigger reduced power mode even when a message says otherwise.

If a 3.0, were you towing using cruise control at highway speeds on hills? If yes then it may need an ECM software update as early 3.0s had a bug that LR didn't think it necessary to ensure that all vehicles were updated.

What code reader has been purchased? If a generic one then it probably wont help.

[matt_ali_walsh]

I stopped using Bendigo Mazda a few years back - the Land Rover head mechanic had moved into the office, and the workshop just kept turning out sub standard work. For me the rot started with it taking six weeks to do my D2 clutch, and a heap of issues after. In Bendigo Neville Briggs is very good, but I don't know what diagnostic gear he has. We are in Kyabram and take our D3 to Albury - the guys at Blacklocks are great.....

[Jturton]

Thanks guys.
Well the scanner hasn't arrived. It's a cheap generic scanner so perhapse won't help by the sounds.?..
The car is a 2010 D4 HSE so the 3.0.. Interested in this issue of grit Graeme. Youtube?
No, I wasn't towing, just accelerating and at about 90km/hr, turbo probably active, power dropped and light came on. Message reads 'engine systems failure'. It doesn't specifically say that it's restricted performance, and I havnt been game to start it (is it safe?) since bringing it home on the day it happened. Havn't even been game to try the hard reset tho I probably need to man up and give that a go!
Have gone off Bendigo Mazda- thanks for the advice- might try my local bloke ben Doherty, or Neville Briggs perhaps on that advice.
Racv only gets me 100km of towing so cant get it to a 'real' dealer..

[benji]

I've got a nanocom with the canbus function on it. It's supposed to work on all vehicles with the can bus system.
We can try it out this arvo of you like?
I'm in Bendigo.

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[Graeme]

Try restarting it for sure. If the fault is permanent then the message will still be displayed. Its not as though you're going to be driving it foot to the floor and even if you tried, engine management wont allow it without all sensors and plausibility algorithms indicating that there is no longer a fault.

Unfortunately the AULRO gallery isn't currently operational as I posted some pictures of the inlet isolation valve whose lever can stick although I more suspect the ecm software fault from your descriptions.

[benji]

Could it be a stuck egr valve?
It seems the fault occurred whilst under load when the motor had just got up to temperature.
Also, do those intercooler hoses tend to delaminate?

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[Jturton]

So..
Thanks Benji for the attempted scan and brainstorm.
car towed by Racv 100km to romsey where Daniel was very helpful.
Daniel has cleared the code and did some investigation for only a small charge, and I've done 150kms today with no repeat, touch wood.
Apparantly the codes were:
- Id run it out of fuel recently (not true, tho we did get close recently, sat down to 30km left. Fill up was still several liters off the stated tank capacity).
- engine ECU memory error - cause unknown.
Daniel said if it happens again, I may be looking at a new engine ecu, approx quote $1500 including latest software, plus labor.
Any comments appreciated (Grahame, is this still consistant with your theory? Should I take it down to a dealer to get a preventative software upgrade perhapse?
Thanks again to all

[Graeme]

- engine ECU memory error - cause unknown.
IMO definitely worth ensuring that the ecm s/w is at the latest level.

[Jturton]

IMO definitely worth ensuring that the ecm s/w is at the latest level.

Okay ta. Will call ULR

[Nicky]

Hi, sorry for the lack of feedback.

So.. My brother in law has ordered a scanner, which arrives tomorrow. Will let you know how it goes.
If we can't fix, I've decided to call .......
Will keep you posted

Which scanner?

[Jturton]

Some cheap Bluetooth scanner.. Not sure.
I'm looking at the IID Tool - DA6406 at$610, or the
Terrafirma - TF930 = $299 at the moment. Any comments?