Westlake SL369

[lebanon]

I have been offered a set of 5 Westlake SL369 in 235/85/16 size for 600 USD.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/01/1230.jpg

SL369 (http://www.westlaketire.com/en/trucks-light-truck-radial-tires/335-sl369)

- Auto Tyres by Pattern - * 4WD Tyres - All Terrain (A/T) - Goodride SL369 - Vicky Sun Tyres (http://www.vickysuntyres.com.au/goodride-sl369-4WD/)

The agent has put them on sale because this size is not much used here.

Has anyone had them or could give an opinion?

[Dopey]

$600 US equates to approx $741.00 AUS..
That equals about AUS $148.00 per tyre.

Personally, I would not be comfortable with them based both on the price and the fact that they are made in China.

I know a lot of products from other Oriental countries has improved a lot over the last few years, but "Chinese quality" is something I would not not risk even at that cheap price.

I am sure there are other choices with a proven capability and background that maybe you would be safer with, just at a probably slightly higher price.

Regards,
Mike.

[oldyella 76]

I can't offer any advice on 4x4 tyres from China but There are a lot of Chinese truck tyres around and although I don't have any on my trucks people seem to have a good run out of them considering the price. They are normally used on local delivery and farmers trucks only with the long haul still using the usual.
Given that here in Australia there are no local tyre makers now and they are all imported, a lot come from Korea.
Regards Lindsay.

[redrovertdi]

Im on my 3rd set of chinese tyres and very happy, currently running xmt mudder buckshot 265/75/16, $750 for 4 fitted, currently done 58,000 ks[purchased August 23 2013 at 428,800ks- now 486,927] and been fantastic[not a puncture and my 110 is not a brand name show pony that gets polished], still got approx 8mm tread left and i will be replacing with the same when they wear out, yesterday 4 of the land rovers in our group[2 discos/1x county and my defender] 4wd-ing at duck creek rd were on the same chinese tyres
Many brand name tyres are also chinese made
I cant comment on the particular brand you speak of but i will comment against the attitude of all chinese stuff is rubbish. It wasnt all that long ago that any thing japanese was classed as jap crap
Just my 2c from somebody actually using the product
Richard

[towe0609]

I picked up 2 of these basically new off eBay for $60 each and have them on the front of my 130. Only just put them on though so cannot comment on wear rate and I've really only rolled up and down the highway since fiting them. Not noisy and handling seems ok.... Not regretting my purchase ..... Yet

[3rdy]

All,


I run these on my work car... Tojo Prado... :(
I have had them on for 40k so far and not had any failures... Majority of the running has been on dirt roads in the Pilbara and on multiple mine sites... they are wearing no differently to a set of Coopers on a similar car within my team...
I probably have about 15k - 20k left before I change them out (could get possible 30K, but not on these roads!)


Guys with all tyres is showing them the love... correct pressure & regular rotations...


Food for thought!

[LandyAndy]

I can't offer any advice on 4x4 tyres from China but There are a lot of Chinese truck tyres around and although I don't have any on my trucks people seem to have a good run out of them considering the price. They are normally used on local delivery and farmers trucks only with the long haul still using the usual.
Given that here in Australia there are no local tyre makers now and they are all imported, a lot come from Korea.
Regards Lindsay.

We have tried cheap chinese tyres on our trucks at work.No failures as such.They dont work out cost effective as they wear much faster than a Kuhmo/Bridgestone/Michelin in the same application.Long haul with no screwing around on bitumen roads/gravel pits and unsealed roads may see the mileage improve.
Andrew

[lebanon]

My true concern is when I read infos like these

4 Tire Companies to Avoid - CarsDirect (http://www.carsdirect.com/car-repair/4-tire-companies-to-avoid)

Tires made in China recalled By (http://www.china-recalls.com/tires.htm)

An old video found on the tube
http://youtu.be/e6KhurPekow

All these problems could have been addressed by now.

[gromit]

Interesting to read in one of the links that Cooper Tire & Rubber recalled 288,000 passenger tyres made by Hangzhou Zhongce for them.

Colin

[lebanon]

Went to the supplier, he offered me for the same price the CR857 instead of the SL369

http://tcsparts.tcsgeeks.com/wp_cache_images/view/Product/74596/true/74596.jpg

I like the design of this tir, it has a similar design to the BFG Trac Edge that I liked much. A centeral line of rubber blocks for a good ride on paved roads and decent shoulder cleats for auto cleaning and increased biting when off-road.

So CR857 or SL369? that is the question.

[3rdy]

so Ive taken a couple of pics to give you and understanding on the difference of wear on the Coopers Discovery A/T vs Westlake SL369...

Remembering these are on a Prado, driven on majority Pilbara dirt roads and mine sites...

On my 90... I have BF Goodrich!

[lebanon]

so Ive taken a couple of pics to give you and understanding on the difference of wear on the Coopers Discovery A/T vs Westlake SL369...

Remembering these are on a Prado, driven on majority Pilbara dirt roads and mine sites...

On my 90... I have BF Goodrich!

Thank you 3rdy,

A picture is worth a thousand word.

I am seeing well or is it an illusion that the Westlake is wearing better that the Cooper?

[3rdy]

have a couple more millimetres of tread, but started with more to begin with... they are showing more signs of tread edge deterioration, But I also believe they are a harder compound. So while they look ugly, Id say they have very similar wear attributes.... if you look close at the SL369's, they have a smaller tread edge deterioration.

[Wicks89]

You dont always get what you pay for, with any brand. Very good mate of mine has STT's on his FJ and they're nearly bald after, at most, 30,000 ks. Been rotated frequently, he can be slack with the pressures but if anything not deflating for the odd squirt offroad. So theres chipping but thats more his fault than the tyres'.

Such a disappointing wear rate! Definitely not going near them.

I run KM2's got about 50,000 at least so far and they're wearing much better still got heaps of tread. Ran the old-pattern Cooper ST's before that and got about 100,000 out of them no worries.

Give the chinese muddies a punt if you like the pattern.

[spudfan]

Vicky Sun Tyres - About Goodride Tyres (http://www.vickysuntyres.com.au/about-goodride-tyres/)
I have a set of SL 369 tyres on a 2.25 diesel LR 88. Hav'nt done much miles but they've been fine so far, including stopping on wet roads. Don't know what stopping would be like in the wet at 60 or 70 mph but it is fine in the LR 88 which has a lower top speed
Off the mainroad they've been fine, even on tick over. Don't think they'd be good in sand, just dig themselves in. Don't know about bumper deep mud but they've been fine in tyre depth where they have bitten down to the hard underneath. I know someone else who has them on a working farm TD5 90 who has no complaints. The last tyres on the LR 88 were replaced due to age, not wear so I'd expect these to be the same.
Hav'nt had to air them down so I can't comment on this.
So to sum up...good so far, does what I got them for but I don't know how far you could push them. You could probably get a "name" brand for a little more, so they are not a bargain basement job.
I'll post an update when I'm changing them on the LR 88 in 2026....

[lebanon]

After a year of using the CR857.

On dry pavement, they are good with a marked rumbling sound when comming to a stop, maybe this is due to the fact that the shoulders haven't broke-in yet.

On wet pavement, the situation degrades drastically. I faced a pronounced understeer on a couple of occasions even though I was driving at around 40 KPH could it be due to the fact that the tires were still new?

Off-road, the behavior is excellent, good traction on dirt roads, no lateral movement in inclines, will try them on mud soon as spring is settelling down early this year.

On snow, I tried them once as I didn't have confidence in them after their performance in the wet. I can't give an opinion as I was driving slowly and precociously.