Remove OE radio from PUMA

[spudboy]

I've read a few threads here about removing the dash from a PUMA, and they all say, "I got the radio out easily....". But buggered if I can get mine to budge a millimetre :(

I have inserted the "nail" end of 4 long rivets down the holes at the front (my usual way of tackling this type of extraction) and whilst I can feel them pressing something down there, the radio is not budging.

More force required? Need something longer than rivets? Special tool required?

Thanks
David

[alien]

From recent experience I found there is a rubber over a stud at the rear that fits very tightly in its socket.
I found removing the larger surround(as I was researching later switch additions) made the radio easier to remove.
To fit the cage for the new Sony I had to remove the 2 OE radio clips on each side.
The rest was just plug and play making this a simpler job.

[defender_i_hardly_know_er]

You can just remove those two torx screws to take that whole fascia off (then pry gently around the edge). Then once you've moved it forward a bit you can unclick the stereo.

[spudboy]

I have removed these 2 big Torx screws, but nothing really budges. Do I need to get a lever onto it to pry the fascia out? Seems like I might break some little plastic tabs etc it I lever too hard.

Pry from the bottom or the top of the fascia?

[defender_i_hardly_know_er]

It's been a while but from memory I pried around the bottom right side. There are clips and you will need a lever like a thin metal ruler or something.

Just keep probing until you find a spot where it gives a little and work from there.

Oh and if there are any knobs or something for the AC that won't clear pull them off too.

[ozy013]

I had to replace a faulty fog light switch last week. As mentioned there are 4 clips on the front fascia, 2 either side, top and bottom. I started low and worked right to left. They hold on pretty tight, and let go with a descent pop. But they seem quite robust, I used a trim removal tool, which I bought awhile ago to sort out the headlining.

All the knobs seem to clear, there is a small nut holding the headlight adjustment knob on, which I removed. But in hindsight it could've stayed on as the wiring is sufficiently long enough to allow access.

My radio is an aftermarket Pioneer, and seems to slide in and out with ease, just release the clips in the cradle.

Cheers, Ian.

[Loubrey]

Just pop to your local motor factor (Super cheap, Auto One etc) and buy a set of plastic trim tools (made with nylon) for $15.00... Save scratching your facia or panels plus you safe the little clips which at $1.45 ea from Land Rover will very quickly make up the price of the tools.

On a Puma they're definitely a good investment! :-)

Cheers,

Lou

[spudboy]

Thanks for everyone's suggestions.

My new radio is in and working!! Finally got the radio out with gentle prying from left and right sides with some bicycle tyre levers (still with the rivets in the 4 holes).

Once I got the old one out, it was about 5 minutes to fit the new one.

And if anyone wants a brilliant replacement unit, go and get yourself a FUSION ML650BT. On special at the moment in Super Cheap for $98 (down from $150).

Plays music from an SD card, or USB stick. Hands free phone. Ipod connectivity. Bluetooth. How do they do it for $98????

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/01/999.jpg

[VladTepes]

What a bloody bargain !

You don't happen to know what dimensions a DIN radio is do you (just doing some calculations withmy dash console...)

[spudboy]

This is from Wikipedia:

International standard ISO 7736 defines a standard size for car audio head units and enclosures. The standard was originally established by the German standards body Deutsches Institut f?r Normung as DIN 75490, and is therefore commonly referred to as the "DIN car radio size". It was adopted as an international standard in 1984.

Head units generally come in either single DIN (180 x 50 mm panel) or double DIN (180 x 100 mm panel) size.

[skidrov]

Once I got the old one out, it was about 5 minutes to fit the new one.



Sounds interesting! I think I can see the answer implied in the extract I quote above, but if I may ask: I gather it's plug-and-play, i.e. whatever standards the cabling of the factory radio is set up for are the same as the replacement unit? So you unplug old, plug in new, and away you go? And you don't need any sort of adaptor lead in the middle?

I note that Mud sell an adaptor lead (including a variant for the Puma) and I am wondering what sort of installs that would be needed for. Not here?

[VladTepes]

This is from Wikipedia:


Head units generally come in either single DIN (180 x 50 mm panel) or double DIN (180 x 100 mm panel) size.

Fascia size isnt the issue its the depoth I need to know but.


By the way what are you doing with your old radio?

[neophyteguy]

Vlad,
I just installed a double din fascia and Alpin double din unit in my My 15 Puma. The Alpine is pretty deep!

Also, I've got the Alpine that came out of my wagon if you're interested.

Cheers,
Neo

[Loubrey]

Is that a Land Rover branded Alpine seeing as it came out of a brand new car...?

Cheers,

Lou

[defender_i_hardly_know_er]

Sounds interesting! I think I can see the answer implied in the extract I quote above, but if I may ask: I gather it's plug-and-play, i.e. whatever standards the cabling of the factory radio is set up for are the same as the replacement unit? So you unplug old, plug in new, and away you go? And you don't need any sort of adaptor lead in the middle?

I note that Mud sell an adaptor lead (including a variant for the Puma) and I am wondering what sort of installs that would be needed for. Not here?

I have a 2012 and didn't need an adapter - both the car and head unit use ISO standard.

[VladTepes]

The bugger of it is that I I got an ICOM UHF and its deeper than I expected. I was hoping to fit a DIN radio plus a UHF in the mud console - which would have worked fine with a GME, but the ICOM is deeper. Bugger I've already had all the electrical wiring and UHF aerial cabling wired in....... now what....


Sigh

[spudboy]

Sounds interesting! I think I can see the answer implied in the extract I quote above, but if I may ask: I gather it's plug-and-play, i.e. whatever standards the cabling of the factory radio is set up for are the same as the replacement unit? So you unplug old, plug in new, and away you go? And you don't need any sort of adaptor lead in the middle?

I note that Mud sell an adaptor lead (including a variant for the Puma) and I am wondering what sort of installs that would be needed for. Not here?

You don't need any adaptors or anything. Unplug the original radio. Plug in the new radio. Turn it on & listen!! Well, that's how it was with the FUSION.

Seriously - it is the easiest job in the world once you've managed to get the old radio out.

[spudboy]

Fascia size isnt the issue its the depoth I need to know but.


By the way what are you doing with your old radio?

It's in a box in my loft and I'll probably re-discover it in 5 years time and wonder why I didn't put it on eBay when I first pulled it out!!