66 series 2 restored spotted.

[Gillie]

Thought you all might like to see this gem spotted in Bright over the Xmas holidays. Apparently it was originally from Grafton or that area. It was fully restored after being handed down in the family and is a bit of a family heirloom. It was two guys (possibly brothers) in Grafton that restored it back to factory specs. The vehicle resides in Wandiligong now. The vehicle was not for sale. What sort of dollars do these command in this condition?
Enjoy
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[reachjatt]

Priceless:)

[sisyphus]

It"s a beauty alright and great to see it being used.The tan coloured seats was that an Australian addition ? I need to replace mine and only have seen black or a deep green.

[mick88]

It"s a beauty alright and great to see it being used.The tan coloured seats was that an Australian addition ? I need to replace mine and only have seen black or a deep green.


Tan seams common in the series 2 & 2a's that I have, assuming they are the original seats. However there is also grey, light and dark green and black. Light green seems common in series 3's. I am not sure if there was a colour specific to model or model variant.
There will be others who will have a better idea about this.


Cheers, Mick.

[JDNSW]

Grey seems to have been standard in Australia for the 2a, and tan for Series 3, but as stated, other colours were supplied.

John

[Lotz-A-Landies]

Seems a little hybrid to me. It has the early steering wheel and instrument panel but has the later cable wipers and matching screen.

The tan seats were SIII.

[firsttracks]

Looks fantastic, would love to have one. Great that's its being driven.

[S3ute]

Hello from Brisbane.

Both the 1968 S2A SWB and 1972 2A LWB that I once owned came new with the tan seats, as does my present 1975 S3 SWB and a new (at the time) 1980 S3 SWB that my work group once owned.

Cheers,

[sisyphus]

Hello from Brisbane.

Both the 1968 S2A SWB and 1972 2A LWB that I once owned came new with the tan seats, as does my present 1975 S3 SWB and a new (at the time) 1980 S3 SWB that my work group once owned.

Cheers,

Thanks , it would appear that tan sets were a common fit here,actually I don't mind the look of them either they fit in well with the overall scheme !
Geez I"m starting sound like a interior designer:(

[russellrovers]

Thought you all might like to see this gem spotted in Bright over the Xmas holidays. Apparently it was originally from Grafton or that area. It was fully restored after being handed down in the family and is a bit of a family heirloom. It was two guys (possibly brothers) in Grafton that restored it back to factory specs. The vehicle resides in Wandiligong now. The vehicle was not for sale. What sort of dollars do these command in this condition?
Enjoy
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/01/710.jpg (http://s476.photobucket.com/user/zx12rzx12r/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0688_zpsq5fqyzye.jpg.html)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/01/711.jpg (http://s476.photobucket.com/user/zx12rzx12r/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0691_zpsdyou9vcq.jpg.html)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/01/712.jpg (http://s476.photobucket.com/user/zx12rzx12r/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0690_zpshht0ajdr.jpg.html)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/01/713.jpg (http://s476.photobucket.com/user/zx12rzx12r/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0687_zps7ndkoehv.jpg.html)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/01/714.jpg (http://s476.photobucket.com/user/zx12rzx12r/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0692_zpsevyhbmsf.jpg.html)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/01/715.jpg (http://s476.photobucket.com/user/zx12rzx12r/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0693_zps4zikprkx.jpg.html)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2015/01/716.jpg (http://s476.photobucket.com/user/zx12rzx12r/media/Mobile%20Uploads/DSC_0689_zpsxg2ylgei.jpg.html)hi its a 2a if it was a s2 lot more dollors

[Gillie]

hi its a 2a if it was a s2 lot more dollors

How can you tell?. What is the difference? And why are the series 2 worth more?

[JDNSW]

How can you tell?. What is the difference? And why are the series 2 worth more?

There is no easily seen difference between a Series 2 and Series 2a apart from the chassis number. Change was continuous from the introduction of the Series 2 in 1958 (indeed from the introduction of the Landrover in 1948!), and the only difference between the Series 2 and 2a was the addition of a suffix letter to the chassis number when the diesel was enlarged to 2.25l. And after more than fifty years, the interchangeability of parts means that very, very, few Series 2 or 2a retain all the same parts they left the factory with. For example, as pointed out, this example has cable wipers - which means they are either non-original or it is 1967 or later, not 1966.

In theory at least, an original Series 2 would be worth more than a 2a, simply because there were far fewer made, but I very much doubt whether the difference is significant, except for special examples, such as the first swb Series 2, which retained the two litre Series 1 engine, and even then the difference in value is going to be more a function of originality than anything else.

John

[mick88]

There is no easily seen difference between a Series 2 and Series 2a apart from the chassis number. Change was continuous from the introduction of the Series 2 in 1958 (indeed from the introduction of the Landrover in 1948!), and the only difference between the Series 2 and 2a was the addition of a suffix letter to the chassis number when the diesel was enlarged to 2.25l. And after more than fifty years, the interchangeability of parts means that very, very, few Series 2 or 2a retain all the same parts they left the factory with. For example, as pointed out, this example has cable wipers - which means they are either non-original or it is 1967 or later, not 1966.

In theory at least, an original Series 2 would be worth more than a 2a, simply because there were far fewer made, but I very much doubt whether the difference is significant, except for special examples, such as the first swb Series 2, which retained the two litre Series 1 engine, and even then the difference in value is going to be more a function of originality than anything else.

John




John,
what are the external differences between the 2 and 2.25 litre engines?
Are the 2 litres easily identified? Were they a side/overhead valve engine like the 1.6 litre?


Cheers, Mick.

[JDNSW]

John,
what are the external differences between the 2 and 2.25 litre engines?
Are the 2 litres easily identified? Were they a side/overhead valve engine like the 1.6 litre?


Cheers, Mick.

First, are you talking about diesel or petrol?

The petrol 2l fitted to the first swb Series 2 looks very similar to the Series 1 1.6 and 2l engines, and is, in fact, identical to the late S1 engine.

The 2l diesel engine is essentially the same as the 2.25l, but with a smaller bore and wet sleeves. As such it looks very similar, and the differences in external appearances are limited pretty much to accessories - which, of course, may be swapped. But assuming that the accessories are original, perhaps the most distinctive difference with the 2l engine is the cartridge type fuel filter on the front RH side of the engine - the 2.25 only has filters on the bulkhead, and they are the CAV type.

John

[mick88]

First, are you talking about diesel or petrol?

The petrol 2l fitted to the first swb Series 2 looks very similar to the Series 1 1.6 and 2l engines, and is, in fact, identical to the late S1 engine.

The 2l diesel engine is essentially the same as the 2.25l, but with a smaller bore and wet sleeves. As such it looks very similar, and the differences in external appearances are limited pretty much to accessories - which, of course, may be swapped. But assuming that the accessories are original, perhaps the most distinctive difference with the 2l engine is the cartridge type fuel filter on the front RH side of the engine - the 2.25 only has filters on the bulkhead, and they are the CAV type.

John


Thanks John,
I was refering to petrol engines.


Cheers, Mick.

[JDNSW]

Thanks John,
I was refering to petrol engines.


Cheers, Mick.

Very easy then for petrol - 2l has intake and exhaust manifolds on opposite sides, 2.25l has them on the same side.

John

[Pickles2]

There is no easily seen difference between a Series 2 and Series 2a apart from the chassis number. Change was continuous from the introduction of the Series 2 in 1958 (indeed from the introduction of the Landrover in 1948!), and the only difference between the Series 2 and 2a was the addition of a suffix letter to the chassis number when the diesel was enlarged to 2.25l. And after more than fifty years, the interchangeability of parts means that very, very, few Series 2 or 2a retain all the same parts they left the factory with. For example, as pointed out, this example has cable wipers - which means they are either non-original or it is 1967 or later, not 1966.

In theory at least, an original Series 2 would be worth more than a 2a, simply because there were far fewer made, but I very much doubt whether the difference is significant, except for special examples, such as the first swb Series 2, which retained the two litre Series 1 engine, and even then the difference in value is going to be more a function of originality than anything else.

John
Fantastic knowledge there. How many years have you been involved with Landrovers?
Good to have this sort of stuff available.
Very good. Pickles.

[JDNSW]

Fantastic knowledge there. How many years have you been involved with Landrovers?
Good to have this sort of stuff available.
Very good. Pickles.

My first involvement with Landrovers was on a uni vac job at the BMR in 1959-60 when I drove and did daily servicing on several Series 1. I bought my first one in 1962, but did not own one (although used them occasionally for work) 1969-1991. In 1991 I bought my current 2a, and my current County in 1993.

John

[grey_ghost]

Hi John,

Would I be correct in saying (assuming that the Landy in question has not had any parts changed) - if the headlights are in the wings, then it has to be a 2A?

If the headlights are in the grill - then it has to be a 2?

Just wondering because I know that making a definitive answer is always tricky...

Cheers,
Grey Ghost

[S3ute]

Hi John,

Would I be correct in saying (assuming that the Landy in question has not had any parts changed) - if the headlights are in the wings, then it has to be a 2A?

If the headlights are in the grill - then it has to be a 2?

Just wondering because I know that making a definitive answer is always tricky...

Cheers,
Grey Ghost


Hello from Surabaya,

Not wanting to jump the gun on John particularly, but the A has nothing to do the the headlight positions, they were already 2As by the time the lights migrated to the guards, generally to meet German and US rules - just coincided with an engine upgrade back in time.

Cheers,

[S3ute]

For example, as pointed out, this example has cable wipers - which means they are either non-original or it is 1967 or later, not 1966.
John

Hello again from Surabaya,

For the reasons John has stated (changeability of parts with time etc) it could be any age or a hybrid.

Were it to be largely original, then it is unlikely to be 1968 or later - by then they had a steering wheel without the multiple steel spokes, a grille largely composed of horizontal bars, Rover Australia badge front and rear, and limestone painted wheels and possibly larger rear taillights.

The 1968 2A SWB that I owned many moons ago when it was new did anyway.

Cheers,

[JDNSW]

Actually I favour that it really is a 1966 model, converted to cable wipers. It has the combined light/ignition switch, earlier steering wheel, earlier steering column support etc, but as all of these bits can be interchanged, only the chassis number will be definitive.

John

[JDNSW]

Hi John,

Would I be correct in saying (assuming that the Landy in question has not had any parts changed) - if the headlights are in the wings, then it has to be a 2A?

If the headlights are in the grill - then it has to be a 2?

Just wondering because I know that making a definitive answer is always tricky...

Cheers,
Grey Ghost

No. The change from Series 2 to 2a was in 1961, the headlight move to the mudguards was nominally in 1968, and seems to have varied anyway - my 1970 2a has them in the grille. But, assuming parts have not been changed, if the headlights are in the mudguards, then it is a 2a.

There are simply no visible changes that happened right on the 2/2a change except for the chassis number suffix and the 2.25 diesel. Some visible differences, such as the change from screw type vent adjusters happened about the time of the change, but these are still listed as 2a parts.

John

[Cobber]

Thanks for sharing that - always great to see a series out and about :BigThumb:

Judging by the oil patch in front of it, that's not the first time it's been parked there! ;) :D

[Gillie]

I did think the same but I don't think it is from this vehicle. But if you want as close to factory as possible...........:D

[Cobber]

I did think the same but I don't think it is from this vehicle. But if you want as close to factory as possible...........:DIt was a great factory feature as far as I can see ... if it's dripping it means you haven't run out ;) You don't need a gauge with a system that simple! :D