HSE seats on standard slide no electrics?

[Jazzman]

What I am trying to end up with is more comfortable front seats in my D2a. I'm not exactly sure what part of the HSE moves with electric motors.

Ideally the forward and backward section can still be moved manually like standard. But the rest is electric.
If this is not the case does anyone know if it is possible to mount the HSE seat on the standard slide? Or am i better off converting the whole lot to electric as if it came out with them.

[iPom]

Just fit the new seats, plug them in, flash the Nanocom up and Bobs yer Uncle ... Well not quite ... You'll have to fit the seat controls by either swapping out the console or carefully cutting out the openings (I did this, made a template - Take your time).

If the seats are heated, you'll also need the requisite window switch panel with the heater controls fitted.

I scored a full set of heated grey leather seats for $500, a wee bit grubby and the drivers seat edge was worn - but they came up good with a bit of TLC, they are miles ahead of the cloth seats in comfort and adjustment.

IMHO I wouldn't bother trying to change them to manual adjustment, I'm not even sure you can do it to be honest. I'm pretty sure though that some Discos were spec'd with manual adjustment leather seats.

Dave

[PhilipA]

The seats don't have slides!
They are one piece with the bases, and it is a matter of undoing the 4 bolts and putting the other seat in.
The wires and plugs are already there for power seats and seat heating so it should be plug and play, but the BCU has to be programmed to see the seats.
Hmm I don't know where the switches are , on the seats or the console?
Regards Philip A

[iPom]

They are on the console Phillip ...

[Jazzman]

Here is a good set. I reckon I know someone on this forum who owns this add...

Land Rover Discovery 2 Leather Seats TD5 V8 in Rochester, VIC | eBay (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/291360309990'ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649)

I'm not sure if i will fit in them as i'm 6 foot tall, the standard seats only just go back far enough. The electric seats don't go back as far, so I've heard.

The seats have to bolt onto something to make them move forward and backward. It looks kind of like a rack and pinon setup to me.

But I really only want the front set, trying to save $. Need it for more mods for my Cape York / Fraser Island trip. There is a very good chance the seats will end up with covers on them as my girlfriend doesn't like leather seats, but also doesn't like the comfort of the standard seats. GOOD PROBLEM TO HAVE :thumbsdown:

[ozscott]

6 foot 1 and plenty of room with leather leccy HSE seats fitted to my base model d2. Very very nice. Did centre consolen swap. Cheers

[Roverlord off road spares]

6 foot 1 and plenty of room with leather leccy HSE seats fitted to my base model d2. Very very nice. Did centre consolen swap. Cheers
Depends whether your long in the torso or legs, I'm 6'4" and long legged and the seats do not go back far enough.

[ozscott]

My mate is 6 4 and his knees are an inch from the dash on passenger side☺ in my d2...he went for a d3

[iPom]

I'm pretty sure you can reverse the seat rails on manual seats to gain another 125 - 150mm .... Not sure about the leccy ones though.

[iPom]

A wee search and ..... http://www.discoweb.org/tech.htm

It's done on a D1 but I'd be pretty confident it could be applied to a D2

[PhilipA]

I cannot understand the above posts.

I have pulled these things apart and I can assure you that my 2002 D2 has a seat that is integral with the base, and you cannot move the rails at all.

The base is also assymetric and AFAIR , would be very difficult to relocate as the mount nearest the tunnel is vertical on the front of the floor bulge.

When I fitted Recaros to mine I had to cut the seat from the base and weld rail mounts on to the rails. I was able to then give the driver's seat more travel but not a job to approach lightly.
Regards Philip A

[iPom]

Phillip, I'm not saying it can or cannot be done, I am purely putting ideas out there.

However, this a cut and paste from the Land Rover Only Forum (US)

Being 6?3″ with long legs I have always felt a little cramped in the drivers seat of my DII. There are several long trips coming up for me and I decided it was time to look into modifying the driver seat base to allow for more travel.
Looking at the motorized drive mechanism showed that it was at it's maximum travel, yet there was still room on the track for more travel towards the rear. The first obstacle was a metal stops located inside the tracks that were designed to limit seat travel. My Saber Saw with a metal cutting blade made for a quick removal of the metal piece from both tracks.
http://www.myrovers.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/seat12.jpg (http://www.myrovers.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/seat12.jpg)
The next obstacle was the drive mechanism itself. The existing mounting locations restricted seat travel to the stock limits. By relocating the anchor points for the drive mechanism I could customize the travel to my needs. To test my concept I cut two 9″ pieces of aluminum stock and made holes in one end to fit the drive mechanism's mounting bolt and a 1/4″ hole at the other end to attach to an existing hole on the seat base.
http://www.myrovers.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/seat31-400x300.jpg (http://www.myrovers.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/seat31.jpg)
I attached the bracket to the seat drive mechanism and to an unused hole in the seat frame with a 1/4″ grade 8 bolt and lock nut. I used steel stock and grade 8 hardware for the finished modification as this bracket is holding the seat in place and should be as strong as practical.
http://www.myrovers.com/Photos/Previous%20Rovers/2001%20DII/Custom%20Mods/DII%20Seat%20Mod/slides/seat2.jpg
Here you can see the position of the seat at it's original maximun travel location.
http://www.myrovers.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/seat5-400x300.jpg (http://www.myrovers.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/seat5.jpg)
This is the seat at it's new maximum travel position after installing the two new brackets.
http://www.myrovers.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/seat6-400x300.jpg (http://www.myrovers.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/seat6.jpg)
As you can see there is a drastic increase in the rearward travel of the seat allowing for ample leg room. In fact I can move the seat back to a point where I can just barely reach the pedals and steering wheel.
This modification took about an hour and required the following items.
2ea. 1″ x 9″ metal stock
2ea. 1/4-20 bolts with lock nuts
Hand Drill with 1/4″ and 25/64″ bits
#8 metric hex wrench
Sabre Saw with metal cutting blade


Dave

[PhilipA]

OK my bad as Xgens say.
I didn't follow the link as it was posted incorrectly.
But you have to ask yourself why they did that. Perhaps the motor gear is very near the end of its travel.
In any case , how is the seat to be moved if the electrics are not connected? Do they have a manual lever?
I was thinking it would not be too hard to add the controls as the switches usually go to earth and the harness is powered all the time. Maybe the poster can have a look at RAVE.
Regards Philip A

[iPom]

No worries Phillip. As i said before, I'm just pushing ideas for solutions to the problem of extra tall drivers and D2's.

Thanks for all your input, it is always appreciated.

Dave

[iPom]

You were right Phillip ... I did make an error in the link....fixed now.

Dave

[ozscott]

I saw the original thread on that site. I may have misread it but when i looked at my electric seats i thought the mod might nake them a bit unsafe potentially in a rear end collision?

Cheers

[iPom]

Quite possibly Ozscott, I'm glad I'm relatively dwarfish at 5'10 and a half and don't have to do the mod :D

[Jazzman]

Thanks for the input. I'll look into it a little further. I'm going to have to do something.

[iPom]

Jazzman, let us know how you get on mate.

[Jazzman]

Jazzman, let us know how you get on mate.

Will do.

[Jazzman]

It is possible. Check out this add

2004 Land Rover Discovery Td5 03MY (http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-Discovery-2004/SSE-AD-3240305/?Cr=5)

[Roverlord off road spares]

It is possible. Check out this add

2004 Land Rover Discovery Td5 03MY (http://www.carsales.com.au/private/details/Land-Rover-Discovery-2004/SSE-AD-3240305/?Cr=5)
What are you asking Shane???
I looked at the ad. The seats have no electrics, there are no electric seat controls on the centre console near the seat belt stalk.
The seats are probably standard D2 seats but with leather covering instead of Fabric.

[Jazzman]

What are you asking Shane???
I looked at the ad. The seats have no electrics, there are no electric seat controls on the centre console near the seat belt stalk.
The seats are probably standard D2 seats but with leather covering instead of Fabric.

It is more or less what I was trying to achieve, the assumption of course is they are just like the leather seats apposed to simple leather covers. The HSE seats have the arm rest which these don't have.

[Roverlord off road spares]

It is more or less what I was trying to achieve, the assumption of course is they are just like the leather seats apposed to simple leather covers. The HSE seats have the arm rest which these don't have.
You just end up with basic seats with leather instead of fabric.

The bonafide top spec seats are all electric including air compressor pump up lumber support height adjustment etc.

[ozscott]

That lumbar pump is sweet ...I get good use out of it..seems a bigger pad than the manual version...passenger side does not have. Cheers

[Roverlord off road spares]

That lumbar pump is sweet ...I get good use out of it..seems a bigger pad than the manual version...passenger side does not have. Cheers
My passenger side has one. 2000 model

[ozscott]

Ok I will check...perhaps I'm thinking of directional controls...I have more adjustment on drivers side...mine are from an 02 HSE. CHEERS

[Hoppy545]

All the 2004 Disco Classics have leather seats but are manual.
The leather is not the same quality as HSE seats